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23 Oct 2024, 3:57 pm

Recently my mom's passed away, she was on bi-polar meds, shed shake and her hair falling out. My brother and I up and down with nurse about her meds, at old age home. Since she's gone im at loss, and I think it was covid vaccine that finally did it. I saw some Pfizer scandals on YouTube and then JF Kennedy talking about vaccines causing autism. It all really scares me, but the worst is seeing in Africa how diseases affect lives without vaccines. So vaccines are important to health care. Does anyone feel there is truth to theory that vaccines cause autism?
I am now too scared to give my ADHD son his final vaccine.



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23 Oct 2024, 4:18 pm

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Does anyone feel there is truth to theory that vaccines cause autism?


No, this notion was started by a discredited fraudster named Andrew Wakefield. It's not a theory, it's utter rubbish.

https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/ ... k-debunked
https://www.healthline.com/health/vaccines-and-autism
https://time.com/5175704/andrew-wakefie ... ne-autism/


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24 Oct 2024, 12:47 am

Ursula wrote:
Since she's gone im at loss, and I think it was covid vaccine that finally did it. I saw some Pfizer scandals on YouTube and then JF Kennedy talking about vaccines causing autism.


It's at times of grief and stress that we are most vulnerable to misinformation. Please don't get your news from YouTube, or anywhere else where bad actors get the same amplification as legitimate sources.

I'm really sorry about your mom. :(



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24 Oct 2024, 7:22 am

It was a while back, my mom's was most difficult patient at old age home, kicking the kitchen door, arguing with other ladies. It worries me as I sometimes think I see her ghost and then I wonder if my brain fog has cleared or my alteimers is really taking affect. I'm recently diagnosed as celiac, does anyone else have special diet they are on? I'm also on heavy vitamin dosage for arthritis with manganese, magnesium, calcium, phosphorus zinc and various other electrolytes. I've heard that with autism we have undeveloped arm and leg muscles with above deficiencies caused by pesticides and combining of wheat grains. Any views on food industry?



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25 Oct 2024, 7:05 pm

The "vaccines cause autism" theory is complete nonsense. Vaccines save lives. Diseases like smallpox and polio were once really bad until people got vaccinated for them. But now because of people thinking vaccines are dangerous and cause autism, there are more outbreaks of things like measles and mumps. Those are nasty illnesses, I would never want to get them, even if I didn't suffer from complications like pneumonia or meningitis. The chest cold/flu I had for the past two weeks was bad enough. :(

Of course, as a kid I would have loved to have never needed shots. I was really terrified of shots. But I was young and stupid back then. In fact, my mother and I are getting our flu shots next week. We've been getting them each year for many years, now.



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27 Oct 2024, 3:16 pm

Of course, some people aren't able to get vaccinated because they have immunity disorders or something like that. But anyone who can vaccinated should because it increases "herd immunity", where if most healthy people are vaccinated than the few who aren't will be less likely to catch the viruses anyway.



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27 Oct 2024, 4:02 pm

No truth. Numerous peer-reviewed studies have not found any links.


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30 Oct 2024, 7:47 pm

In South Africa we has issues with ineffective measles vaccines, it resulted in quite few infant deaths of which affected African, coloured and white children.
There were various campaigns by government re revaccinate but I'd become disillusioned, but I decided to have the campaign shots done.
It was tricky at creche as kids sick every two weeks with something Nd I think it's just potty training at that age. At first clinic just gave allergex and said kids get nappy rash but turned out area was alerted to outbreak of foot and mouth disease and I ended up taking them out creche to avoid use of meds so often for flu etc. Also avoiding ear infections.

Pfizer scares over tested vaccines vs deployed vaccines are probably lesson learnt that companies should take note of to keep people from being scared off in future of vaccines.



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31 Oct 2024, 12:10 am

The simple answer is there is no simple answer. Are vaccines helpful or are they actually doing more harm than good? Do vaccines cause autism? We are taught by the NT world that vaccines are purely helpful and it is our absolute duty as a human to fall in line for each and every vaccine that 'they' insist is necessary to protect all humanity. The conspiracy theorist world, however, insists that vaccines are toxic death shots forced upon an unsuspecting public for nefarious purposes. The truth, as always, seems to fall somewhere in between the extremes. As for the covid shots, the mrna technology they utilize was completely untested in humans before the pandemic, thus everyone receiving them were experiment subjects rather than patients.

