Anyone with an IQ over 130 is automatically neurodivergent ?

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I can see the argument that being exceptionally high or low in IQ might alter one's experience and perception of the world to the point that they'd inherently be considered neurologically different from average.

I dropped out of high school so I never had a traditional academic interest. Before I dropped out I took what I was told was an IQ test. It was multiple choice. I decided to answer the questions randomly. I was told that I had an IQ of 12. I don't think that they told everyone their result. I imagine they were curious as to why I scored so low. I suspect it was not even a valid IQ test. However, I was not concerned about a test that I did not want to take for the benefit of others so I tried using it for my own experiment. I had anticipated that randomness would have resulted in a slightly higher score, however, I also once lost 35 straight rolls of the dice playing Risk.

My IQ has been tested as an adult at 145, 155, and 173. However, I am suspicious of the accuracy of attempting to resolve a fractional percentage of such a diverse composite measurement.

I see this as a heritable characteristic similar to and perhaps overlapping with Aspergers (especially when considering how the four boys Hans Asperger evaluated turned out). However, I see character qualities of honesty, reliability, and kindness to be much more important.

In my experience whether a result of a neurology that is faster, more sensitive, or more complex, having to sort through what might be considered an avalanche of sensory and cognitive input can provide significant developmental and functioning challenges. While different than physical challenges of being too short or too tall, there can be similar difficulties in that being different is not always accepted.

Interesting word choice. I've often said that Asperger's is a mixed percentage of genetics and environment, with the environment being influenced by parenting and adding up to 100% genetic influence as a result.

I turned down Mensa membership almost 50 years ago when I was 16. I thought it lacked diversity, or as I put it as a 16 year old, "It's a lousy place to meet girls."

Regarding this thread's topic, I found this online: "Exploring High Intelligence as Neurodivergence"



^{I'm not sure what to make of that...}

I met my bride at a Mensa party.

Yes...it took more than 10 years...and I blew it and only happenstance undid my mistake.

In the words of someone who was estimated to be exceptionally intelligent,using the PAIQ( Primary Assessment of Intelligence and Quantitative skills).



I have been accepted most of all by 2 very different groups of people . Firstly other members of a forum for those with schizophrenia and other psychotic illnesses. I've been a member there since c1998. Secondly the FB high IQ community,that I started getting involved with in March 2020. Prior to that I'd amassed 56 or so 'friends' since May 2009. Now I have approximately x6.38 more 'friends'. The vast majority being those from the high IQ community who have sent me friendship requests.

I was expecting to be told,sooner rather than later, that I wasn't good enough to be be part of that community. In fact the opposite is true. Due to 'bullying related trauma' I struggle when it comes to self confidence and self worth. I struggle with feeling that I'm too inferior to be part of the community. I stack up reasonably well however against a group of people much better educated and on average much younger than I am.

Unfortunately I have moderately severe EF deficits, especially re organising and planning . Something that's been true from as far back as I can remember. It's only now having mentioned my symptoms to intellectual high fliers, some of whom have ADHD, that it's been suggested that I may well have ADHD -inattentive type. Far too late,if true, to make much of a difference. It does explain a lot though.

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Yes, see, these kinds of numbers are unreliable. This is also the region my husband is in. I don't think a person can develop a test to accurately measure people with very different minds. It would be like developing a test to measure grass if you live on the sea and you've never seen or walked on grass. Or measuring outer space with no concept of it or how our universe is supposed to be oriented. Mistakes will be made. So you, Timf could say, "My IQ is in the highly gifted range" and that's really the best you can do.

If a person is truly getting a score of 12, they cannot functionally communicate, so whoever is helping them communicate would have to say for them, "This person is not testable because they cannot communicate accurately." I doubt that would be put in those terms. You often hear a person say so and so has the mind of a child which is BS because no one can walk about in another person's mind.

Side note: There is a Star Trek OS episode where Kirk casually mentions that his IQ is something like 175, as if it's no big deal.

I'm just a dumb f*** who fluked his way into the 142- 152 range, compared to the rest of you on this thread .

That's my personal perception of myself. Most of my ideas are at most basic iterations of what other people were doing. I just have a massive library of other people's ideas to fill in the blanks from.

Part of it is that if you're gifted enough, the tests are going to seem trivial. Part of it is that I really don't think those tests are appropriate when applied to ND folks as it's just not normed for us.

It shouldn't be a big deal, it's just a test result. Everyone else is talking about their psychological test results left and right, and this test is no different. It shouldn't be a taboo. For me personally - the IQ test was the only psychological test I ever took that showed anything meaningful.