Feel stuck/lack of progress? Unrealistic expectations?

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I feel pretty good about my life and this will be my final post on this thread.
Some of you my have noticed another thread I started about feeling good.

If you want to continue posting on this thread, that's your business.
Maybe you have your own issues that are unresolved and find it therapeutic for yourselves?

I'm out. (and smiling)

If you read back through the thread carefully, you will find that people only addressed points that you yourself brought up. I’m sure it’s nicer for the ego to assume that other people are the problem, but as it stands, your behavior here is pretty transparent. If you don’t truly want feedback, other people’s opinions on your work, or criticism, next time you might want to make that clear or post in The Haven.

Many people here can recognize ad hominem or other manipulative behaviors when they see it. Just something to keep in mind for the future.

Another funny comment from the guy vehemently defending themselves.

Projecting again?

Or maybe just trolling at this point.

At any rate, yeah, it's wild how people get "defensive" when you accuse them of things like having unresolved issues or ambition-based jealousy just cos they don't buy into your fantasy.

I'll post again because I'm a bit bored and this thread seemed to generate some reaction. (which to me is a good sign)

You're incorrect that people only addressed points that I brought up. You brought up my personal life.
I never mentioned that in this thread. It's odd to cherry pick a separate thread like that.
You talk about ad hominem and manipulation yet you are behaving exactly in that manner.
You stated ' You’ve also stated in other threads that you aren’t interested in dating until you become prosperous.'

That's a very reasonable and healthy way to look at things. A man is much more attractive when he is in a strong financial position. As a man, I feel much better about dating when I am succeeding financially. Plus, I'd never want to bring a child into the world until I'm financially secure. That's a very responsible way of looking at things.

You may not understand this, but what I said is actually very reasonable.

Furthermore, you seem to think it's unreasonable I will sell my project. You stated:
I’m saying again that your expectations for this particular script are unrealistic.

That's fine for you to believe that. But have you ever worked in tv/film?
I'll re-post some positive reviews of my script. These are from people who have worked in the industry.

“Gregory” has a wide cast of characters. Protagonist is a mysterious personality that keeps us engaged until the end, and then leaves us wondering, “What’s next?” We can root for him through his journey. His traits resonate well with his actions. Greg/Andrew has a strong character arc that carries this episode well, and the stakes are high throughout. In addition, Chris is a strong supporting character. The reader felt that the way Greg's relationship plays out with Kristina is unpredictable, and it's NOT easy to see what's going to happen.

The setting is intriguing and well created. There are some spectacular locations and events. The writer spends much of the script with the characters. This is helpful in establishing them as people. We know when the acts begin and end, so this aspect does not need much tweaking. The pacing and rhythm are good in this script too. Some parts of this script were beautiful to read and you have a natural voice for narrative writing.

The concept is bright, it just needs help through the characters, however, they have distinct individual personalities. Try to develop them a little more, and this will help the concept embolden. There are ripe character roles for diverse, high value talent and this has potential on VOD or streaming platforms with star attachments.

The overall script has a lot of great qualities that add to the world to the script. The audience would have an easy time resonating with this script, because of the external narratives each of the characters present. There is a large audience for a story like this with dramatic, action and adventure elements to broaden the script's appeal.

None the less your tone of writing and the diction you choose create a visually beautiful story. With some revisions, this script will make an excellent series.

Also from Xkalybr Films - Danny Arroyo

Break a leg, Greg. There will be many production companies out there who will love to option your work.

You want me to take your points seriously but aren't involved in the field I'm interested in.

Yet I'm getting good feedback that matters to me from people in tv/film.

Hmmm...

I'm in touch with one and spoke with them for over 15 min yesterday.
They can help you pitch your show.

If you read up on what entertainment lawyers do, you can find some answers even if you don't want to take my word for it.

The reason why I brought up your personal life was not to attack you but to demonstrate yet another way that you are putting your life on hold for something that won’t materialize. It was an attempt to help you because I think it’s really sad to miss out on opportunities and life. There’s so much waste in this world.

