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25 Jan 2025, 7:55 am

funeralxempire wrote:

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I could only support the annexation of Canada and Greenland if we Americans get their social safety net, including universal healthcare. Or in other words, a Republican's nightmare!

I don't see Canadians or Greenlanders agreeing to be annexed, even if the US were to make radical improvements.

Both Greenland and Canada wish to remain sovereign as a matter of principle. Being annexed by a slightly less terrible version of the US is still bowing down to America's imperialist boot.

It's hard to imagine anyone who pretends to be Conservative to want them. Even if just for political purposes, making them states would be a major boost for the Democrats.

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25 Jan 2025, 5:53 pm

^^^
But that would require Trump to think two or three steps ahead, which is difficult for such an appetite driven individual like himself.

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25 Jan 2025, 5:58 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

^^^
But that would require Trump to think two or three steps ahead, which is difficult for such an appetite driven individual like himself.

That's quite true. I don't think that Trump cares about the Republicans or the Conservatives. All he wants is to build his own fortunes and to go down in the history books as being "great".

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25 Jan 2025, 6:01 pm

kokopelli wrote:

It's hard to imagine anyone who pretends to be Conservative to want them. Even if just for political purposes, making them states would be a major boost for the Democrats.

I get the feeling a portion of conservatives believe Canadians and/or Greenlanders will just magically flip to supporting conservative policies once they experience the utopia of American conservatism for themselves. It's not realistic thinking, it's utopian thinking.

Another portion would probably be quite happy to deny Canadians and/or Greenlanders representation and just tell them to be grateful for Anschluss. These people will also label violent resistance to their attempt at annexation as illegitimate violence, while insisting violence in support of annexation is legitimate.

I expect to see a well-known playbook get trotted out when resistance is experienced:

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Yesterday, 3:13 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

I could only support the annexation of Canada and Greenland if we Americans get their social safety net, including universal healthcare. Or in other words, a Republican's nightmare!

I'm sure you're right. Just dreaming about universal health care is all.

Won't happen in my lifetime

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Yesterday, 3:19 pm

^^^
We can always hope.

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Yesterday, 4:02 pm

The real problem with Trump taking Greenland against Greenland's and/or Denmark's wish is not about how it would affect the number of votes either way in the US elections, but that would be an act of war against EU and that EU and US would probably go separate ways after that. I heard a French official refering to that they have nuclear weapons if needed to defend EU territorites adding "God forbid it comes down to that!" If Trump has any sense at all this is him bluffing.

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Yesterday, 5:09 pm

If Trump decides to try his luck with a trade war against Denmark (and EU) his supporters should keep in mind that the Danish company Novo Nordisk is a large provider of diabetes medicine like Ozempic to the US. If the gloves are off Denmark could deal a major blow to the MAGA movement.

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Yesterday, 7:08 pm

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It would also cause Denmark to have to invoke Article 5 within NATO.

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^It would be above Putin's wildest dreams.

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