Democrats and the need to rebuild civil society
The Secret Reason the Dems Keep Losing, on the YouTube channel of Adam Conover
From the description on YouTube:
I'll add that most of the few remaining mass membership organizations, of kinds that include opportunities to socialize, tend to be right-wing-leaning, e.g. megachurches and the NRA.
On the other hand, the death of the social aspect of labor unions is probably one of the big reasons why the Democratic Party has ceased to focus very much on general working-class issues.
The video doesn't mention that various marginalized minority groups still are relatively better-organized than mainstream nonreligious white working-class folks. (For example, there are LGBT Community Centers in almost every major city.) And that's probably a big reason why the Democratic Party has tended to focus so heavily on marginalized minority groups (or at least the better-organized ones -- which doesn't include the autistic community, alas).
The Democratic Party really needs to balance its appeal to marginalized minorities with a more general appeal to working-class issues, but it cannot politically benefit from so doing without creating an organized Democratic-leaning working-class subculture, to counteract today's right wing working-class subculture.
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From an article mentioned in the above video:
The Party Should Throw Them a Party: "A proposal for how to build a more durable Democratic coalition," by Ned Resnikoff, November 11, 2024:
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[...] important but informal channels for receiving political information have atrophied. Social media, infotainment, and charismatic authority are all powerful weapons, but they would be less powerful if they weren’t filling a vacuum.
I’m referring to the vacuum left by the collapse of civil society; the slow death of the community bonds and daily rituals that used to provide weight and substance to democratic life. Newspapers and the radio once shaped voters’ perception of reality, but so did their church, their labor union, their trade association, and their fraternal order. Through these community institutions, citizens received information from neighbors and trusted civic leaders about the world; just as important, these institutions aggregated the preferences of their members and broadcasted this intelligence upward to political elites.
These institutions have largely receded from public life. In Diminished Democracy: From Membership to Management in American Civic Life, the political scientist Theda Skocpol writes:
That was written in 2003. Alongside the “memberless voluntary organizations” that have supplanted older modes of social organization, we can now add social media activism and parasocial relationships with various podcasters and influencers.
The relationships that people develop with social media are real, but they are also thin. They are certainly thinner than the face-to-face social bonds that they have largely replaced, especially among the low-social-trust voters who have rallied to Trump.
These sort of thin, unstable attachments are a defining feature of 21st century politics, not just in the United States but across the developed West. Social democratic parties in much of Europe have lost contact with their traditional labor base, and the parties of the center-right are being overtaken by media-savvy right-wing populists; political power swings shifts from one internally incoherent faction to another as voters opt for radical alternatives (Trump, Brexit), and then immediately experience buyer’s remorse. And phenomena that once seem to mark the beginning of a new political era, such as the 2008 ascension of the Obama coalition, fall apart as soon as their charismatic leader departs the stage.
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[...] I propose that Democrats dedicate time and money to building an alternative coalitional model that doesn’t rely exclusively on charismatic authority—one that has a firmer foundation in the sort of thick, person-to-person social attachments that used to define American civic life.
To the Democratic Party, person-to-person outreach almost always means “ground game” or get-out-the-vote efforts. But GOTV isn’t intended to reconstruct or strengthen social attachments; it’s a form of direct sales, relying on brief, goal-oriented interactions with voters. This sort of work is important, but as we saw in the 2024 election, when Harris’s GOTV effort lapped Trump’s moribund, Musk-led ground game, it can only do so much.
There is another model for direct outreach that is more intensive and open-ended than GOTV. The goal of this model is not solely getting people to vote, but converting them into active political agents. Call this the organizing model. Organized individuals become members of a team: they vote, but they also march, advocate, engage in direct action, and participate in collective decision-making. They also usually do more organizing, so as to keep growing the team.
