Trump team fully embraces RFK Jr.'s vaccine skepticism
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While my dad had never been diagnosed in life, I have no doubt he had been on the spectrum. As he had been born in 1923 in rural eastern Washington - a time and place only a decade or two removed from the old west - he hadn't been vaccinated for anything. No, he just got ungodly sick from an assortment of childhood ailments that vaccines today easily take care of. And yet, as I already stated, I believe he was still autistic.
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"He’s a great guy. I’ve known him a long time. And all he wants to do — it’s very simple — he wants to make people healthy," Trump told NBC News on Friday.
Misinformation about vaccines has not been a focal point of Trump's 2024 campaign, but recently, Kennedy's influence — and the large role he could play in a Trump administration — have come to the forefront.
During an event with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson and Kennedy in Arizona Thursday night, Trump said that Kennedy wants to "look" at pesticides and vaccines in a potential Trump administration — and he was more than happy to give him carte blanche.
"He can do anything he wants," Trump said.
“He really wants to with the pesticides and the, you know, all the different things. I said, he can do it," Trump told Carlson. "He can do anything he wants. He wants to look at the vaccines. He wants —everything. I think it’s great. I think it’s great."
He also said Kennedy was “going to work on health and women’s health.”
Vice President Kamala Harris took aim at Trump's embrace of Kennedy and indications that Kennedy's views on health policy could be empowered in a second Trump term, telling reporters on Friday that he is “the exact last person in America who should be setting healthcare policy for America’s families and children.”
Harris referred to Kennedy as “someone who has routinely promoted junk science and crazy conspiracy theories" and highlighted his past support for a national abortion ban.
During an interview with popular podcast host Joe Rogan that was released Thursday morning, Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance expressed skepticism about the Covid vaccine, saying, he'd been "red-pilled," a term nabbed from "The Matrix" and used by some to explain that they've become aware of conspiracies throughout society.
“I took the vax, and you know, I haven’t been boosted or anything, but the moment where I really started to get red-pilled on the whole vax thing was the sickest that I have been in the last 15 years by far was when I took the vaccine," Vance said.
"I’ve had Covid at this point five times. I was in bed for two days, my heart was racing, I was like, the fact that we’re not even allowed to talk about that. Even, you know — no like, serious injury, but even the fact that we’re not even allowed to talk about the fact that I was as sick as I’ve ever been for two days and the worst Covid experience I had was like a sinus infection, I’m not really willing to trade that," the senator added.
It’s unclear when Vance was vaccinated and whether it was before he had a Covid infection. His spokesperson did not return a request for clarification.
And earlier this week, Kennedy told attendees at an event that Trump had promised him "control" of public health agencies like the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Agriculture if the former president is elected.
It was a claim that Howard Lutnick, the co-chair of the Trump-Vance transition team, did not deny when asked by CNN Wednesday whether Kennedy was right to say he would lead public health agencies in a potential Trump administration. Lutnick also embraced Kennedy's vaccine skepticism.
"I spent two-and-a-half hours this week with Bobby Kennedy Jr. and it was the most extraordinary thing," Lutnick told CNN. "I said, 'So, tell me. How's it going to go?' And he said, 'Why don't you just listen to me explain things.'"
Lutnick went on to discuss debunked conspiracy theories linking vaccines to autism and blaming the National Institutes of Health for taking money from pharmaceutical companies in exchange for pushing vaccines on babies.
Kennedy has linked autism to vaccines for years, though multiple reputable studies over the last few decades have shown that vaccines are not linked with autism and that not vaccinating children can cause harm.
In a statement to NBC News on Thursday, Trump campaign spokesperson Karoline Leavitt emphasized that there still are “no formal decisions” about positions in a potential administration, but that Trump “has said he will work alongside passionate voices like RFK Jr. to make America healthy again by providing families with safe food and ending the chronic disease epidemic plaguing our children,” referring to Type 2 diabetes.
“President Trump will also establish a special presidential commission of independent minds and will charge them with investigating what is causing the decades-long increase in chronic illnesses,” she added.
“The only thing President Trump and his campaign team are focused on is winning on November 5th," Trump campaign senior adviser Jason Miller said in a statement Friday. "Everything after that is after that, and President Trump has made clear that Bobby Kennedy will play an important role.”
That's why I sold GSK. It gets most of its revenue from vaccines. That co. just can't catch a break.