There are a lot of women out there who don’t care all that much about money. You might be missing out by waiting until you “make it big” when that probably won’t happen. I know that you talked about being on disability. There’s nothing wrong with that whatsoever. That’s not to say that you can’t explore interests and work towards achieving goals, but I think there’s something to be said for being realistic, too.

As far as your script goes, receiving some positive feedback does not mean that you will achieve success. Maybe the person was trying to spare your feelings for some reason. I don’t think the plot, dialogue, or character development are strong enough. I could share other issues I have with it if you’re interested. I’ve not wanted to say too much because I don’t want to cause hurt feelings. That’s not to say that you don’t have any potential. I just think you need to keep on working at it…or music. Expecting to make 6 or 7 figures on something that seems like it took you just a couple hours to write is not realistic. Once again, it seems like you want the rewards without putting in a lot of work. I’m not referring to trying to sell a script when I say that. I mean growing as a writer. Having said that, I do think your piano playing is much stronger. It might make more sense to focus on that.

Having a goal that you believe in brings joy. Do you personally have a writing goal you are working towards?
I am genuinely looking forward to tomorrow when I expect to hear from an entertainment firm to further discuss my project.

I think your comment about my personal life is unwarranted, but perhaps it's just a symptom of you spending an inordinate amount of time in this forum. (your posting history indicates you post nearly 10 times per day)

You know nothing about my personal life history nor what it is like to be a man.
Perhaps you can learn from my ambition and use it in your own life to work on your own goals.

I sure as hell don't want to be on disability for the rest of my life.

You mention the word 'realistic' often.
What is realistic for you or someone else is not necessarily realistic for me and vice versa.

Let's be blunt. If (when IMO) I earn a tidy sum from my project, will that make you self reflect?
You have no influence on the outcome either and I suspect that bothers you at least to some extent.

My advice to you is to focus on your own dream.

Thank-you for your appreciation of my piano playing. If I want to continue playing the piano I can do so.
I have no direct path to income playing. I've played on cruise lines, hotels, taught lessons, etc etc etc.

Going back to that is not of interest to me whatsoever right now. Earning a nice paycheque from my tv pilot is.

Engaging with you or posting frequently on this forum says nothing about my own dreams, aspirations, or ambitions. This thread is not about me. I’ve not shared my own projects or asked people to read stuff that I’ve written nor did I ask for opinions on my work or if my expectations were unrealistic. It seems like you are, yet again, trying to shift the focus in a manipulative way.

It’s always good to have goals. I just think there’s something to be said for setting manageable goals and being realistic. Admitting that one needs to improve and grow or even admitting that a goal might be unattainable and that it’s time to shift the focus does not mean that one lacks confidence or doesn’t believe in themselves. It’s pretty much the opposite. You need confidence to do those things. It’s not a sign of weakness but strength.

FWIW, I'm not really sure what the point of this thread really was. If you're not going to reconsider how you're going about this, and there isn't anything for others to learn, and you're just getting super defensive about some pretty supportive feedback and then putting emotions into other people's heads.

As far as you're success goes, I think it's safe to bet that most, if not all, of the folks in this thread would be happy you did. But, just know that the odds are long to sell one to begin with and even longer if you're not willing to develop other projects as well. Things like good writing take time and very few people hit it out of the ballpark on their first go. Most of the "overnight" successes have spent years working on as many projects as it takes to become a big thing.

I wish you luck, but I really and truly don't understand the whole point of posting any of this.

Posting frequently on the forum says you have a lot of idle time.

You mention manipulation and it's funny. I shared a positive review of my project and your response was to suggest
'receiving some positive feedback does not mean that you will achieve success. Maybe the person was trying to spare your feelings for some reason'

The second part of your comments obviously are your manipulative attempt to dumb down the positive review I have.

