Feel stuck/lack of progress? Unrealistic expectations?
I on the other hand have shared my identity. You are making comments about me and I have a fairly thick skin, so I'm not too easily affected.
You don’t appear to have a thick skin based on your behavior in this thread. Most people will likely assume that you aren’t very good at taking criticism given your defensiveness and use of ad hominem. I just feel like I should say that because awareness about how you come across may be useful in terms of future goals.
Further, it’s perfectly reasonable for folks to choose to stand up for themselves when insinuations and accusations are made. It might be a good idea to avoid making insinuations and accusations towards critics in the future because it doesn’t reflect well on you. I’m sure you know that image is very important in the entertainment industry, especially when you are just trying to get your foot in the door.
I have an idea that I have believed in. Whether random people online think I accept criticism (their opinion only) is irrelevant to that. Maybe the idea won't work out for me. Maybe I should accept that. But it has been difficult. Especially when it dominates your mind and when you see signs in your day to day life that it can be realized.
If you feel a certain way about something, it can be hard to change that.
My image is fine as far as I'm concerned. I have no criminal record. I'm a good person. Trump can be POTUS despite his history. Why should I worry if a few people online think I've rubbed them the wrong way?
No one is going to read this thread beyond the handful of people at WP and the thread can be deleted anyways if I request it
I'm sure. If you think any way I've behaved on the thread is going to impact me, I think that's crazy TBH. Sounds like you're trying to guilt me for not accepting all of your comments. Kind of manipulative.
^ It seems likely that the way you behaved here is not an anomaly. You stated that you laughed at criticism earlier in the thread, so it seems probable that your behavior here is part of a broader pattern. I’m just pointing it out because it may be a worthwhile thing to work on.
Have you read many scripts? For that matter, have you studied the art of writing or script-writing in any capacity?
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Have you read many scripts? For that matter, have you studied the art of writing or script-writing in any capacity?
I have a question for you. To cherry pick a comment not relate to a thread - snooping into a posters history as you did with me to comment on my personal life..
Is that a symptom of the inordinate amount of time you spend on WP? Notice I'm not judging, I'm stating a fact because your posting history indicates you post 10 times daily. That to me seems almost obsessive and unhealthy.
Answer my question first before I answer yours.
^ There you go trying to shift the focus again. Claiming that the amount of time I spend on here is “obsessive and unhealthy” clearly demonstrates to me and probably anyone else reading this thread that you ARE judging. My participation in forum games and posting music has driven my post count up. Neither of those things require a lot of time or effort.
There are very few active members right now. I didn’t snoop in anyone’s history. I just recall seeing that as well as an appeal to Alex to read your script. It made me wonder if that was your main purpose in joining WP and if it contributed to your behavior here when things didn’t go your way.
Once again, have you read many scripts? Or have you studied the art of writing or script-writing in any capacity?
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“Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.” — Satan and TwilightPrincess
There are very few active members right now. I didn’t snoop in anyone’s history. I just recall seeing that as well as an appeal to Alex to read your script. It made me wonder if that was your main purpose in joining WP and if it contributed to your behavior here when things didn’t go your way.
Once again, have you read many scripts? Or have you studied the art of writing or script-writing in any capacity?
What are you trying to say about me joining WP? I have a right to be here. I haven't violated any rules.
I have an autism diagnosis and that's how I came across this forum. I had no idea who Alex was before I joined.
What are you trying to say about things not going my way?
I have read a very small number of scripts. I don't particularly enjoy the aspect of reading new scripts. I don't enjoy editing my own which is why I've been reluctant to make further changes. I know of the criticisms of my script. Some say I need to 'show, not tell'. Some say the initial dream sequences are confusing. I kind of agree with that, but if the reader pays close attention, they can follow along and see what is happening. Some say the dialogue is bland. Maybe. It is what it is.
I know I'm articulate and a competent writer. I understand basic grammar and my vocabulary is above average.
I can communicate well. My prose is ok in my view.
I have studied script formatting and as far as I can tell, I have the format for a pilot down well. I have the teaser and the series of acts structured properly.
I'm not interested in further studying scripts. It would be interesting if Alex from WP would read my script.
It would be interesting to see if he would want to help develop the project. Haven't heard from him though.
That's up to him. He's just one person at the end of the day.
It doesn’t seem like you are dedicated enough to achieve the goals you have set for yourself.
Obviously, we all want to make money, but being so focused on that that you aren’t interested in dedicated study, practice, and personal growth is likely holding you back from getting where you need to be to make money. “Okay” is NOT good enough, especially not for someone who is just starting out. Why would they be interested in buying your script or your idea when they likely receive similar quality work on a daily basis from other people?
I just find it very puzzling.
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“Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.” — Satan and TwilightPrincess
Obviously, we all want to make money, but being so focused on that that you aren’t interested in dedicated study and personal growth is likely holding you back from getting where you need to be to make money. “Okay” is NOT good enough, especially not for someone who is just starting out. Why would they be interested in buying your script or your idea when they receive similar quality work on a daily basis from other people?
I just find it very puzzling.
It's the overall idea. You are overly focused on the script, but you don't understand the vision I have for the series.
You just see a script you think is average or even worse. You couldn't tell me where the series goes after the pilot episode.
I have long believed that my vision has the intangible factor.
As I’ve stated before, I don’t think the idea is strong enough. Expecting to pitch an underwhelming product, especially as a new person on the scene is unrealistic.
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You don't understand it well enough. A weak criticism is hardly useful.
What is the idea to you?
Have you read many scripts? For that matter, have you studied the art of writing or script-writing in any capacity?