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While my dad had never been diagnosed in life, I have no doubt he had been on the spectrum. As he had been born in 1923 in rural eastern Washington - a time and place only a decade or two removed from the old west - he hadn't been vaccinated for anything. No, he just got ungodly sick from an assortment of childhood ailments that vaccines today easily take care of. And yet, as I already stated, I believe he was still autistic.
My Grandmother was never diagnosed, but I am no doubt she was an aspie, as is my mother. Neither were vaccinated as infants or small children, yet both were aspie. Grandma told me stories that support the truth about growing up back when she born in 1917; that they lived in unsanitary conditions 24/7 that increased health risks.
I don't believe ALL autism is caused by vaccines, environmental toxins, or anything like that. I believe that the old aspies are part of our human evolutionary chain and thus an integral and important part of humanities growth. These people pass on these genetic 'upgrades' on their children who pass them on and so on.
When we see some of the level 3 type autistics I sometimes cry inside because I can see their autism isn't the same as mine in any real way except being in the brain. I have seen through a relatives eyes the very real and drastic change that can happen to a young child soon after getting vaccinated. It is obvious to me in ways hard to explain that their autism isn't part of evolution, but because of the arrogance and ignorance of man.
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Republican presidential nominee, former U.S. President Donald Trump arrives to speak during an election night event at the Palm Beach Convention Center on Nov. 6, in West Palm Beach, Fla.
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"For too long, Americans have been crushed by the industrial food complex and drug companies who have engaged in deception, misinformation, and disinformation when it comes to Public Health," Trump said in a statement on Truth Social. "The Safety and Health of all Americans is the most important role of any Administration, and HHS will play a big role in helping ensure that everybody will be protected from harmful chemicals, pollutants, pesticides, pharmaceutical products, and food additives that have contributed to the overwhelming Health Crisis in this Country. Mr. Kennedy will restore these Agencies to the traditions of Gold Standard Scientific Research, and beacons of Transparency, to end the Chronic Disease epidemic, and to Make America Great and Healthy Again!"
The announcement on Thursday came as no surprise. For weeks, Trump had made clear that Kennedy would have a role in his administration.
"He's going to help make America healthy again," Trump said of Kennedy during celebratory election night remarks. "He's a great guy and he really means it. He wants to do some things and we're going to let him go do it."
In an interview with NPR before the choice was announced, Kennedy said, "President Trump has given me three instructions: He wants the corruption and the conflicts out of the regulatory agencies. He wants to return the agencies to the gold standard empirically based, evidence-based science and medicine that they were once famous for. And he wants to end the chronic disease epidemic with measurable impacts on a diminishment of chronic disease within two years."
If confirmed by the Senate, the role would give Kennedy the chance to actualize a vision of public health that is often at odds with mainstream health and science.
Kennedy's baseless claims have included that Wi-Fi causes cancer and "leaky brain"; that school shootings are attributable to antidepressants; that chemicals in water can lead to children becoming transgender; and that AIDS may not be caused by HIV. He's also long said that vaccines cause autism and fail to protect people from diseases.
WiFi causes... leaky brain. What is leaky brain?
Leaky Brain Syndrome refers to a condition where the blood-brain barrier, a protective barrier that separates the bloodstream from the brain, becomes more permeable than usual. This heightened permeability allows substances that would normally be blocked, such as toxins and pathogens, to enter the brain tissue.
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Also, I think that it is well known that high levels of aluminum are correlated with one or more types of dementia.
One real question should be "Does the aluminum cause the condition or does the condition make us more likely to absorb and store aluminum?" It is just as crazy to assume one side or the other.
Yes that is indeed true about it being very common element on earth. It has also been found in significantly higher levels in the autopsied brains of dementia and schizophrenia patients according to studies. The theory seems to be that the aluminum is a major contributor, most likely by causing myelin damage.
Very recent studies are suggesting the need for deep dive research into the usage of thimerosal and aluminum together in vaccines.