The problem isn't that vaccines themselves are considered as harmful or dangerous, it is that many of the vaccines that are being manufactured contain ingredients that are classified as extremely toxic-such as thimerosal. The reason for many of these ingredients inclusion is up for debate. The basic reason appears to be to maximize profit margins for the vaccine manufacturers. The makers will cite research (that they financed) which shows that the levels of mercury in each shot is too low to cause significant damage. While a true statement, it obscures us from the truth.

Say, for example, the vaccine shot has 1 unit of toxic ingredient in it. Science says the human body can handle up to 10 units of the said toxic ingredient safely, so the vaccine manufacturers immediately say the shot is safe. If that was the only shot given then they everything would probably be okay. They don't, however, and therein is where the problem arises. They don't give just 1 vaccine shot anymore, they give dozens over a relatively short period of time. Take the average child born today. How many vaccine shots are they given and when? They start at birth and continue on at a rapid rate for our first 48 months of life. If the safe level is 10 units..... You do the math. Eventually the cumulative buildup has the potential to cause problems in the brain development once it surpasses safe levels.

This is why there is an explosion of severe autism wherever vaccine makers are indemnified from liability.
The sad truth is vaccine makers KNOW this truth but don't care. There have been leaked emails in the past that prove this sad truth...Greed



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31 Oct 2024, 6:26 am

Thimeresol was removed years back on precautionary principle.

RF K knows both what he talks is falsehood and knows that repeating falsehoods gets a good mob following and he probably enjoys getting the feeling of power. He probably already has children's blood on his hands and tounge from children who died from preventable dresses, not necessarily because Their parents withheld vaccines, it is also possible that they had a vaccine but their body didn't make a strong response, and an unvaccinated child from parents who were taken in spread an illness like measles around the school or kindergarten and infected a child who hadn't been able to make the adaptive response

You tube enables anyone with anaccount to spread just about anything, regardless of whether it is true or not, creating an exhausting game of catch up.



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31 Oct 2024, 6:55 am

ShwaggyD wrote:
This is why there is an explosion of severe autism wherever vaccine makers are indemnified from liability

First Large Study of “Profound” Autism Finds Rising Problem With Disparate Impacts - Rutgers University
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A new study by the Centers for Disease Control of children with profound autism, the most severe form of the condition, found that cases are increasing, and those most likely to be diagnosed are poor, female and non-white.

Walter Zahorodny, director of the New Jersey Autism Study at the Rutgers New Jersey Medical School, who helped compile the data and compute the results, discusses the more than 16 years of patient data and the importance of findings showing that a quarter of children with autism are diagnosed with profound autism.

What is profound autism?
It is the most severe form of the disease, defined for the study as limiting IQ to 50 or rendering children entirely or mostly non-verbal.

Is the incidence of profound autism rising?
Yes. Over the 16-year period we studied, the rate of profound autism doubled to 4.6 cases per 1,000 eight-year-olds. That said, all cases of autism doubled over that same time, so profound autism doesn’t seem to be growing more common than autism as a whole.

Why are both profound and lesser severe forms of autism rising so quickly, and why do some groups face more risk than others?
We don’t know. We're interpreting what we can’t observe or measure directly. The complexity of the brain is great, and the sophistication of our instruments and tests is comparatively basic. We're doing the best we can, but it's not the endpoint for the diagnosis of autism.

We’ll improve as we learn more about the brain, especially the development of social and linguistic ability. There are probably multiple reasons for autism, and they'll probably also be multiple subtypes of autism.

The first step to distinguishing them would be to have some reliable biometric or chemical assay for autism or electrophysiologic reference for autism and then to separate other possible subtypes from that. Once you identify what drives different subtypes, you might be able to develop treatments that disrupt those drivers.

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31 Oct 2024, 11:01 am

rowan_nichol wrote:
Thimeresol was removed years back on precautionary principle.

RF K knows both what he talks is falsehood and knows that repeating falsehoods gets a good mob following and he probably enjoys getting the feeling of power. He probably already has children's blood on his hands and tounge from children who died from preventable dresses, not necessarily because Their parents withheld vaccines, it is also possible that they had a vaccine but their body didn't make a strong response, and an unvaccinated child from parents who were taken in spread an illness like measles around the school or kindergarten and infected a child who hadn't been able to make the adaptive response

You tube enables anyone with anaccount to spread just about anything, regardless of whether it is true or not, creating an exhausting game of catch up.



