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A lot of people with Autism don't drive cars, why is that?

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05 Aug 2024, 9:28 am

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self-driving cars can't come soon enough for me.


I'm not convinced they'll ever become viable on roads with human drivers.

If they can't operate safely around human drivers they shouldn't be allowed on the road at all.

I think the FSD (Full Self Driving) of Tesla is becoming extremely good. As good as a human driver. But I still don't trust those self-driving cars. The system requires you to intervene when things get wrong or when it disengages for whatever reason, like a driving instructor is intervening when the driver student is making a (dangerous) mistake.

It is very expensive and then I still think (without the intension to insult Tesla): I can better drive myself. I almost never make a mistake. And many other drivers are very rude. Speeding, tailgating, driving in the middle of the road, driving too slow (I experienced that on Polish highways when I traveled from Berlin to Gdańsk, and from Gdańsk to Warsaw), not seeing me, although I have priority, etc. Can a self-driving car handle that behaviour?

It's not even remotely there, they don't have the tech to do it. The cars need more sensors to be anywhere near self driving.

They can't even stop them from running over motorcyclists because the technology isn't smart enough to deal with vehicles that only take up a portion of the lane.

That being said my wife's adaptive cruise control can handle a lot of that as long as the speed is at least 12mph because it has actual sensors rather than just cameras.



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05 Aug 2024, 2:29 pm

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My wife recently got a "new" car. It's a Ford from about 10 years back and it includes a bunch of driver aids to make driving more comfortable, and somewhat safer.

I do wonder how many more autistic people will be able to drive with things like blind spot detection, and automatic emergency brakes. Not to mention adaptive cruise control can really improve the ability to focus on jsut braking if the need arise rather than having to worry about both brakes and the accelerator.


I'm a tech, but I hate cars with computers.
I find some driver safety enhancements positively dangerous.
ABS on a dirt road just screws with my judgement. Try rally driving with AWD and when you put the hammer down you no longer have steering.

I've always had good spatial processing. My first time in London I looked at a "you are here" and walked from Islington to Brixton, ending up exactly where I was supposed to be.
Tracking multiple moving objects isn't too hard (not so good gauging multiple momenta...Think swarm)

I have driven a variety of vehicles and construction equipment. I can fly a plane and sail a boat.
My parents had me drifting around car parks at 16, but I didn't sit my driving test until I was 28.



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05 Aug 2024, 2:50 pm

Carbonhalo wrote:
MatchboxVagabond wrote:
My wife recently got a "new" car. It's a Ford from about 10 years back and it includes a bunch of driver aids to make driving more comfortable, and somewhat safer.

I do wonder how many more autistic people will be able to drive with things like blind spot detection, and automatic emergency brakes. Not to mention adaptive cruise control can really improve the ability to focus on jsut braking if the need arise rather than having to worry about both brakes and the accelerator.


I'm a tech, but I hate cars with computers.
I find some driver safety enhancements positively dangerous.
ABS on a dirt road just screws with my judgement. Try rally driving with AWD and when you put the hammer down you no longer have steering.

I've always had good spatial processing. My first time in London I looked at a "you are here" and walked from Islington to Brixton, ending up exactly where I was supposed to be.
Tracking multiple moving objects isn't too hard (not so good gauging multiple momenta...Think swarm)

I have driven a variety of vehicles and construction equipment. I can fly a plane and sail a boat.
My parents had me drifting around car parks at 16, but I didn't sit my driving test until I was 28.

TBH, the tech has come a long way, but nothing is perfect. That being said, it's pretty clear that the tech has on the whole been working to reduce the risks involved with driving. ABS, ESC, airbags and rearview cameras in particular do save lives.

As far as the dirt road goes, I'm not really sure that the few people that are driving on that from time to time are worth the risks associated with everybody else having to go back to the bad old days when brakes locking up would require manual intervention at a time when there's likely other things to pay attention to than pumping the brakes.



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10 Aug 2024, 11:13 am

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10 Aug 2024, 12:54 pm

My mother is wonderful and generally very understanding, but when I was growing up she would sometimes get frustrated with me not understanding simple tasks right away. When my stepfather came into the picture, we thought he would be the calmer alternative to teach me to drive. We were very wrong. He was so easily frustrated with me, calling me "difficult to teach," that we never even tried driving lessons with him.

Furthermore, he painted a bleak picture of what it would be like if I did drive. Let's say teen me decides to get a cup of water from the dispenser on the fridge. It turns out my stepfather just announced he was going to get something from the fridge, and now I'm in his way, but I didn't hear him. This turns into scathing 15 minute lecture on the importance of paying attention and how this seemingly minor incident is "indicative of other things." If I get distracted while I'm driving, he tells me, I will get people killed. Repeat this on a daily basis and you have one of the reasons I still don't drive today.

I did have some private driving lessons with an instructor who said things like, "You gotta decide, are you gonna DIE at this intersection, or just your instructor." At the end, he said I needed more road time before I went out for my liscense, which never happened.



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11 Aug 2024, 12:19 pm

It's hard to afford a car if you don't have a job and your parents are poor.


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11 Aug 2024, 12:45 pm

Reduced ability to process a high volume of sensory input in real time, and driving, just don't seem like a good combination to me.


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