In my previous career as a journalist, I sat on the organizing committees for two separate unionization efforts in two separate (now extinct) newsrooms; these experiences gave me both a healthy respect for the power of organizing and for the sweat, intelligence and sensitivity required to do it correctly. Today, organizing is critical—perhaps more critical than at any point since the Civil Rights movement, now that we need grassroots strength to prevent the overthrow of American democracy.
But we should not fetishize organizing, as sometimes happens on the left. Not everyone in a shared community of interest can be converted into an activist; some potentially reliable votes in a unionized workplace come from people who have neither the time nor the desire to attend after-hours meetings. The majority of voters, including most reliably partisan voters, are people who just want to earn a living, spend time with their family, and fill their leisure hours with non-political pursuits. A strategy that depends on mobilizing all of them into a vast cadre of politicized subjects isn’t going to work.
What I propose is that liberals and the left organize those who can be organized, and then direct those grassroots foot soldiers toward the goal of establishing a larger social formation: one that has a low barrier to entry but that is also connected by longer-lasting bonds than GOTV.
Free Breakfast for Children
Any organization that seeks to replace the Democratic-leaning Elks Lodge in American public life needs to look more like an Elks Lodge than a DSA meeting. With that in mind, my proposal is that the Democratic Party, along with other liberal and left-leaning organizations, should fund the creation of community centers in priority voting precincts. These centers would be managed by a combination of local volunteers and paid staff who are hired directly from the surrounding community.
These centers would be open to the public. And while the services they offer would vary based on local demand and staff capacity, they might include the following:
- Free meals and social gatherings such as potlucks.
- Happy hours and other social outings for adults.
- Free childcare and after-school programs.
- Free meals for children, especially during the summer months.
- Volunteer opportunities, such as park beautification projects and visits to food pantries.
- Board game nights, trivia nights, and intramural sports leagues.
- Watch parties for movies and major sporting events.
Another service that should be provided, if sufficient funding can be obtained: social workers to help people navigate various bureaucracies.
That’s not to say overtly political events would be entirely verboten at these community centers. The centers could serve as useful hubs and meeting places for some of the active organizing going on in the area. And the staff of these centers might sometimes invite local politicians or officials to do informal town halls. But staff would not try to compel participation in the more politically-oriented events.
Instead, all the work at these community centers would serve a very simple goal: establishing a cordial, mutually beneficial relationship between normie voters and America’s left-liberal political coalition. If this plan works, then it should be relatively easy to turn many patrons of the community centers into reliable Democratic voters without leaning on them too hard. At the same time, those patrons could serve as a vital source of information regarding the concerns and general mood of the electorate in key swing districts.
There are precedents for what I’m proposing, and not just the ones Skocpol cites in [/i]Diminished Democracy[/i]. Happy hours are an underrated ingredient in the YIMBY movement’s success; a lot of people who are mildly interested in pro-housing politics become more deeply involved once they realize how much fun YIMBY events can be. I also draw inspiration from pro-Trump evangelical churches, and from the Black Panthers’ Free Breakfast for Children program. Of the latter effort, Joshua Bloom and Waldo Martin write the following in their [/i]Black against Empire: The History and Politics of the Black Panther Party[/i]:
This passage hints at another important feature of my proposed program: its resilience to state interference. The second Trump administration will almost certainly weaponize the Department of Justice and Internal Revenue Service against large progressive nonprofits and foundations. These community centers, small and numerous as they are, would be less vulnerable to attack. Further, any attempt to destroy them would risk stoking the ire of normie voters in swing districts, who would be at risk of losing access to the benefits these centers provide. While the centers would do very little overt organizing, an overreaction from the Trump administration might inadvertently do some of their organizing for them.
An All-of-the-Above Strategy
What I am proposing is a complement to existing anti-Trump efforts. Even if my proposal were implemented at scale, we would still need conventional political campaigns, new sources of political media, and aggressive organizing efforts. Community centers can support all of these efforts and in turn be supported by them.