The tone in your posts is always the same. What you're repeating again and again is 'you won't sell it, it's unrealistic'
and then you make me laugh because you want to belittle the positive review. It's as if you can't accept it for what it is, so you have to make it work in your mind.

So, for someone who talks about manipulation - I suggest you reflect on why you are on this thread.
You can't manipulate me. Impossible.

I'm the one with a goal and even if it doesn't work out, I have my whole life in front of me to try different things.

I think that it may be healthy for you to recognize there are people who have developed their own projects like myself and who have potential to breakthrough and earn a living from them.

And if that makes you uncomfortable in any way, that's on you. It has nothing to do with me.

I’m perfectly comfortable, but I appreciate your concern.

A positive review is all well and good, but the reality is that it’s just one review. You’ve been trying to sell the script for ten years. It seems like while one person may have liked it many more didn’t. Saying that the reviewer may have been trying to spare your feelings wasn’t an attempt at manipulation but, rather, what seemed to be a possible explanation to me as someone who read the script. I didn’t say that it was definitely the case; it was more like a possibility. My overall point is that focusing on one positive review at the exclusion of all other evidence you’ve received might not be a sound idea, especially not if it’s keeping you from progressing with your writing or from achieving other goals.

I have no trouble recognizing that people have projects and that some of those projects have the potential to be successful. It would be illogical to think otherwise. This thread is about your project and the way you approach goals.

It's not entirely accurate to say I've been trying to sell it for 10 years.
I've been somewhat active pursuing it, but in terms of direct opportunities where a potential buyer is in front of me?
I haven't had any, basically. That's why I am getting involved with an entertainment attourney. To facilitate this process.

There's a saying 'There's no such thing as an overnight success'.
So, for the people who don't understand what I've experienced, they may think 'You've been trying to sell it for 10 years and failed'. That's a misjudgement. It's not accurate.

As for any review affecting my feelings - my skin is thicker than most. I am not affected by the harshest, most critical reviews. I've read the odd poor review and they make me laugh.

I have other positive reviews as well.

If you feel all of the feedback you're receiving here isn't informed enough to be worthwhile, why keep engaging with it?

Best wishes on your screen play autism123.....

I'm not suggesting anyone who's giving him feedback that he considers uninformed or useless is uninformed or incapable of providing useful feedback; instead I'm ignoring that discussion entirely and just focusing on how unappreciated advice is responded to and where one invests their mental energy.

Awhile back I was posting raps I wrote and one of the first people to respond left some snarky comments about how it looked like "some sort of rappers screed". My options to were ignore the response entirely, engage with it or tell that person to piss off because they can't insult the output by telling me it looks like exactly what it was intended to look like.

Engaging with that feedback wouldn't have ever become productive. If a critic is giving a creator feedback that the creator doesn't feel is constructive in any manner there's little point in getting into a deeper discussion with that critic. It doesn't mean the creator is correct in their assessment of the criticism, it doesn't mean the criticism is objectively not constructive, but if one feels like all the criticism they're receiving is just haters gonna hate, why invest effort in bickering with the critic when ultimately the creator can just reinvest their effort into completing the project and proving "the haters" wrong.

@Jakki
Thanks Jakki

@Funeralxempire
I'm here for social reasons too. It's a form of interaction.
Anyone can engage with their critics and also prove them wrong.
Or ignore them and prove them wrong. There is no right/wrong way of going about it.

@MatchboxVagabond
Thanks for adding your thoughts to the discussion. I've read all of your posts.

@TwilightPrincess
Another thing for you to consider is that tv shows aren't necessarily sold on the basis of their scripts.
In fact, you don't necessarily need one. All you need is a good pitch. It's about selling to the network.
They will pick up an idea if they like it. You seem overly concerned with the script I have without understanding
the fact there is more to getting a tv show sold than that. This is not a script I'm submitting for an English class.
This is an idea and they are buying into my enthusiasm and vision as much as the script I have - (which can be revised down the road easily anyways)