have you ever felt that you lose every argument?

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I listen alot....its info gathering process...

Oh Yes. I feel that arguments (as opposed to healthy debating) takes energies away from establishing consesus, and rendering all parties involved "spinning their wheels."

The folly of "cutting off the tree-branch your sitting on (in a very tall tree)" comes to mind. Too often, arguments rarely resolve whatever initial issues raised concerns in the first place.

My expreinces stem from misunderstandings with people who are allies, and that "sixth sense" to avoid people (not allies) who have "for lack of a better term" propensities to behave in vindictive manners.

I don't have arguments.

I think it's rare that an argument is conducted well. Mostly it's just 2 sides trying to outdo each other, and finding the truth has nothing to do with it. Personally, if I'm wrong then I want to know it, but the rubbish I get from people who argue with me doesn't usually contain much that's sensible or relevant. To my mind, winning or losing an argument is a tosser's game. The important thing is resolution, and hardly anybody wants to do that.

I've often felt a sense of frustration when I've argued, like I'm talking to a brick wall and it doesn't matter what I say, they'll just attack it regardless because they think they've got to win.

Engaging in no- productive communication can be a fruitless pain ...!