Trump team fully embraces RFK Jr.'s vaccine skepticism

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01 Dec 2024, 2:34 pm

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Why isn't anyone focusing on the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide?

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What is Dihydrogen Monoxide?
Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid. Its basis is the highly reactive hydroxyl radical, a species shown to mutate DNA, denature proteins, disrupt cell membranes, and chemically alter critical neurotransmitters. The atomic components of DHMO are found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol.

For more detailed information, including precautions, disposal procedures and storage requirements, refer to one of the Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) available for DHMO:
https://dhmo.org/msds/MSDS-DHMO-Kemp.pdf

Should I be concerned about Dihydrogen Monoxide?
Yes, you should be concerned about DHMO! Although the U.S. Government and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) do not classify Dihydrogen Monoxide as a toxic or carcinogenic substance (as it does with better known chemicals such as hydrochloric acid and benzene), DHMO is a constituent of many known toxic substances, diseases and disease-causing agents, environmental hazards and can even be lethal to humans in quantities as small as a thimbleful.

Research conducted by award-winning U.S. scientist Nathan Zohner concluded that roughly 86 percent of the population supports a ban on dihydrogen monoxide. Although his results are preliminary, Zohner believes people need to pay closer attention to the information presented to them regarding Dihydrogen Monoxide. He adds that if more people knew the truth about DHMO then studies like the one he conducted would not be necessary.

A similar study conducted by U.S. researchers Patrick K. McCluskey and Matthew Kulick also found that nearly 90 percent of the citizens participating in their study were willing to sign a petition to support an outright ban on the use of Dihydrogen Monoxide in the United States.

What are some of the dangers associated with DHMO?
Each year, Dihydrogen Monoxide is a known causative component in many thousands of deaths and is a major contributor to millions upon millions of dollars in damage to property and the environment. Some of the known perils of Dihydrogen Monoxide are:

  • Death due to accidental inhalation of DHMO, even in small quantities.
  • Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage.
  • Excessive ingestion produces a number of unpleasant though not typically life-threatening side-effects.
  • DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
  • Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns.
  • Contributes to soil erosion.
  • Leads to corrosion and oxidation of many metals.
  • Contamination of electrical systems often causes short-circuits.
  • Exposure decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes.
  • Found in biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions.
  • Given to vicious dogs involved in recent deadly attacks.
  • Often associated with killer cyclones in the U.S. Midwest and elsewhere, and in hurricanes including deadly storms in Florida, New Orleans and other areas of the southeastern U.S.
  • Thermal variations in DHMO are a suspected contributor to the El Nino weather effect.

https://dhmo.org/facts.html


Fun fact: 100% of people who are exposed to DHMO will eventually die. :skull:


That information is found on the MSDS (material safety data sheet) for: water.

Yes, water can kill you. It is also needed for life on Earth. You die without it.



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01 Dec 2024, 2:36 pm

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That information is found on the MSDS (material safety data sheet) for: water.

Yes, water can kill you. It is also needed for life on Earth. You die without it.


Being reasonable is completely off-topic for this thread. :skull:


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01 Dec 2024, 2:54 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
QuantumChemist wrote:
That information is found on the MSDS (material safety data sheet) for: water.

Yes, water can kill you. It is also needed for life on Earth. You die without it.


Being reasonable is completely off-topic for this thread. :skull:


Sorry about that, it is a bad habit I have sometimes.

My old chemistry laboratory in grad school had the 4/4/4 ox/rad/toxic/no water sticker on the door. The no water meant that no water was to be used on any fires that would occur in that lab. It contained materials that would combust/explode upon contact with water/air. These were stored in an large inert atmosphere glovebox. Look up t-butyllithium to see the warnings on the MSDS for that one. We had a large bottle of it in the glovebox. It is a chemical that you only get one chance to make a mistake with.



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I'm not anti vaccine, nor am I pro vaccine. I have done more than enough of my own research to be very skeptical of the vaccine industry though; it is obvious to me that there has and is corruption, greed, and selfish egos driving the whole industry. I have worked in academic research and have seen first hand how easily and often studies and experiments can and are fabricated, manipulated, and even outright faked to support someone's personal agenda. We saw this blatantly and constantly when related with covid; vaccine makers found to have suppressed and fabricated information to support their vaccine push.


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Do I think vaccines alone cause autism? No, but honest research has repeatedly suggested they are a major factor.


I think I’m pretty much in agreement with you on this subject. I’m pleasantly surprised to see someone else on an aspie forum being open-minded about the dangers of vaccines.

I remember about three years ago I still believed the ‘party line’ on vaccines. It all seems rather ridiculous to me now.

It really is amazing that the authorities have convinced so many people that vaccines cannot be questioned, when common sense should tell us that they should be questioned just as much as any other drug (you know, like thalidomide and vioxx).

I think a lot of people just assume that each vaccine is nothing but an attenuated virus in water, because they haven’t researched how vaccines are made or what they contain (including aluminium adjuvants, preservatives, formaldehyde, and occasional biological contaminants).

I also think a lot of people don’t realise that it’s not just concerned parents in the lay community who become vaccine sceptics; there are lots of dissident doctors and scientists out there who become vaccine sceptics too.

And even if it were just parents from the lay community raising the alarm about vaccines, the idea that we should just ignore them should still seem wrong to most thinking people. There are thousands of parents who swear that their normally developing child developed brain damage (indistinguishable from autism) right after a vaccine, and we’re supposed to believe that in every single case it’s just a coincidence, and that it’s merely genetics that is to blame?

