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16 Dec 2024, 5:03 pm

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I love how we're pretending Israeli antagonism is actually self-defence. World's most successful crybullies.

Agree. I have always wondered when people talk about the right to defend themselves. Shouldn't that imply acknowledging international law, ICC, ICJ and so on? Otherwise I'm not sure what rights they are referring to.

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16 Dec 2024, 5:13 pm

It's long been recognized that resistance and even armed struggle against a colonial occupation force is not just recognized under international law but specifically endorsed.

With that in mind it's hard to see how anyone can offer legitimate excuses for Israel's aggression.

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16 Dec 2024, 5:13 pm

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A few years from now, you'll wonder why they are launching attacks against you.

Is that the "Camel's Nose" fallacy or the "Slippery Slope"?

Didn't the US already try arming and funding al-Qaida? Wasn't that how we got bin Ladin? Is our memory that short?

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16 Dec 2024, 5:18 pm

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Indeed. In Sweden and a few other countries we acknowledge the human nature in wanting to be free. That's why you don't get added prison time for jailbreak. Unless you commit other crimes during.

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17 Dec 2024, 6:26 am

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It's not surprising, it's calculated (you need to pause ad blocker to see this page), since 2013:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/201 ... fdfef50000

Rebels in the south (and south-east) of Syria were mostly ISIS, unlike the rebels in the Turkey-backed area in the north.

Israel and ISIS were buddies of convenience (like...MOST alliances in the Middleast), forged by a common enemy.

But according to the Haaretz article you posted, the faction Israel was allied with was Fursan al-Joulan (see Wikipedia and see Middle East Eye article), not ISIS/ISIL/Daesh?

It is described as "non-islamist" in the wiki article, yet in their very logo there's the Shahada (The islamic oath).

Frankly, I think many of them are former ISIS who changed their t-shirts only.

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17 Dec 2024, 10:20 pm

Atop Syrian Hermon, Netanyahu says Israel to stay until ‘another arrangement’ found

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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed on Tuesday that Israeli troops would remain stationed inside Syria for the foreseeable future, as he met with senior security officials for a situation review atop Mount Hermon.

The premier was joined by Defense Minister Israel Katz, IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevi, Shin Bet chief Ronen Bat and Northern Command head Maj. Gen. Uri Gordin, and his visit appeared to mark the first time a sitting Israeli leader has entered Syrian territory.

Israel entered the United Nations-patrolled buffer zone in the Golan Heights hours after rebel groups in Syria took Damascus on December 8, stressing that the seizure of the buffer zone established in 1974 is a temporary defensive move that will last only until security is guaranteed along the frontier. Israel says it has no desire to become involved in the conflict in Syria.

Standing atop Mount Hermon, Netanyahu reiterated that Israel would remain on its peak “until another arrangement can be found that guarantees Israel’s security.”

“I was here 53 years ago with my soldiers on a Sayeret Matkal patrol,” he said, speaking of the nostalgia that the site brought him.

“This place hasn’t changed, it’s the same place, but its importance to Israel’s security has only been reinforced in recent years, and especially in recent weeks with the dramatic events taking place below us here in Syria,” Netanyahu said.

He added that going forward, Israel would “determine the best arrangement that will guarantee our security.

Echoing the same sentiments as the premier, Defense Minister Katz described Mount Hermon as “the eyes of the State of Israel to detect near and far threats.”

“The IDF is here to protect the communities of the Golan Heights and the citizens of the State of Israel from any threat, from the most important place to do so,” he said in remarks provided by his office.

Turkish invasion into Syria 'could be imminent,' US officials fear - report

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The United States is increasingly alarmed that Turkey and its militia allies are preparing for a large-scale military incursion into Syrian territory controlled by US-backed Kurdish forces, according to an exclusive Wall Street Journal report on Tuesday, citing US officials.

The officials cited a significant Turkish military buildup near Kobani, a Kurdish-majority city on the Syria-Turkey border, sparking fears of imminent conflict.

According to US officials cited in the report, the buildup resembled Turkish movements seen ahead of its 2019 invasion of northeast Syria. One US official, speaking to the WSJ, warned that “a cross-border operation could be imminent.”

