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Mona Pereth
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08 Nov 2024, 1:45 am

Richard Dawkins Claims Eugenics Works. He's Wrong by Rebecca Watson (Skepchick), Apr 12, 2024:



Not directly about autism per se, but relevant to many autistic rights activists' objections to the autism research establishment's emphasis on genetics research, fearing that it will be used for eugenicist purposes.


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08 Nov 2024, 6:26 am

Mona Pereth wrote:
Richard Dawkins Claims Eugenics Works. He's Wrong by Rebecca Watson (Skepchick), Apr 12, 2024:



Not directly about autism per se, but relevant to many autistic rights activists' objections to the autism research establishment's emphasis on genetics research, fearing that it will be used for eugenicist purposes.


My brother finds Dawkins offensive. I have some of Dawkins' books. I barely remember his opinions on Eugenics, it has been such a long time since I've read him. I think he is opposed to it actually. He associates it with the barbarism of Nazi Germany that actually implemented eugenics policies based upon crude pseudoscience and racism. His own view of eugenics is that it would need to be married to science and be based upon voluntary acceptance by the population. E.g., people would opt to voluntarily consult with scientists to create test tube designer babies. They would do this out of self-interest. The Government would not be involved other than to regulate the laboratories to prevent abuse or negligence. The parents would themselves be free to do as they please, natural birthing or not.

I avoid Dawkins because he is such an outspoken atheist. I don't find that element particularly helpful at this stage in my life.


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08 Nov 2024, 7:35 am

I suppose it depends what is meant by eugenics.

Words get thrown around all the time and they provoke a knee jerk reaction

Interventions to prevent disease and disability are ok and happen today but they are not really labelled eugenics.

Surgery in the womb, giving pregnant mothers vitamins or minerals to prevent Down syndrome. If we factor in that brain development is a work in progress at birth maybe sending kids to school is a form of eugenics?

Nearly everyone in society agrees that these things are good and ok

Then we have creating kids to be blond and blue eyed which is rather warped idea

I don’t really know what Dawkins is proposing but if he’s suggesting growing kids in labs then that would be rather insane

I suppose the key question between right and wrong is who are you helping

If the child to become a better version of themselves and fulfill their potential then that’s probably ok

If trying to achieve a warped agenda I.e remove ginger hair or make strong males to build an army then obviously crossing the moral line


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