And if some people have not become more sceptical of the government-pharma complex after the covid crisis, then I have to wonder where they've been these past few years.



I've come to the conclusion that most people either don't have the time , patience, or sometimes intellectual capability to actually study and learn about these sort of very important subjects. A few of these people admit as much, but most don't. I have been and continue to be insulted and attacked online by these sort of people, usually accusing me of being an idiot and/or crazy. It doesn't really bother me, it does make me sad sometimes though. I love learning, it is my special interest I guess. If something intrigues my mind I study it, regardless of where it leads. Every answer found always triggers more questions.

Some of the research and articles I have read since covid I found quite disturbing and worrisome. The good ones that dealt with truth were full of concerning information about the true efficacy of the various covid shots. What was even more concerning to me was the increasing censorship agenda that has begun since 2020 which has tried and often succeeded in preventing or repressing any research information that dissents from the official narrative. It has become almost Orwellian in nature. We are told what we are to believe as absolute truth and are expected to blindly accept that as fact. Everything else, no matter what, is labelled as misinformation and therefore an evil lie that must be loudly and quickly crushed.

I think perhaps people have become afraid to verbally contradict or go against the mainstream, covid policies have effectively broken many peoples courage. Doctors who spoke up about the flaws and dangers of the vaccines were crucified by the media, many lost their jobs and even their licenses to practice medicine to shut them up and discredit their messages. Anyone who chose to not get the vaccine, for whatever reason, were attacked by everyone who found out. They were all labelled as selfish and evil people who were the reason the vaccinated were in constant danger. Nobody ever seemed to grasp how illogical that was, most can't make the connection.

In hindsight we are beginning to truly see just how corrupt and manipulative the whole pandemic really was. Hopefully this knowledge makes it was into the mainstream media and information channels soon.



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Today, 2:20 pm

Trump Claims RFK Jr. Will Be ‘Much Less Radical’ Than Expected

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President-elect Donald Trump dismissed concerns about Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s vaccine skepticism endangering children, saying Monday that his pick to lead the Department of Health and Human Services will be less extreme than critics have warned.

“I think he’s going to be much less radical than you would think. I think he’s got a very open mind, or I wouldn’t have put him there,” Trump said of Kennedy when speaking to reporters.

As recently as last year, Kennedy repeated the debunked claim that vaccines cause autism.

Trump then seemed to suggest that countries with fewer vaccine requirements are better off.

“But there are problems,” he said.” We don’t do as well as a lot of other nations, and those nations use nothing.”

He also said he’s a “believer” in the polio vaccine ― despite the recent media finding Kennedy has been working with a lawyer who’s trying to get the Food and Drug Administration to suspend its use for children.

“Well, I’m a big believer in it. And I think everything should be looked at, but I’m a big believer in the polio vaccine,” Trump said of nearly 70-year-old polio preventative, which has nearly eradicated a deadly, paralyzing disease in the U.S. that once infected some 16,000 Americans a year.

His comments Monday suggest more willingness to put the polio vaccine under some type of review. Earlier this month, when asked about vaccines during an appearance on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Trump described the polio vaccine as “the greatest thing,” saying: “If somebody told me to get rid of the polio vaccine, they’re going to have to work real hard to convince me.”

As for schools mandating vaccines, Trump said Monday: “I don’t like mandates. I’m not a big mandate person. So you know, I was against mandates, mostly Democrat governors did the mandates, and they did a very poor thing. You know in retrospect they made a big mistake, having to do with the education of children.”


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ASPartOfMe wrote:
Trump Claims RFK Jr. Will Be ‘Much Less Radical’ Than Expected
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President-elect Donald Trump dismissed concerns about Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s vaccine skepticism endangering children, saying Monday that his pick to lead the Department of Health and Human Services will be less extreme than critics have warned.

“I think he’s going to be much less radical than you would think. I think he’s got a very open mind, or I wouldn’t have put him there,” Trump said of Kennedy when speaking to reporters.

As recently as last year, Kennedy repeated the debunked claim that vaccines cause autism.

Trump then seemed to suggest that countries with fewer vaccine requirements are better off.

“But there are problems,” he said.” We don’t do as well as a lot of other nations, and those nations use nothing.”

He also said he’s a “believer” in the polio vaccine ― despite the recent media finding Kennedy has been working with a lawyer who’s trying to get the Food and Drug Administration to suspend its use for children.

“Well, I’m a big believer in it. And I think everything should be looked at, but I’m a big believer in the polio vaccine,” Trump said of nearly 70-year-old polio preventative, which has nearly eradicated a deadly, paralyzing disease in the U.S. that once infected some 16,000 Americans a year.

His comments Monday suggest more willingness to put the polio vaccine under some type of review. Earlier this month, when asked about vaccines during an appearance on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Trump described the polio vaccine as “the greatest thing,” saying: “If somebody told me to get rid of the polio vaccine, they’re going to have to work real hard to convince me.”

As for schools mandating vaccines, Trump said Monday: “I don’t like mandates. I’m not a big mandate person. So you know, I was against mandates, mostly Democrat governors did the mandates, and they did a very poor thing. You know in retrospect they made a big mistake, having to do with the education of children.”


When kids start dying from preventable illnesses, Trump and Bobby Jr. will have a lot to explain. Maybe Trump can insist: "I don't like mandates."


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