ASA regulator bans advert for mocking Virgin Mary

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Having seen the comment in conjunction with others, not only do I agree with the parallel, but I’m somewhat surprised that you haven’t been banned. I’m not trying to be mean when I say that, but a similar statement could result in an automatic ban on another platform. Just something to keep in mind.

Noted.

This here is exactly why the conversation gets framed in terms of "Christianity", rather than individually discussing Roman Catholics vs Baptists vs Protestants vs Lutherans vs Quakers vs Jehovah's Witnesses etc etc, all of whom are "Christian", but still have very different belief structures, despite any overlap. Similar to how they always refer to THE Pope, even though there's actually seven different Popes depending on the branch of Christianity.

If a Jehovah's Witness stops a Roman Catholic from having an Easter party, is that defending christianity in favor of the JW, or is that discriminating christianity by blocking the Catholic? Someone called Cornflake's perception of god "egotistical", yet it's right in line with Lutheranism. Is that persecuting christanity if you deny or insult Lutheran beliefs? Lutheranism says I don't even have to baptized in order to find salvation. Can Baptists and Protestants come after me, or am I protected?

Rather than get into all that, they get lumped together as "Christians!" in order to make things seem like a cohesive whole, rather than a patchwork of scattered yet similar beliefs.

Is there a Christian sect that would celebrate the vengeful and jealous traits embodied in the God of the Old Testament?

It seems like they all equally try to ignore/downplay/avoid giving attention to those aspects, from the most progressive to the most conservative, from the most fundamentalist to the most liberal.

JWs focus more on the OT than Jesus, but yeah, they don’t really celebrate YHWH’s traits so much as gaslight themselves into believing that his sh***y behavior is a-okay.

Exactly what I mean. There's a weird double-think where clearly intolerable behaviour must be approved of because it's YHWH behaving like the demon the Egyptians identified him as.

Let me give you an example. Here in this disgusting passage at Deuteronomy 21:10-13:

When they cover this in their weekly Bible reading, JWs act like waiting one month demonstrates Jehover’s love and compassion. I.just.can’t.

My blood pressure is rising…

What further complicates the issue is that Jesus himself upholds the OT at Mathew 5:17-20:

He also quotes passages of the OT here and there although it seems likely that scribes put words in Jesus’ mouth. Well, that’s true in a more general sense…

Anyway, a lot of Christians just uphold the nice things Jesus supposedly said which is good, but I think it’s challenging for many to decide what they will or won’t follow. Of course, some just allow their denomination to decide for them which can be quite problematic.

Just in case anyone gets the wrong impression from some of my posts - whilst I do often ponder the issues of LGBTQIA+ in relation to the Christianity, in no way do I generally dislike homosexuals of any type, or any LGBTQIA+ folk simply for having any of those characteristics.

In real life, I tend to keep any controversial topics I have in mind quiet, for the sake of peace.

I can't help what goes through my head though? And I would hope that people would be a bit charitable when estimating the intentions of my postings here in PPR.

Stop apologizing, you're going out of your way to be sensitive, and the people attacking you are going out of theirs to be uncharitable.

I did get the feeling that people perhaps were inclined to being a bit uncharitable, hence my request for charity.

I don't mind being sensitive though.

Fair enough, I just don't like to see that kind of toxicity being heaped on someone just trying to feel their way through a controversial topic.

^ Thank you for your consideration, Dox.

I think that people have been remarkably charitable throughout this thread taking various factors into account. It’s really not a controversial topic or, at least, it shouldn’t be.

From GLAAD:

https://glaad.org/reference/terms/

I’m not meaning to nitpick. It’s just something to maybe think about.

I have been to several countries around the world during my life and have met and known people of all religions. Some were good, some were bad, and most were somewhere in between. Each and every religion has both amazingly good and horrifically bad events in their past that cannot be changed, only learned from. I personally do not subscribe to any religion but I do view the universe as a living entity. I care not what religion anyone chooses to follow, I only care if they are kind and treat others with the respect of an equal. People are the same everywhere, the only things that separate us are languages and cultures. Everyone's poop stinks.

Making fun of other peoples religion, race, culture, and so on isn't anything new. I believe in the fundamental tenets of free speech, but I also believe free speech is never free. Everything we say and do in this world causes a ripple, has an effect even if we never see it. Mocking anyone's religion in the context the Virgin Mary is free speech, but as we see it rippled into censorship and then back into a circular backlash loop spiraling into nothing but hate from all towards each other. Who wins? We live in a world today on a brink of insanity where dark minded people keep trying to provoke others into 'starting something' with these sort of taunts.

I guess the question is if there is anything each of us can to do when these thing happen, and if there is then what it is we can do. We need a plan. For me the plan has always been simple, treat people as I want to be treated. Words have emotional power and therefore I try to keep emotion out of my words, I verbalize my emotion with behavior and words when necessary and appropriate. Kindness is never a weakness, it is always true strength. Compassion, empathy, and tolerance is paramount; if I have nothing nice to say I shouldn't say anything. I still struggle with sarcasm when confronted a little bit but working on it. Nobody is perfect after all, except everyone's God.

You're making me not trust that you know what is meant by charitable in this context.



GLADD is an activist organization, and a dishonest one at that, I actively disregard most anything they have to say.