To take one example: Even as liberals and the left pursue an in-person, relationship-building strategy, they must avoid ceding the digital information environment to the right. Ryan Cooper is correct when he argues that Democrats must construct their own media ecosystem. But this ecosystem would not serve as an alternative to my community centers proposal; instead, the two could exist in symbiosis with one another. Left-leaning media outlets could drive new patrons to the community centers, and the community centers could introduce their existing patrons to left-leaning media outlets.
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The topic of this thread is the relationship between civil society (organized groups of citizens linked by common interests and group activity) and politics.
This topic includes, among other things: (1) the decline of various kinds of civil society groups that were once the backbone of the Democratic Party (whereas there has been less of a similar decline for Republicans), (2) the question of how Democrats and leftists can build new civil society orgs with general working-class appeal, and (3) the need for political (and related) organizing more generally.
This thread is NOT intended to include debates about specific political issues. Nor is intended for lists of specific political issues on which you may disagree with the Democratic Party. Let's discuss these in other threads.
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Some organisations that could be better interlinked in my town/state are the CFA (volunteer firefighters), SES (state emergency services), our community hub, local government services like the library, RSL (returned servicemens league) and even the local sporting organisations and schools. The local community hub does attempt to bring these together and hosts a men's shed for bringing retirees and isolated guys together (yet there is no tool library / workshop to enable centralisation and reemployment of the atrophying skills of retirees)
These do not require a political direction...that will follow naturally as sense of community escalates. These are all things I would gladly contribute time to if I was not so completely disconnected from town life.
I have only one friend who attempts to participate in town... A freemason, but he always has his fingers in so many pies that it destroys his effectiveness as a social middleman
To kokopelli: Please see my reply in the separate thread Metadiscussion re: Democrats and civil society.
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Looks like we have some confusion about the meaning of the term "civil society." From the first paragraph of the Wikipedia article on civil society:
In short, "civil society" is the aggregate of groups or institutions that people participate in (mostly voluntarily), excluding their workplace(s), or the businesses they are customers of, or government(s).
These days, here in the U.S.A., many people do not participate in any civil society organizations, which is different from how things were back in the 1950's, when, for example, nearly everyone attended church and nearly all parents of school-age kids went to PTA meetings.
This thread is intended to be about the role of civil society organizations in politics -- including organizations (e.g. labor unions) that aren't specifically political, but may have political interests.
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From the Encyclopedia Britannica article on civil society:
This modern definition of civil society has become a familiar component of the main strands of contemporary liberal and democratic theorizing. In addition to its descriptive properties, the terminology of civil society carries a litany of ethical and political aspirations and implications. For some of its advocates, the achievement of an independent civil society is a necessary precondition for a healthy democracy, and its relative absence or decline is often cited as both a cause and an effect of various contemporary sociopolitical maladies.
The article then discusses the history of the concept and various philosophical disagreements about it.
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In the separate thread 1902 New York riot that sparked Jewish-American activism, ASPartOfMe has just now posted a good example of the relevance of non-political civil society organizations to politics:
What happened next would be a watershed in Jewish political and communal activism for a community riven by internal divisions: A day after the violence, various leaders formed the East Side Vigilance League to demand a fair investigation and punishment for the offending officers.
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Over the next few months, the calls for justice would be surprisingly and unprecedentedly effective. Until then, Jews had little recourse against the largely Irish police who disdained them. But NYC Mayor Seth Low, narrowly elected on a reform platform aimed at the corrupt Democratic machine known as Tammany Hall, was sympathetic to the Jews who helped turn out the vote.
Because Jews were already organized non-politically (via their synagogues), they were easily able to organize politically, as well, to (1) help "turn out the vote" for Seth Low, and then (2) organize the East Side Vigilance League, which successfully lobbied the new mayor to defend their rights.
Similarly, Black churches have played a key role in helping to organize the Black civil rights movement. It is no accident that the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King was a pastor.
Other non-political organizations besides religious groups have played key roles in the creation of political groups/movements too.
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