Are all the doctors really cowards

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Idk I am just mad that I am not hearing more doctors speak out against abortion bans or stories of any that have risked the prison time to help patients. Idk maybe most doctors aren't like the one from Pans Labrinth who died for what was right. Not saying doctors shoud die over it, but I just wished to see more of them speaking out about abotion bans and providing nessisary care even if they might have to go to trial over it.

LIke there is not a single doctor that would help a patient regardless? They littearlly all are like I'd rather let patients die than be arrested, well like so what is the point of being a doctor if you wont treat patients.


I get that is a risk in some states but I am just a bit dissapointed I am not hearing more outcry from doctors, like what so they are ok with patients dying and none of them are resisting in those states? Like WTF? Like real people are dying and doctors juust like standing back...'state made me do it' like idk maybe save the patient and worry about court later. LIke Idk I thought doctors had a code or something to do no harm and help people so idk its just disappointing.

Perhaps those doctors who are willing to risk their lives to save patients have all gone to Gaza?

Be that as it may, some doctors here in the U.S.A. are organizing to speak out against restrictive abortion laws. See, for example:

- Doctors Emerge as Political Force in Battle Over Abortion Laws in Ohio and Elsewhere by Cassandra Jaramillo, Pro Publica, July 31, 2023: "Ohio is among at least five states where physicians have mobilized to protect reproductive rights. Here’s what doctors in the state are doing to protect abortion. "
- Doctors are boycotting Texas conferences over abortion restrictions by Ronnie Cohen, KFF Health News, Texas Tribune, Oct. 3, 2024: "A breast cancer surgeon has created a California alternative to a major Texas event, while other medical conferences have left Louisiana and Arizona."

It seems likely that any physicians speaking out in favor of women's rights -- especially their right to reproductive freedom -- would suffer the loss of their licenses (at the very least) under a Trump/Vance regime.

They may all be waiting until after the next president is sworn in.  One way means they can act and speak out freely, the other way means joining some sort of pro-choice underground movement.

Most doctors want to help people but I don't expect my doctor to risk there own wellbeing for my benefit

There's also the whole bit that if they do stick their neck out and wind up in prison or lose their license, then what? Rather than the relatively small number of people that want abortions, the majority that may or may not want abortions have an even harder time than normal of getting treatment.

Sad to say, I agree. Doctors are only human and I don't expect them to risk their lives for me. Would I risk my life for them? Probably not. I just wish they'd be more honest about how humanly self-interested they are, but I suppose if they were that honest, they'd lose market share to the ones who pretended to be any better, and go out of business.

Please do not get me started on Doctors practicing Allopathic medicine. am just frustrated with my personal experience
with extensive circumstances with allopathic mecical practioners ...Worked in the field for a number of years ..
Saw things that were put in medical records for elderly patients . That were just contradictory Entries . And as much as I would like to name those institutions , (business) . Would fear issues even after all these years.
Thought at least one persons records had been altered to favour their passing into the next life. By the Doctor .
Apparently without the patients initial wishes during the intake process ever being considered . Did not understand this
Had been on both sides of the bedpan , so to speak . Due to so really trajic stuff . And made it through a impossible recovery . And could still mask for longer periods of time. And was tough to shock me due to prior experiences .
This behaviour was even happening at most old age homes I did rotations at . It made less and less sense . I would not want my loved ones treated like that . Gave up and left that feild of work . Yes , am thinking many could be considered much worse than cowards . Sure wish that I had much better experiences, but think my Aspie self could not accept things as they were . Suggested Advise:Always got to take someone with you ,buy them lunch whatever? whenever dealing with Medical treatment type of Doctors . In my family including in Laws ,the only Doctor was 93 yrs old and passed in a older age home. While being abused , from the images that appeared on my secret nanny cam in the room he was in. But he treated everyone equitably. And helped widows and single parents for free often., regardless .But he started practice in the late 1930s, before I could act legally someone else that was close ,passed under mysterious circumstances without resolution. Brain was toast ....Had to give up due to stress . Masking skills under pressure were gone.
(((Opposite of the Coin, whom else could you see for broken bones .)))

What's dishonest about any of this? People wouldn't use a doctor that would break the law and the terms of their license condition. That's the literal reason why people go to doctors rather some rando in a back alley.

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Well, my experience of doctors in the UK is that they insinuate I'm a hypochondriac instead of admitting that they're fobbing me off with nothing because of lack of funds. It's more a sin of omission that one of telling downright lies. A hospital consultant wrote to them outlining the adjustments they could make for my ASD, but they adjusted nothing, and simply declared out of the blue that there was nothing they could do for me but offer sedatives and antidepressants. Then there was the one who mysteriously shifted the agenda from its actual purpose (examining a lump in my neck) to smoking cessation. I later heard that a doctor who talks a patient into accepting NHS nicotine gum gets a kickback. It's rather different in the USA where they get money in proportion to the treatment they give, so they over-treat and over-prescribe. Both sides of the pond, it's a for-profit business. Doctors are often rather more self-interested than they care to admit, much like the rest of the human race. That's not to say they never do any good.

Sorry, I've no idea how that relates to what I said.

I posted a thread about this:

https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=422961

It's more about civil disobedience in general, not necessarily about abortion.

But yes, I'm worried that too many people will cut and run (moving to other states or countries), or obey the laws out of fear, rather than fight for what's right.

I've certainly noticed some instances of outright medical neglect due to ageism in the past decade. Especially during the Covid years.

I've also been concerned for years about some countries allowing doctors and hospitals to receive kickbacks - cash payments for every prescription made) from drug companies. (The USA, New Zealand, Australia). The most blatant example was in relation to statins. For some people, statins are dangerous. People reporting and seeking help for bad reactions were ignored and dismissed. There were alternative drug options to statins which also reduced high cholesterol - like Ezetrol - but doctors did not disclose this to the patients who needed them. This appalling practice suggests commercial self-interest and greed rather than cowardice.

Interesting Coincidence: perhaps consider you are one of the Doctors ,whom stayed,after abortion is banned .
And you are making much money as such a Doctor that stayed behind . So fewer Doctor = more money for you .
Cause there are few now....business is good .. But your daughter gets knocked up ..Now, you have enough money to get a passport , and send her to a different country for " her abortion" and back .. Cause you control info. being a Doctor . hence : ( No record of a abortion on US soil .). For your daughter, , Mr Doctor ,that stayed behind .
Now if you were in that position as a doc , wouldn't you help your own daughter ? Doctors are NOT dummies .

Ah, figured it out. I'd been more mindful of the thread title than the original post, so wasn't really focussed on abortion so much as general cowardice in doctors. Hence the confusion. It was a bit of a weird day all round for me really.

So, if you take this this title and the OP ,full circle ...Do you call "Doctors without borders" group cowards ?
Oddly am not as sure as I would like to be , about the long range intentions of that group ? Lots of countries are discouraged with the USA and its influences around the world . ? but perhaps they are merely the foot in the door , for US policy ?.....These seem to be times , of which it might be safer to question motives , behind things ?
One wonders if a Doc does the Docs without borders thing, fo they get their student Loans absolved ?
Uh oh..? think I fell into a rabbit hole ...? of possibilities ? ... .... ....