Actually thimerosal has not been completely removed from all vaccines, only reduced in usage.

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Thimerosal as a Preservative

Thimerosal is a mercury-containing organic compound (an organomercurial). Since the 1930s, it has been widely used as a preservative in a number of biological and drug products, including many vaccines, to help prevent potentially life threatening contamination with harmful microbes. The documented antimicrobial properties of thimerosal contribute to the safe use of vaccines in multi-dose vials, and the ability to package certain vaccines, such as those for seasonal and pandemic influenza, in multi-dose vials helps facilitate immunization campaigns in the United States and globally that save lives. However, the use of thimerosal as a preservative in U.S. FDA-licensed vaccines has significantly declined due to reformulation and development of new vaccines presented in single-dose containers.

Thimerosal, which is approximately 50% mercury by weight, has been one of the most widely used preservatives in vaccines. It is metabolized or degraded to ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. Ethylmercury is an organomercurial that should be distinguished from methylmercury, a related substance that has been the focus of considerable study. Methylmercury is the type of mercury found in certain kinds of fish. At high exposure levels methylmercury can be toxic to people. In the United States, federal guidelines keep as much methylmercury as possible out of the environment and food, but over a lifetime, everyone is exposed to some methylmercury.

At concentrations found in vaccines, thimerosal meets the requirements for a preservative as set forth by the United States Pharmacopeia; that is, it kills the specified challenge organisms and is able to prevent the growth of the challenge fungi (U.S. Pharmacopeia 2004). Thimerosal in concentrations of 0.001% (1 part in 100,000) to 0.01% (1 part in 10,000) has been shown to be effective in clearing a broad spectrum of pathogens. A vaccine containing 0.01% thimerosal as a preservative contains 50 micrograms of thimerosal per 0.5 mL dose or approximately 25 micrograms of mercury per 0.5 mL dose. For comparison, this is roughly the same amount of elemental mercury contained in a 3 ounce can of tuna fish.

Prior to introduction of thimerosal in the 1930's, data were available in several animal species and humans providing evidence for its safety and effectiveness as a preservative (Powell and Jamieson 1931). Since then, thimerosal has been the subject of numerous studies (see Bibliography- Notable Studies and Assessments Supporting the Safe Use of Thimerosal in Vaccines) and has a long record of safe and effective use preventing bacterial and fungal contamination of vaccines, with no ill effects established other than minor local reactions at the site of injection.

While the use of mercury-containing preservatives has declined in recent years due to the development of new products formulated into single-dose presentations that do not require preservatives, thimerosal has been used in some immune globulin preparations, anti-venins, skin test antigens, and ophthalmic and nasal products, in addition to some vaccines. Under the FDA Modernization Act of 1997, the FDA compiled a list of regulated products containing mercury, including those with thimerosal (Federal Register 1999). It is important to note that this list was compiled in 1999; some products listed are no longer manufactured and many products have been reformulated without thimerosal.



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31 Oct 2024, 12:19 pm

Also, thimerosal is not the only added ingredient in vaccines that are controversial as there is also aluminum salts used as an adjuvant.

High Aluminum Found in Autism Brain Tissue

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Scientists have been aware of aluminum’s neurotoxicity for decades. Although aluminum’s apologists have tried to shroud the metal’s risks in manufactured controversy, a growing number of reports by researchers in the United Kingdom, France, Canada, Israel, the U.S. and elsewhere has furnished substantive evidence linking aluminum to neuropathology, including the epidemics of Alzheimer’s disease (AD) and autism spectrum disorder (ASD).

Aluminum levels were particularly high in the male brains, including in a 15-year-old boy with ASD who had the study’s single highest brain aluminum measurement.
Dr. Christopher Exley—one of the world’s leading experts on aluminum toxicity—has shown that chronic intoxication with myriad forms of this “ubiquitous and omnipresent metal” is exacting a high price on human health. Dr. Exley and other aluminum experts such as molecular biologist Dr. Lucija Tomljenovic have confirmed that aluminum readily and actively traverses the blood-brain barrier to selectively accumulate in brain tissues, where it induces unwelcome changes in brain biochemistry. As Dr. Exley has noted, “There are no ‘normal’ levels of brain aluminum,” meaning that “its presence in brain tissue, at any level, could be construed as abnormal” [emphasis added].

