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shortfatbalduglyman
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15 Dec 2024, 11:48 pm

What kind of corporal punishment have you received, inflicted, or witnessed?

What did someone allegedly do wrong?

Cane, paddle, belt?

Pants up or down?

Do you think they deserved a caning?

How many witnesses?

Did the caning change the behavior of the alleged perpetrator?

What does it feel like to get caned with pants and underpants down?



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17 Dec 2024, 12:15 pm

shortfatbalduglyman wrote:
What kind of corporal punishment have you received, inflicted, or witnessed?

Received several times, never inflicted, can't remember witnessing it except when it was done to me.

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What did someone allegedly do wrong?

Talking, failing to do homework, laughing too long at a teacher's humorous comments, using the plastered wall as a dartboard.

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Cane, paddle, belt?

Cane. There was one teacher who often referred to his armoury of punishment implements, but I was never treated to any of them.

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Pants up or down?

Always up.

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Do you think they deserved a caning?

I suppose I deserved it for the wall vandalism incident. Probably not for talking, laughing too long, or failing to do homework (they expected a hell of a lot of homework and put me completely out of my depth with their lack of clarity)

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How many witnesses?

For the secondary school (always caned on the bum), only one other teacher. For the junior school, the whole class and no adult witnesses.

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Did the caning change the behavior of the alleged perpetrator?

Can't vouch for other caning victims, but with me it was mixed. Sometimes it induced me to try a bit harder to conform, other times it didn't.

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What does it feel like to get caned with pants and underpants down?

Very glad to say I've no idea what that feels like. Such a thing would have been seen as barbaric even in my day (1960s).



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17 Dec 2024, 1:20 pm

shortfatbalduglyman wrote:
What kind of corporal punishment have you received, inflicted, or witnessed?
received/witnessed
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What did someone allegedly do wrong?

Usually being a smartarse, occasionally wrong place wrong time /set up by classmates
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Cane, paddle, belt?

Yes...all 3 plus the giant blackboard ruler and the bare hand
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Pants up or down?

Always up except for dad's hand... And my primary school headmistress preferred caning the back of the thighs.
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Do you think they deserved a caning?

From dad?...yes
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How many witnesses?

The headmistress liked to cane at school assembly
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Did the caning change the behavior of the alleged perpetrator?

Sometimes
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What does it feel like to get caned with pants and underpants down?

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17 Dec 2024, 3:40 pm

I was spanked by my parents but never caned or paddled by anyone.

I stopped being spanked because I had started to retaliate and/or dig in to make it impossible to follow through on that punishment. I'd barricade myself in a room and arm myself in an attempt to preempt corporal punishment, if/when that failed I'd respond with exponential escalation so that whatever I was initially being punished for was almost trivial by comparison to how things ended.

When attempts at dissuading corporal punishment failed I'd retaliate by destroying property, which ultimately would just set off another cycle of resisting corporal punishment, failing and going on another rampage to inflict as high of cost as possible on the person who had hit me.

Eventually my folks changed tactics and saw much more success.

For both my own development and their well-being I'm grateful non-parental authorities never attempted to use corporal punishment against me. For that matter, I'm grateful corporal punishment wasn't the norm in schools here because I'm not sure I'd have been able to resist retaliating on the behalf of others either.


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17 Dec 2024, 3:52 pm

When I was a kid you got the strap as corporal punishment. It's where they would smack your palms really hard with a strap. I only got it once in grade 1 or 2 for reasons I did not really understand at the time. The teacher said it was for lying. The school I went to was religious and when I was a little older I started to believe all liars went to hell.

They stopped using the strap as punishment in Atlantic Canada by the end of the 80s. Does the UK still use the cane on students? I read a story by Roald Dahl about how he and other kids would be caned for the most trivial things, and he described it in such vivid detail it was both horrifying and amazing. His masters (they didn't call them teachers back then), also apparently thought he was really stupid and there was no hint that he'd a famous author one day. I guess that could be the reason for his having such a dark sense of humor. :)



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17 Dec 2024, 3:53 pm

I was often spanked when I was growing up. I didn’t do anything that bad. It was just normal kid behavior - talking back, being disrespectful, or refusing to clean my room. When I got too big for my mom to make it hurt, my dad would do it, often with a belt and pants down. He left welts sometimes. It was normal in the religious, conservative environment I was raised in. Some kids had it better while others had it worse. We didn’t deserve it. No kid deserves corporal punishment.