Neurotoxic effects of combined exposures to aluminum and mercury in early life (infancy)
Aluminum and mercury are environmentally ubiquitous. Individually they are both neurotoxic elements with shared neuro-pathogenic pathways: oxidative stress, altered neurotransmission, and disruption of the neuroendocrine and immune systems. In the infant, Al and Hg differ in type of exposure, absorption, distribution (brain access), and metabolism. In environmentally associated exposure (breast milk and infant formulas) their co-occurrences fluctuate randomly, but in Thimerosal-containing vaccines (TCVs) they occur combined in a proprietary ratio; in these cases, low-doses of Thimerosal-ethylmercury (EtHg) and adjuvant-Al present the most widespread binary mixture in less developed countries. Although experimental studies at low doses of the binary Hg and Al mixture are rare, when studied individually they have been shown to affect neurological outcomes negatively. In in vitro systems, comparative neurotoxicity between Al and Hg varies in relation to the measured parameters but seems less for Al than for Hg. While neurotoxicity of environmental Hg (mainly fish methyl-Hg, MeHg) is associated with neurobehavioral outcomes in children, environmental Al is not associated, except in certain clinical conditions. Therefore, the issues of their neurotoxic effects (singly or combined) are discussed. In the infant (up to six months) the organic-Hg and Al body burdens from a full TCV schedule are estimated to reach levels higher than that originating from breastfeeding or from high aluminum soy-based formulas. Despite worldwide exposure to both Al and Hg (inorganic Hg, MeHg, and Thimerosal/EtHg), our knowledge on this combined exposure is insufficient to predict their combined neurotoxic effects (and with other co-occurring neurotoxicants).
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While my dad had never been diagnosed in life, I have no doubt he had been on the spectrum. As he had been born in 1923 in rural eastern Washington - a time and place only a decade or two removed from the old west - he hadn't been vaccinated for anything. No, he just got ungodly sick from an assortment of childhood ailments that vaccines today easily take care of. And yet, as I already stated, I believe he was still autistic.
My Grandmother was never diagnosed, but I am no doubt she was an aspie, as is my mother. Neither were vaccinated as infants or small children, yet both were aspie. Grandma told me stories that support the truth about growing up back when she born in 1917; that they lived in unsanitary conditions 24/7 that increased health risks.
I don't believe ALL autism is caused by vaccines, environmental toxins, or anything like that. I believe that the old aspies are part of our human evolutionary chain and thus an integral and important part of humanities growth. These people pass on these genetic 'upgrades' on their children who pass them on and so on.
When we see some of the level 3 type autistics I sometimes cry inside because I can see their autism isn't the same as mine in any real way except being in the brain. I have seen through a relatives eyes the very real and drastic change that can happen to a young child soon after getting vaccinated. It is obvious to me in ways hard to explain that their autism isn't part of evolution, but because of the arrogance and ignorance of man.
I believe the only reason why there's more diagnosis of autism today is because we have a better understanding that it exists on a spectrum rather than one sort of severe disability. I have to side with legitimate science on this.
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While my dad had never been diagnosed in life, I have no doubt he had been on the spectrum. As he had been born in 1923 in rural eastern Washington - a time and place only a decade or two removed from the old west - he hadn't been vaccinated for anything. No, he just got ungodly sick from an assortment of childhood ailments that vaccines today easily take care of. And yet, as I already stated, I believe he was still autistic.
My Grandmother was never diagnosed, but I am no doubt she was an aspie, as is my mother. Neither were vaccinated as infants or small children, yet both were aspie. Grandma told me stories that support the truth about growing up back when she born in 1917; that they lived in unsanitary conditions 24/7 that increased health risks.
I don't believe ALL autism is caused by vaccines, environmental toxins, or anything like that. I believe that the old aspies are part of our human evolutionary chain and thus an integral and important part of humanities growth. These people pass on these genetic 'upgrades' on their children who pass them on and so on.
When we see some of the level 3 type autistics I sometimes cry inside because I can see their autism isn't the same as mine in any real way except being in the brain. I have seen through a relatives eyes the very real and drastic change that can happen to a young child soon after getting vaccinated. It is obvious to me in ways hard to explain that their autism isn't part of evolution, but because of the arrogance and ignorance of man.
I believe the only reason why there's more diagnosis of autism today is because we have a better understanding that it exists on a spectrum rather than one sort of severe disability. I have to side with legitimate science on this.
The other side would argue it is because of the ever increasing number of increasingly toxic vaccines administered coupled with an ever increasing toxicity of our environment, pesticides on and in our food, and in our bodies. They would say it isn't 1 specific thing, but rather a combination of contributing factors that work in concert to cause neurological and biological problems. The folly is society's obsession with pinpointing the singular cause when it is a complex pattern of things from multiple sources.
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