The officials also emphasized that a new Turkish offensive would deepen instability in the region and undermine efforts to maintain security against Islamic State remnants.

The report detailed the deployment of Turkish uniformed commandos, artillery units, and allied militias to strategic positions along the border.

In response to the escalating situation, Ilham Ahmed, a senior official in the Kurdish civilian administration in Syria, penned a letter to President-elect Donald Trump, urging him to pressure Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to abandon the planned operation.

Ahmed’s letter, obtained by the WSJ, stated that Turkey aimed to seize control of Kurdish territory before Trump’s inauguration, thereby forcing the new administration to recognize Ankara’s authority in the region.

The letter reportedly appealed to Trump’s prior assurances of support for the Kurdish forces, reminding him of his past promises that “the United States wouldn’t abandon the Kurds.”

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18 Dec 2024, 1:02 am

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Atop Syrian Hermon, Netanyahu says Israel to stay until ‘another arrangement’ found

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Turkish invasion into Syria 'could be imminent,' US officials fear - report

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Kurdish allies? What they hell are they doing still trusting us?

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18 Dec 2024, 1:30 am

Turkey has always wanted to exterminate the Kurds. Won't be their first genocide either.

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18 Dec 2024, 1:54 am

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Turkey has always wanted to exterminate the Kurds. Won't be their first genocide either.

Oh, I don't doubt that one minute about Turkey. I was just amazed that the Kurds would consider us friends still, after how Trump treated them so shabbily.

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18 Dec 2024, 9:09 am

From above: So we have Netanyahu sitting atop a peak of its other nextdoor neighbour . Mt Hernan or some such.
This was a Genocide of conquest. Syria was not engaged in a War with Israel..In fact a long held treaty with a buffer zone was apparently broken by Israel . Making outlsndish statements about an acceptable arrangements for Syria...
a completely seperate Country far older than Israel . These situations make it hard to think that Israel has ANY right to its region. After all my reading here.,based on quotes and reports . That it would be a very good thing for all peoples
If the Area that refers itself to , as Israel. Needs to be dissolved. Until a better government can be installed .
One that might be alittle LESS Genocidal . This would eliminate strains in the Middle East. Monies could directed towards human development in the surrounding areas .
US funds , primarily paid for by US taxpayers to, supply Israels military,Would stop, Easing the situations in the USA
at least fir the average Tax payer . Those funds if needed could go to more humanitarian efforts.
Maybe even the UN could / would start doing its job again. And most off All * People might stop dying en masse in that region of the MiddleEast .
Perhaps Judeo/ Christian Churches here would stop funding this stuff.And actually go back to funding more humanitarian things ( pursuits).

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18 Dec 2024, 12:45 pm

The Kurds should find other allies, it would be foolish to trust the US again, especially the US under Trump administration.

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18 Dec 2024, 6:00 pm

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The Kurds should find other allies, it would be foolish to trust the US again, especially the US under Trump administration.

I wouldn't blame them one bit.

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20 Dec 2024, 7:22 am

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A video online went viral showing a girl wearing a hood on her head to take a photo with the Syrian rebel leader Abu Mohammed al-Jolani. The Syrian rebel leader asked her to cover her hair before taking a photo with him. Later on, the young woman posted a comment on her Instagram account where she explained that the rebel commander asked her to cover her hair only when she asked him to take a picture with her, and there were other girls and women around who weren’t wearing a hijab. She praised him and his mujahedin for liberating them and bringing freedom to their country. Jolani had already stated that hijab won’t be mandatory.

Awwww

I wonder what would have happened if she simply said no.

Problem is, would they remain moderate like so when they are not the media's center of attention anymore?

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20 Dec 2024, 12:42 pm

from above quote: Problem is, would they remain moderate like so when they are not the media's center of attention anymore?

This will be interesting when that time comes...? :roll:

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25 Dec 2024, 12:39 pm

IDF says forces shot toward protesters in Syria who approached them

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The Israeli army said on Wednesday that its forces fired toward protesters who approached them in southern Syria.

According to the IDF, soldiers identified several protesters and, after calling on them to move away, responded with gunfire.

The army also said that claims that there were casualties are being investigated.

Syrian state media reported earlier Wednesday that three people were wounded by IDF gunfire directed toward protesters in the Quneitra area.

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