I am a member of a movement, what do you think about it
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Starting a city just takes people forming one. I don't know what kind of procedures would be required, but new villages/towns/cities are formed from time to time.
Keep in mind that you cannot discriminate against anyone to keep them out.
The bigger problem is that of buying the property and building homes. Don't expect anyone else to provide those for you.
The biggest problem would be creating the economic conditions to make it a going concern. Even if you can find enough people with the finances to buy the property and build their homes, that doesn't mean that anyone is going to put in stores and hire people. In my community (not a village/town/city) with a population of 30 to 40 people, depending on how you count them, and covering about 50 square miles, there are no stores and businesses other than farms and ranches, many of which will be incorporated. The total number of employees outside of their own families is, I think, 2.
To me, the whole idea is relatively dumb.
Better yet would be to find jobs in existing small towns and rural areas and move there, but be prepared to fit in. If you keep yourself aloof, you probably won't be accepted very quickly at all.
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Even if you form your own city, you would still be fully subject to county, state, and federal regulations and laws.
Keep in mind that you cannot discriminate against anyone to keep them out.
The bigger problem is that of buying the property and building homes. Don't expect anyone else to provide those for you.
The biggest problem would be creating the economic conditions to make it a going concern. Even if you can find enough people with the finances to buy the property and build their homes, that doesn't mean that anyone is going to put in stores and hire people. In my community (not a village/town/city) with a population of 30 to 40 people, depending on how you count them, and covering about 50 square miles, there are no stores and businesses other than farms and ranches, many of which will be incorporated. The total number of employees outside of their own families is, I think, 2.
To me, the whole idea is relatively dumb.
Better yet would be to find jobs in existing small towns and rural areas and move there, but be prepared to fit in. If you keep yourself aloof, you probably won't be accepted very quickly at all.
That's the current plan, there is a town in Pennsylvania we want to immigrate to due to cheap housing + nature
Being autistic doesn't rule out other traits like psychopathic tendencies. Just because an autistic is a bully doesn't mean he/she is a bully because of the autism. I get along better with autistics and I prefer an autistic "bad guy" over an allistic one.
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Personally, I wouldn't be against the idea of having a community where only autistic people would live. But you would have to have a clear goal as to what it would look like and how a society of all autistic people would work. Especially if people have different forms of it, does that mean you have one area for one kind and another area for another kind?
Being autistic doesn't rule out other traits like psychopathic tendencies. Just because an autistic is a bully doesn't mean he/she is a bully because of the autism.
I wasn’t claiming that autistics bully because of their autism. My point was that autistics aren’t above engaging in the same behaviors as other humans. Some of that behavior can be incredibly harmful. Sexual harassment, for example, isn’t less bad coming from an autistic person than from a NT.
Overall, I’ve experienced a fair amount of s**t behavior from autistics and don’t hold them in a higher regard than anyone else. People are people.
Even if you form your own city, you would still be fully subject to county, state, and federal regulations and laws.
sure, if you made it in America. But there must be some country on earth where they let you do this, or an island, or a group of ships in international waters
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Even if you form your own city, you would still be fully subject to county, state, and federal regulations and laws.
sure, if you made it in America. But there must be some country on earth where they let you do this, or an island, or a group of ships in international waters
Seasteading isn't viable.
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Keep in mind that you cannot discriminate against anyone to keep them out.
The bigger problem is that of buying the property and building homes. Don't expect anyone else to provide those for you.
The biggest problem would be creating the economic conditions to make it a going concern. Even if you can find enough people with the finances to buy the property and build their homes, that doesn't mean that anyone is going to put in stores and hire people. In my community (not a village/town/city) with a population of 30 to 40 people, depending on how you count them, and covering about 50 square miles, there are no stores and businesses other than farms and ranches, many of which will be incorporated. The total number of employees outside of their own families is, I think, 2.
To me, the whole idea is relatively dumb.
Better yet would be to find jobs in existing small towns and rural areas and move there, but be prepared to fit in. If you keep yourself aloof, you probably won't be accepted very quickly at all.
That's the current plan, there is a town in Pennsylvania we want to immigrate to due to cheap housing + nature
Does your target location have one or more excellent hospitals nearby?
A town with a significant portion of the population being Autistic and with good medical care could possibly adjust to be friendly to Autistics.
I think having a town with a high percentage of HFA could be helpful. Businesses and government offices would be more likely to learn how to serve the HFA community's needs.
