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JamesW
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19 Oct 2024, 1:56 pm

I have no right to tell any American (or anyone in the UK, either, for that matter) how to vote, or whether to vote at all.

All I can do is to ask people, wherever they are, to get their news from reputable sources.



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19 Oct 2024, 3:18 pm

If you don't vote, why bother calling yourself a "citizen"?
Voting is the easiest way to give something back to your country.

Having heard one US candidate say "You'll never have to vote again" I find chilling.



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20 Oct 2024, 12:13 am

kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
Sometimes I will say, things like, "So hard to decide whether to vote for the party that's satanic or the party that's cruel and corrupt".

What do you mean by "satanic" here? Hopefully you're not a believer in QAnon or other "Satanic" grand conspiracy claims? (See the separate thread QAnon, Blood Libel, and the Satanic Panic.)


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20 Oct 2024, 12:31 am

Who gets elected has a profound effect on the lives of millions of people. This is indisputable, regardless of the imperfections that all candidates will have. Some are awful and others are much less awful, and that's quite plain. Voting is our responsibility toward our fellow citizens. It's letting down the most vulnerable people who will most be affected by bad policies to not vote.



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22 Oct 2024, 2:23 am

bee33 wrote:
Who gets elected has a profound effect on the lives of millions of people. This is indisputable, regardless of the imperfections that all candidates will have. Some are awful and others are much less awful, and that's quite plain. Voting is our responsibility toward our fellow citizens. It's letting down the most vulnerable people who will most be affected by bad policies to not vote.


If you feel it's your responsibility, you can vote. You have that right. You do not have the right to my vote. What is it that my one vote will do that your one vote isn't doing?

Regardless, nobody is getting my vote in this or any other election. My friend's pestering didn't change that. Nothing you've written here changes that. After the last several years of witnessing politics on social media, that bridge has not only been burned, the smoldering wreckage has been atomized.