The Principal spanked kids in my small, rural elementary school. I think he used a paddle. I never misbehaved in school so didn’t experience that. I feel sorry for the kids who did, especially with that as*hole. He’d get angry and scream at kids sometimes which was totally inappropriate.



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18 Dec 2024, 8:45 am

I find a lot of your questions strange. Are you really interested to know if other people wore pants or not when they were beaten? :?

As for me. No such experience. I've never done anything bad (as far as they know) when I was little. Even though I have an angry mom who was prone to explosion. If things were looking tense I'd just leave and go for a walk outside. Is it so hard to act good and run away if there's danger?


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18 Dec 2024, 9:36 am

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Is it so hard to act good and run away if there's danger?

It can be. Sometimes it’s more about parents having unreasonable expectations than their kids misbehaving. That may be especially the case for kids with ADHD and autism. Sometimes kids learn that running away will result in a bigger punishment. For me, being beaten when my parents were angry was always worse, not that I fully thought it through. It was, perhaps, too complex for me to completely understand at the time.

There are lots of possibilities, though. I think every situation is different.



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18 Dec 2024, 10:54 am

I was sometimes spanked by my parents, but always knew why, so no big deal. In primary school, though, where caning was still allowed, the headmaster automatically proclaimed me guilty of any misdemeanour I was within spitting distance of, though I was usually not to blame. Unsurprisingly, I've no problem with parents spanking their kids when it's justified (they need to learn discipline; it doesn't come automatically) but dead against any corporal punishment in schools...



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18 Dec 2024, 4:03 pm

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18 Dec 2024, 4:17 pm

The only people who deserve corporal punishment are those who inflict it.

I've often heard the so-called justification "My parents hit me and I turned out just fine." Well, if you think beating up your kids is necessary you obviously didn't turn out just fine. It's like when people who are bullied become bullies themselves--in fact, it's not "like" that, it is that.

You will either turn your kid into as terrible a parent as you are or you will make them hate you. Hopefully the latter.


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18 Dec 2024, 11:32 pm

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I've often heard the so-called justification "My parents hit me and I turned out just fine." Well, if you think beating up your kids is necessary you obviously didn't turn out just fine. It's like when people who are bullied become bullies themselves--in fact, it's not "like" that, it is that.


I usually follow up to that sort of remark with asking them to define fine, because normalizing child abuse isn't consistent with turning out fine.

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You will either turn your kid into as terrible a parent as you are or you will make them hate you. Hopefully the latter.


Both is definitely an option on the table. :nerdy:


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19 Dec 2024, 9:03 am

I'm very sorry for everyone who experienced it first hand.

In the UK it was banned in schools in 1986 I think, but if I'm right that didn't apply to private schools until 1999 which seems insane to me. In any case I don't think it was widely used since the 70s so I avoided it.

I have a memory of my father hitting me with a shoe. Just the one time. He denies this ever happened and I was young enough to not be sure of that memory. So I don't know.


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21 Dec 2024, 9:41 pm

When I was in Year 1 (1983), a kid from my class got caned and it was a big deal because it was rarely done at my school. I think the next year I was there, it was no longer allowed.

Though in Year 4 (different school) I was hit across the back of my head hard by a substitute teacher for not colouring in properly. Bit of an over-reaction if you ask me.

My parents gave us regular smacks. My dad would use his belt. Watching him unbuckle it would instill fear in us and we'd start running.

My mum would use whatever she could grab at the time. The wooden spoon, a ruler, her hands, etc. She broke a brush on my sister.

It got passed down. My oldest sister would flick or twist her two boys' ears if they misbehaved. My two other sisters didn't smack or deal out any other type of physical punishment.