I have a question for you. To cherry pick a comment not relate to a thread - snooping into a posters history as you did with me to comment on my personal life..
Is that a symptom of the inordinate amount of time you spend on WP? Notice I'm not judging, I'm stating a fact because your posting history indicates you post 10 times daily. That to me seems almost obsessive and unhealthy.
Answer my question first before I answer yours.
So it's "snooping" for TP to look at your open and public posts that you've made here, but it's not "snooping" for you to look up and calculate her post count per day?
Stating a fact would be "you've posted here 10 times". Implying that those 10 times constitutes "inordinate", "obsessive" or "unhealthy", are very much judgements.
Furthermore, another consideration, to both judging people's post count, and judging people's motivation levels: Some members here have sufficient difficulties with physical and mental health, that many people simply can't lead the lives they want, and can't do much except exist online.
In the case of people who are so disabled that they can't lead the lives they want, throwing it in their face that you're ever so motivated, and they just lack motivation, it makes you seem very unflattering, and maybe a wee bit cruel. Same goes for people who are so disabled that all they can do is live at home and browse the internet. Likewise, telling them to go out and chase their dreams is a bit cruel.
To my knowledge, neither TP nor I have such issues - but you wouldn't have known that at the time when you first started hurling those insults - and even if not applicable to us, it still applies to others, and it's a very tone-deaf thing to be saying here.
And that's aside from the fact that 10 posts are pretty easy to create, particularly in the forum games section, where 10 posts takes about 5 minutes, and hardly represents an obsession. And the fact that it's possible to post here, WHILE doing other things.
Fun fact! So far, you've already made 10 posts today. Yesterday you made 18. You made 9 the day before that. And you made 15 the day before that. It's pretty common for you to post up to 10 times a day.
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I on the other hand have shared my identity. You are making comments about me and I have a fairly thick skin, so I'm not too easily affected.
In regards to your comments about the law firm - it is what it is. My work is completely original and is copyrighted. In theory the law firm could take 15 minutes (10 minutes actually) to read the script and use their network of contacts to seek a buyer.
And then help negotiate.
That is possible in theory. And they could potentially earn much more from the commission of the sale of a script.
This is not how they choose to operate though and I'm not sure they'll ever get my business.
Not knowing me hasn't stopped you from declaring things about me as though you know me. I do take online comments personally, when they're personally directed at me, as yours have been. Given that you meant them personally, since you directed them at me, personally, I don't see the issue.
People who have thick skin don't usually have a need to repeatedly tell everyone else that they have a thick skin. But I like how you're trying to use the statement as a means to try to cajole me into desirable behavior - using "thick skin" as a placeholder for "let me talk trash about you with immunity!". Thick skin or not, I also have pride, and don't just let people say what they want about me without also speaking up.
So you DID expect the law firm to sell your script for you lol. Not only is that not their job - they're lawyers, not salespeople - but it would be a conflict of interest for them to do so. That's why agents exist. If law firms went out and secured contracts in addition to negotiating them, there would be a moral hazard in the form of an incentive to over-value the items they sell, or just sell garbage, for their percentage of the sale profits, even if the product turned out to be garbage.
Being law firms, they already know that, and avoid engaging in both selling and negotiating, so as to avoid any liability which may occur.
So they kinda have a valid reason for not operating the way your imagination desires them to.
You don't understand it well enough. A weak criticism is hardly useful.
What is the idea to you?
I wrote out a response, but I realized that posting it might be a bit unfair given that you’ve claimed that it’s all about the pitch. (I disagree with that sentiment, but for argument’s sake, let’s go with that for now.) Before posting my criticism, which I saved as a rough draft, I’d like to know what you would pitch to a potential buyer, just in case any of my criticism is missing the mark for whatever reason due to insufficient information. An abridged version of the pitch would be cool - even just a few sentences.
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“Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.” — Satan and TwilightPrincess
You don't understand it well enough. A weak criticism is hardly useful.
What is the idea to you?
I wrote out a response, but I realized that posting it might be a bit unfair given that you’ve claimed that it’s all about the pitch. (I disagree with that sentiment, but for argument’s sake, let’s go with that for now.) Before posting my criticism, which I saved as a rough draft, I’d like to know what you would pitch to a potential buyer, just in case any of my criticism is missing the mark for whatever reason due to insufficient information. An abridged version of the pitch would be cool - even just a few sentences.
Nah I don't want to. I'm getting sick of this thread. It's just you and the other poster trying to argue with me.
For someone who says my script is no good, you don't have any meaningful comments to back up your claim.
Post your critique if you are so confident. I don't owe anyone here any explanation. It's my project.
Neither of you are buying my project anyways which makes this a waste of time. I asked for this thread to be locked and/or deleted. It's no longer productive.
What is the idea to you?
I wrote out a response, but I realized that posting it might be a bit unfair given that you’ve claimed that it’s all about the pitch. (I disagree with that sentiment, but for argument’s sake, let’s go with that for now.) Before posting my criticism, which I saved as a rough draft, I’d like to know what you would pitch to a potential buyer, just in case any of my criticism is missing the mark for whatever reason due to insufficient information. An abridged version of the pitch would be cool - even just a few sentences.
Nah I don't want to. I'm getting sick of this thread. It's just you and the other poster trying to argue with me.
For someone who says my script is no good, you don't have any meaningful comments to back up your claim.
Post your critique if you are so confident. I don't owe anyone here any explanation. It's my project.
Neither of you are buying my project anyways which makes this a waste of time. I asked for this thread to be locked and/or deleted. It's no longer productive.
Then why keep posting? You said you were done with the thread ages ago. Again, I can't say that I really care, but the train wreck is a bit much to stay away from.
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