Nominate a famous person you think may be on the spectrum

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24 Nov 2024, 8:52 pm

I nominate Patrick Mahomes. Watch what he does with his hands after a play that didn’t go according to plan. He likes all of his finders while his brain (I am guessing) is on overload going over a mental replay in his mind.



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24 Nov 2024, 9:05 pm

Eminem, at least based on him referring to having Asperger's.


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25 Nov 2024, 4:29 am

Thelonious Monk. I have a strong impression about him being on the Spectrum. Jazz has been a big part of my life; my jazz musician boyfriend met Monk by chance in the street one night. They really hit it off. Both in hindsight now definitely not neurotypical....

I have known many talented musicians in my life - including my foster dad and his dad - and it's interesting to look back at my many decades of complete ignorance about AS - belatedly recognising compelling features of autism in so many gifted musicians in hindsight.

On my "not quite so sure but probably" list is Oscar Pedersen - his unique style, his original interpretations, the way he always muttered to himself constantly as he performed, as if no-one else was in the room, and Oscar was on Planet Music. He rearranged well known songs to make them outstanding.. a touch of savantism perhaps.



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25 Nov 2024, 4:39 am

BillyTree wrote:
If I were a famous person I wouldn't want people to "nominate" or speculate about me being autistic. I would like being open about it or not to be my decision.


What Billy said.

Substitute the phrase 'on the spectrum' for the word 'gay' and this thread would get deleted immediately.



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25 Nov 2024, 4:46 am

But its not a thread about gay people, and WP doesn't censor out topics that feature gay people unless they are rude and/or disrespectful.



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25 Nov 2024, 5:12 am

SendInTheClowns wrote:
But its not a thread about gay people, and WP doesn't censor out topics that feature gay people unless they are rude and/or disrespectful.


Think you've missed the point.

Being autistic is a difference. We are othered, targeted, excluded as a result.

Nowadays it is considered unacceptable to 'out' people as gay. If it isn't yet considered unacceptable to 'out' people as autistic, we should be trying a little harder to get there.



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25 Nov 2024, 1:01 pm

I nominate Classical Pianist Glenn Gould.

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Gould was widely known for his unusual habits. He often hummed or sang while he played, and his audio engineers were not always able to exclude his voice from recordings. Gould claimed that his singing was unconscious and increased in proportion to his inability to produce his intended interpretation on a given piano. It is likely that the habit originated in his having been taught by his mother to "sing everything that he played", as his biographer Kevin Bazzana wrote. This became "an unbreakable (and notorious) habit". Some of Gould's recordings were severely criticised because of this background "vocalising". For example, a reviewer of his 1981 rerecording of the Goldberg Variations wrote that many listeners would "find the groans and croons intolerable". Gould was known for his peculiar, even theatrical, gesticulations while playing. Another oddity was his insistence on absolute control over every aspect of his environment. The temperature of the recording studio had to be precisely regulated; he invariably insisted that it be extremely warm. According to another of Gould's biographers, Otto Friedrich, the air-conditioning engineer had to work just as hard as the recording engineers.

The piano had to be set at a certain height and would be raised on wooden blocks if necessary.A rug would sometimes be required for his feet. He had to sit exactly 14 inches (360 mm) above the floor, and would play concerts only with the chair his father had made. He used this chair even when the seat was completely worn.His chair is so closely identified with him that it is shown in a place of honour in a glass case at Library and Archives Canada.

Conductors had mixed responses to Gould and his playing habits. George Szell, who led Gould in 1957 with the Cleveland Orchestra, remarked to his assistant, "That nut's a genius."Bernstein said, "There is nobody quite like him, and I just love playing with him." Specifically, Bernstein was referring to their rehearsals, with Gould's insistence that the entire first movement be played at half the indicated tempo.

Gould was averse to cold and wore heavy clothing (including gloves) even in warm places. He was once arrested, possibly being mistaken for a vagrant, while sitting on a park bench in Sarasota, Florida, dressed in his standard all-climate attire of coat, hat and mittens.He also disliked social functions. He hated being touched, and in later life limited personal contact, relying on the telephone and letters for communication. On a visit to Steinway Hall in New York City in 1959, the chief piano technician at the time, William Hupfer, greeted Gould with a slap on the back. Gould was shocked by this, and complained of aching, lack of coordination, and fatigue because of it. He went on to explore the possibility of litigation against Steinway & Sons if his apparent injuries were permanent. He was known for cancelling performances at the last minute, which is why Bernstein's aforementioned public disclaimer opened with, "Don't be frightened, Mr. Gould is here ... [he] will appear in a moment."

Gould was a teetotaller and did not smoke.He did not cook; instead he often ate at restaurants and relied on room service. He ate one meal a day, supplemented by arrowroot biscuits and coffee.

The documentary filmmaker Bruno Monsaingeon said of him: "No supreme pianist has ever given of his heart and mind so overwhelmingly while showing himself so sparingly."


The most compelling case for an undiagnosed famous person I have seen so far.


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25 Nov 2024, 4:59 pm

Maybe Beethoven. I think he had some eccentricities and I believe he never married. Sounds like he did visit prostitutes from time to time, though.



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29 Nov 2024, 6:52 am

I nominate the extraordinary, innovative, and transformative English painter, J M W Turner. Many people have speculated on this (I now know) for a long time.

When I first went to London in my late 20s, I hadn't a clue about AS and had never heard of it. My first priority in London was to make a bee-line to the Tate Gallery to see some of Turner's greatest paintings. Many decades later, noticed the biographical film "Mr Turner" (played by the wonderful actor Timothy Spall) the depiction of Turner's eccentricity, social non-conformity, individuality, his obsession with transforming the art style of the time into new innovative directions, and his indifference to social conventions fascinated me, though I didn't quite understand why at that time either.

The possibility of him being AS suddenly popped up in my thoughts tonight. Definitely nominating him....



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29 Nov 2024, 6:54 am

AsPartOfMe, I'm very grateful for your nomination of Glenn Gould. An outstandingly talented performer, he was so perfectionistic and self critical that he sometimes wrote and published terrible reviews of his performances under false names.