I am a member of a movement, what do you think about it

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I don't see anything bigger than like a neighborhood making any sense at all. There's plenty of other groups that have tried this over the years and I can't think of any of them that actually succeeded. Probably the one that did were the various free black towns of the South prior to the Civil War, but even there, the level of general development was lower and it wasn't so much that they went off to start towns as it was being excluded from most other areas in the region.

Separatism doesn't really ever end well, and either you're permanently separate or at some point there has to be a reunification. And, I think at this point, it really would be both a lot less work and a lot more realistic to make companies that are more centered around autistic and ND friendly practices than trying to set up an entire city. Even if you start with a pre-existing town that's in the process of being abandoned, there are so many problems with that. Setting up utilities is not cheap.

Like which?


A neurotype-built society would likely succeed more than a society based on aspects which do not innately affect your worldview, behavior etc


Greece? Baltic countries? Tunisia? Malta? There are more examples, these are just some I listed.


The point of the movement is permanent separation.


The only companies that are successful are those that will make the most money for a government or in cases like South Korea, the USA, and Russia, those that can control a government. An autist-oriented company would not be successful enough to make a difference.


We never said this would be an easy process, on the contrary, it'll be quite a struggle. But it is a feasible and righteous struggle and because we are a committed movement which can attain the resources and funding to do so, we have the capability to build a new homeland for ourselves.

Here's an example of a city that they tried to start for gay people: https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/r ... k-gay-town It didn't work and it didn't have the same sort of issues that one being developed for autistic people would. Executive functioning is a real problem, especially if you have to be the ones doing everything. It's just the first example, but the fact that there aren't cities like that should really be a bit of an indication of just how bad the idea is.

A neurotype built society would crash and burn pretty quickly just because there are a lot of challenges that are independent of how the society is structured. Building cities is extremely hard even if you're not being so stuck on homogeneity. Cities do from time to time go bankrupt and get reabsorbed into the county. There's one near me that may wind up doing that if they can't find the money to pay a developer back for renegging on a contract.

Tunisia is the only one on your list that seems to be actually lacking in diversity. So, not really a great set of examples for separatism working when some of these countries have a significant amount of diversity.

As far as companies go, that's a bit of BS right there, there are plenty of ways in which companies can be successful without making the most money for a government. Any business that generates enough revenue to cover its obligations and remain in business is a success, although admittedly more money makes it easier to remain in business for the long term.

You're certainly entitled to your views, I just don't think there's going to be much support here and the whole thing is just an incredibly bad idea.

Another obvious problem is what to do with the NT population in that area that dont want to leave?

Who says they should leave

You would have to evict them forcefully causing all sorts of human rights and legal issues.

Or build a city that’s would cost billions that you would have to beg the gov for

Ask Trump see what he thinks

The whole thing is so absurd and diabolical i can be hardly bothered to respond to this thread. Maybe I’m bored.

It’s really an indication of how deep assimilationist thought has been ingrained into autists since we were born.


Every single society that exists today is built around a neurotype, and every single one happens to be built around the allistic neurotype.


I thought you were talking about in general, lol.


Look at successful companies in the world today, also look at the most influential organizations relating to autism today. Most are anti-autistic, whether they’re known for it (like A$) or not (like Samsung).


They don’t have to leave per se, but I don’t imagine they’d want to stay. It’s ultimately their choice though.


Did you genuinely read any of the other responses in this thread? If you did, what makes you think repopulating a small, dying town will take billions of dollars?

I’m not sure about an autism only city. If humanity ever hopes to evolve, I think finding common ground where everyone can intermingle in ways that feel safe would be a better way of being.

I hope that technology will bring more balance by reimagining community living spaces with accessibility for everyone and no one left behind. Everyone matters.

The past can’t be changed but the future is a blank page. How will we work together for the betterment of humanity? How can we evolve together? These are the questions I dream about each day.

Overall I like the concept. I wouldn't think NTs in the target area would be driven out but just rather find that a surprisingly increasing number of folk in the area are Autistic. And that demographic should help local government and businesses adapt to better serve the Autistic community.

I'm not sure what financial level Autistics you are targeting. Some Autistics have more money than others. I would think Autistics at all financial levels could benefit from your scheme...because there would be a high-enough concentration of Autistics to attract support tailored for them. I'm a high-functioning Autistic who retired comfortably in 2011; is your goal to attract folk like me, as well?

And I think Pennsylvania is a good choice. I was born and raised in Pennsylvania and know that it really does have experience with subcultures that are different. (Think "Amish Country". It is a nice place to visit and cars even share roads with horse-and-buggies—who stay off to the side as much as possible to avoid traffic problems. And, yes, I realize Emporium is not in Pennsylvania Dutch Country...but I am optimistic enough to believe all of Pennsylvania might be a good home for the Autistic experiment.)

But, unfortunately, I'm concerned Emporium would not work for us (my bride and I). We're both 70 and have health issues (for instance, in my case, I have some "aftermarket parts" in my heart). Are there excellent hospitals within 30 minutes of the location? We currently get much of our medical care at a world-famous hospital that is about 30-minutes from our home. What does the Emporium area offer for extreme medical care? (Cardiology and oncology, for a start.) Good facilities for senior care?

When transportation was limited, industries building remote plants had to build houses for their employees and so they would build a camp and most people who worked there would live in the camps.

There were two oil and gas company camps close to the community in which I grew up. The two camps were about 1/4 mile apart and so that simplified things.

The smaller camp was only residential houses. The larger camp included a community hall, a store, a church, and a baseball field.

To be able to live in the camp, you had to work for that oil company. And it was easy walking distance from houses in each camp to their associated plant.

The smaller camp disappeared in the mid 1960s. I drove by one day and every house had been moved out. They didn't demolish them -- they moved them to nearby towns. I never did hear the exact reason for them to do that.

The other camp ran into problems with water and so they sold the houses to people cheap and encouraged them to move them elsewhere. My oldest brother used to live there for a few years and loved it even though by that time, there were only two houses left. He eventually moved his house out to the family farm and it is still there.

The point is that it is possible to build a small town, but it takes some deep pockets and a real reason to do so. The oil companies did it because they needed places nearby for the employees to live. And, of course, every house had at least one household member with a good paying full time job.

I saw a mention of buying a large house in Emporium.

A relative of mine bought a historical mansion a few years ago. The mansion even has its own entry on Wikipedia. He got it cheap enough, but he's been working on it ever since and is not progressing very fast. I figure it would take the rest of his life and most of what he earns to fix it back to what it once was.

If a house is listed for way under what it should probably sell for, there is almost always good reason for that. It might actually end up costing more in the long run than it would be to buy one in good condition at normal prices.

I used to be a "humanity should unite" person myself until I realized just how much allists hate us. Have you ever compared, for example, the comments under a Facebook post announcing the murder of an allistic child versus an autistic one? I can tell you that the comments under the announcement of the autistic child's murder will probably show allists outright defending the murderer. That is the extent to which they despise us. I can't coexist with these people. (btw this is not a vocal minority, this is the majority)


The town is already dying so I doubt it would live for much longer anyway. But in case the allists in the town begin to revive it too, yes, this is probably what will happen.


Yes, we want to build a city for all autists.


Yep, I think we will have an easier time there than in many other places.


I'll be honest, I'm not the person who would know about the facilities at Emporium. RattyBoBatty would probably know better about that.


That's our current plan, it's relatively cheap and can be easily made into a headquarters for our movement.


Thanks for bringing this up, this may be an issue and I'll mention it to the other people in the server.