But I'm old. I'm interested in an area where I can get good senior care and good medical care. However, there are some good hospitals in Pennsylvania. Do you know if you'll be near one?
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I finally knew why people were strange.
Keep in mind that you cannot discriminate against anyone to keep them out.
The bigger problem is that of buying the property and building homes. Don't expect anyone else to provide those for you.
The biggest problem would be creating the economic conditions to make it a going concern. Even if you can find enough people with the finances to buy the property and build their homes, that doesn't mean that anyone is going to put in stores and hire people. In my community (not a village/town/city) with a population of 30 to 40 people, depending on how you count them, and covering about 50 square miles, there are no stores and businesses other than farms and ranches, many of which will be incorporated. The total number of employees outside of their own families is, I think, 2.
To me, the whole idea is relatively dumb.
Better yet would be to find jobs in existing small towns and rural areas and move there, but be prepared to fit in. If you keep yourself aloof, you probably won't be accepted very quickly at all.
That's the current plan, there is a town in Pennsylvania we want to immigrate to due to cheap housing + nature
Does your target location have one or more excellent hospitals nearby?
A town with a significant portion of the population being Autistic and with good medical care could possibly adjust to be friendly to Autistics.
I think having a town with a high percentage of HFA could be helpful. Businesses and government offices would be more likely to learn how to serve the HFA community's needs.
But I'm old. I'm interested in an area where I can get good senior care and good medical care. However, there are some good hospitals in Pennsylvania. Do you know if you'll be near one?
It's Emporium Pennsylvania. I wouldn't say there are excellent hospitals nearby, but there is a clinic in town and a hospital within 20 minutes
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One site that is nice for comparing different towns and cities is https://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/
You can enter two cities and compare them on a variety of criteria
In many ways, they are like m hometown.
There are few things that would draw concern. One is that the median age in Emporium is more than 16 years older than here. That tells me that the younger people are probably having to move away to find work.
Another thing that would be concerning to me is that the unemployment rate is 8.9% which is higher than average for the US of 6% Future job grown is shown as 11.3% compared to 33.5% for the whole US.
Even though the overall cost of living in Emporium is slightly higher than my hometown, the housing cost if significantly lower than here. It shows that the median home cost is $67,000. The population since 2000 has dropped by just less than 30% and so there is not likely to be as much demand for the housing. It would be hard to find better housing prices than that.
The only review on the site says:
So be sure and check it out. Go in with your eyes wide open. It has some good points and some bad points. The most important thing, I think, is the jobs outlook in the area. It may be beautiful, but remember that you can't eat beauty.
Wow I got a lot of replies, I'll try to respond to them all now
I also won't be responding to the comments RattyBoBatty responded to because, well, he already responded to them
The city government once we're financially advanced enough
Extreme bruh moment, we have a channel called #why-we-fight in the Discord and while I don't have access to Discord atm I'll link some of the stuff posted there when I can
Such problems exist no less in allistic society - in fact they are more prominent due to the presence of allists who are completely opposed to us.
85% unemployment rate
Disclosure: I am also part of the group and saw this post
I'll guess you're NSG. Whoever you are, hi
We have safeguards in place to protect against toxic people infiltrating the leadership of the group, but really, as RattyBoBatty said, as long as people aren't violent or destructive we should help them.
We have no plans to ask for anything. Our current plan is to repopulate a dying city.
Some of us already have.
This is because of allistic-oriented society.
Things would quickly collapse into anarchy and probably avoidable deaths
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Religion and race do not inherently influence your behavior, your worldview, how you exist in a society, etc. Neurotype inherently does.
De jure, certainly. De facto we could be largely independent.
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Exactly
That is infeasible atm but it would be a nice goal for the future. For now, we're putting aside our other beliefs to build this city, which is more important than any of our other ideas.
Overall, I’ve experienced a fair amount of s**t behavior from autistics and don’t hold them in a higher regard than anyone else. People are people.
Every demographic can engage in harmful behaviors. That's not the point. The point of the Double Empathy Theory is that we can empathize and connect with each other more than we can allistics or vice versa.
Thanks for this website, it may be quite useful.
That's good for us, our goal is to repopulate it. Little allistic immigration and an old median age means that the existing allistic population will probably either disappear or become irrelevant shortly.
Another good thing for us, we can take the jobs.
We are actually planning to buy a very large house there for roughly that price once we've saved up the money. That's the primary reason we chose Emporium.
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