Trump team fully embraces RFK Jr.'s vaccine skepticism

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ShwaggyD
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Yesterday, 3:16 pm

QuantumChemist wrote:
Thiomersal is used in vaccines as an anti-bacterial/anti-microbrial ingredient. Bacteria growth often spoil unprotected vaccines, especially when they are not refrigerated properly. Without this ingredient, the vaccines would have a much shorter usable shelf life, even if they are properly stored in a cold environment. Since vaccines cost money to make, it would cost a lot more to be constantly producing vaccines without the preservative than to add it in to batches.

There is another piece to this. It will be critical to be delivered on time during cold transport, as there is less leeway on usable time. If you do not stabilize the vaccine, there will likely be shortages in supply to places further out from the production plant. That is even true here in the U.S.A., whether we realize it or not.



Thank you for proving my point, thimerosal is used because it is cheaper for the makers. Profits and $$$ over safety and health. According to this reasoning I should be more concerned about their profits of than my own safety and health. I should never demand transparency and accountability from from the drug companies and healthcare system as a whole I guess. I should blindly believe that these entities only have altruistic beliefs and humanities best interest as their guide, even when reality constantly shows this to not be true.

I notice everyone keeps avoiding the potential risks from usage of aluminum salts as an adjuvant. Why?



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Yesterday, 11:47 pm

ShwaggyD wrote:
QuantumChemist wrote:
Thiomersal is used in vaccines as an anti-bacterial/anti-microbrial ingredient. Bacteria growth often spoil unprotected vaccines, especially when they are not refrigerated properly. Without this ingredient, the vaccines would have a much shorter usable shelf life, even if they are properly stored in a cold environment. Since vaccines cost money to make, it would cost a lot more to be constantly producing vaccines without the preservative than to add it in to batches.

There is another piece to this. It will be critical to be delivered on time during cold transport, as there is less leeway on usable time. If you do not stabilize the vaccine, there will likely be shortages in supply to places further out from the production plant. That is even true here in the U.S.A., whether we realize it or not.



Thank you for proving my point, thimerosal is used because it is cheaper for the makers. Profits and $$$ over safety and health. According to this reasoning I should be more concerned about their profits of than my own safety and health. I should never demand transparency and accountability from from the drug companies and healthcare system as a whole I guess. I should blindly believe that these entities only have altruistic beliefs and humanities best interest as their guide, even when reality constantly shows this to not be true.

I notice everyone keeps avoiding the potential risks from usage of aluminum salts as an adjuvant. Why?


The makers of vaccines are running a business to make money. They are not in it to lose money. If they made vaccines that spoiled before they could sell them, they would lose money. Longer shelf life means a higher chance that it will get sold while it is still useful. Drug companies employ chemists to make their drugs/vaccines so it goes full circle. This funds advances in science, so not all things are bad.

I am not avoiding discussing aluminum salts. They can have potentially toxic issues in developing individuals. Aluminum absorption has been studied as a possible cause for neurological degradations in older individuals. The use of aluminum cooking ware (pots, pans, utensils and covering sheets) are sources of human consumption. As one cooks with aluminum, acids in foods can slowly react with the metal and form compounds that go into the food. Some foods are so acidic (or basic) that they will dissolve aluminum foil covering them over time and form aluminum salts in the process. I rarely use aluminum in my cooking ware due to these issues. Vaccines have very little aluminum salts in them compared to potential food sources cooked in aluminum.

If you are old enough, there was an old 1980s episode of Mr. Wizard’ World that was on aluminum chemistry. He showed why one should never use oven cleaner (strong base) on aluminum foil. It reacts in an exothermic reaction that gets very hot, hot enough to start a fire. It starts out slowly because aluminum has a protective oxide covering it that has to be overcome before the virgin metal can be reacted with. The reason why it is not shown much anymore is that people have used that knowledge to make things that they should not make. I will leave it at that.