Documenting Aluminum in the ASD Brain
In light of the fact that even minute amounts of aluminum can have adverse neurological consequences, Dr. Exley’s newest paper—which reports on the first-ever study of aluminum in ASD brain tissue—is groundbreaking. Published in the Journal of Trace Elements in Medicine and Biology, the paper documents some of the highest values for aluminum in human brain tissue ever recorded. Using a two-pronged study design (see box), the researchers measured and characterized aluminum deposits in brain tissues from five to ten ASD donors, most of whom died in their teens or twenties.


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calculations show that the levels of aluminum suggested by the World Health Organization place infants at risk of acute, repeated, and possibly chronic exposures of toxic levels of aluminum in modern vaccine schedules.
What the Science Says on Aluminum
Aluminum is neurotoxic. Aluminum exposure has been associated with disorders including Alzheimer’s and autism. This metal is found in foods we eat, the water we drink, products we use on our bodies, and it is used as an adjuvant in vaccines to enhance immunogenicity. Neurotoxic effects of aluminum are controversial however, a study of human brain tissue from donors with autism showed consistently high levels of aluminum content present in microglia like cells and cells in the meninges, vasculature, and grey and white matter. While regulatory agencies determine how much aluminum is needed to enhance antigenicity and effectiveness of vaccines, they do not take into account safety considerations. In fact, no known published studies have determined levels of aluminum in vaccines based on safety studies.

A new report titled “Reconsideration of the immunotherapeutic pediatric safe dose levels of aluminum” states “When aluminum doses are estimated from Federal Regulatory Code given body weight, exposure from the current vaccine schedule are found to exceed our estimate of a weight corrected Pediatric Dose Limit. Our calculations show that the levels of aluminum suggested by the World Health Organization place infants at risk of acute, repeated, and possibly chronic exposures of toxic levels of aluminum in modern vaccine schedules.”

There is no safe level of mercury exposure.
What the Science Says on Mercury
According to the World Health Organization (WHO), mercury is considered to be among the top ten chemicals of major public health concern. It is known to impact the brain, heart, lungs, gastrointestinal tract, kidneys, and immune system. There is no safe level of mercury exposure.

Dental Amalgams

Dental amalgams have been used for the past 150 years by the dental industry to fill cavities. Dental amalgams contain mercury, a known neurotoxin dangerous to humans even in trace amounts. Mercury vapor leaks from dental amalgams and accumulates in various body tissues or organs. Therefore, the fetus of a mother with dental amalgams will be exposed to mercury for the entire duration of the pregnancy. Mercury is known to cross the placenta, and directly impact the fetus, where it can interfere with the development of the fetus’ brain and central nervous system. The child may continue to be exposed after birth through the mother’s breast milk. One study found 6 or more dental amalgams in the mother raises the risk of having a child with autism 3.2-fold. Furthermore, the severity of autistic behaviors increases with the number of a mother’s dental amalgams.

Other sources of mercury include some over the counter medications, personal care products, and certain fishes such as tuna. In addition, some vaccines still contain mercury.

Mercury in thimerosal has been linked to tics, speech delay and language delay in children (Thompson et al. 2007 NEJM, Barile et al. 2013 J Pediatr Psychol, Verstraeten et al. 2003 Pediatrics, Andrews et al. 2004 Pediatrics) and many published studies also show a relationship with autism and ASD (Geier et al. 2013 Translational Neurodegeneration 2:25, among others).

The CDC recommends pregnant women receive the flu shot, however, if the shot comes from a multi-dose vial, it also contains mercury from the preservative thimerosal. Multi-dose vials are often provided to clinics and pharmacies in lower socio-economic areas. It is estimated that during the 2017-2018 flu season, 20-30 million of the influenza vaccines distributed will contain thimerosal. Thimerosal-containing vaccines (TCV’s) may expose pregnant women to 25 micrograms of mercury. With no blood-brain barrier, the fetus is also exposed as the mercury accumulates in the placenta and cord blood. Furthermore, as indicated in the vaccine manufacturer’s product inserts, no safety or efficacy studies have been conducted on pregnant women or their infants.