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Will Windows survive?
Yes 67%  67%  [ 2 ]
Yes only in companies 33%  33%  [ 1 ]
Yes only for games 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
No, Proton and Wine 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 3

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28 Jan 2025, 9:48 am

I was wondering: Mac are getting cheaper, GNU Linux is almost perfect. (I just hope the rm -r will be managed as in MacOS where they explain you what you are damning do 8O ).

I mean, Windows is getting more and more expencive and getting more and more expencive Office and getting less and less crackable... now, Windows is known for suck.

Proton and Wine make it useless, many stuffs are getting forked for them too and Adobe is working better in MacOS and you can use Steam and Proton for gaming.

Will it survive?



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28 Jan 2025, 10:07 am

Since Windows now comes bundled with spyware it seems likely that it's ubiquity has peaked.


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28 Jan 2025, 4:36 pm

I don't know. The world isn't much like me when it comes to choosing operating systems and the devices that run them. I was happy with a desktop running Win98se, but have been forced into using XP, 7, and now (gradually) 10. I'm always very reluctant to change over because it always involves my circumventing all the extra spyware, forced updates, and "look-and-feel" changes, and that's a lot of work, before I can even start to use a new OS for serious work. The only reason I change OS at all is that the Web forces me into it - for example, Firefox is poised to end support for 32-bit browsing. As for mobile phones, I'm still waiting for something as good as the old Samsung dumphone I used to use back in 2010. It was useful occasionally, so as an occasional user I would use pay-as-you-go, topped up via more or less any ATM. Since the hardware died I've not been able to find anything that comes close to it. Smartphone? It'd take me a month of Sundays to circumvent all the invasive crap out of that, if it can be done at all, and then there's the money - a lot more than my old Samsung just for the hardware, and probably the only way to use it would be via an extortionate pay-per-month plan that would effectively punish me for not using it very often.

So if everybody was like me, consumer resistance would have killed every Microsoft initiative from Windows 7 up, and cheap but effective pay-as-you-go dumbphones would be selling like hot cakes. But I doubt the average user is bothered by any of the issues that bother me. They seem to have more money than sense, though at least they've got a device in their pocket that can get them out of trouble when they get stranded while travelling etc. I haven't, and one of these days it'll be the death of me. All because of my quaint preference for honest goods.



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28 Jan 2025, 5:20 pm

I like Linux. I use Linux. I'm not a big techy, I've tried a few debian based distros and fiddled with Manjaro a bit. I've settled on Mint which I have on my laptop and an old iMac, and my home server runs Ubuntu server.

But I still can't see Linux replacing Windows, any time soon.

Most home users just don't have the inclination to learn how to use it, then learn how to troubleshoot the problems you inevitably run into with it.

I can see it becoming more popular in enterprise level businesses with their own IT teams and bespoke software. But most SMEs who rely on external support and commercial software aren't going to bother. They're certainly not going to mess around trying to get Office running with WINE.

I just think Linux is, and probably always will be, too fragmented, too exclusive and too finickity for the average computer user to ever bother with.


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Yesterday, 6:21 pm

The point is: modern Linux is 100% noob friendly


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Today, 10:46 am

AsaboveAsbelow wrote:
The point is: modern Linux is 100% noob friendly

hmmmm I think it is a lot better or easier, but the most likely to gain traction would be something GUI based and immutable or whatever that word is that like restricts the files apart from /home so that if the user screws it up then it will self correct. a lot of people are putting stock into steam os 3 being that although it has taken valve a long time to come out and nothing is out yet.

It would still require a cost incentive for stores and other places to change to linux, lenovo has offered it on systems in past and their new gaming handheld will be using it since steam deck is better than windows based ones for ease of use apart from anti cheat games.

I think either windows 10 support going and people wanting not to upgrade yet would lead to more adoption but unless windows does something like cloud computing required or more invasive stuff then people won't care to swap.

although if NT does die I wonder what would happen with proton and then supporting current games that are windows based in the future with newer ones coming out for mac or linux.



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Today, 11:13 am

AsaboveAsbelow wrote:
The point is: modern Linux is 100% noob friendly


I disagree. Some distros make it certainly more noob friendly than it used to be but my experience of Linux is that sooner or later you'll run into some sort of problem, either a software package you need that doesn't run natively or a hardware problem.

I don't mind that because I like learning about computers but most people just want things to work and get intimidated by command lines or irritated by software compatibility layers.


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The point is: with 1200€ you have a Macbook Air with a full free cost suit.

For what you speak, is matter of being used... to me is weirdo the contrary.
I'm used to Terminal, to what is neofetch, to know about grab, to know ls, to not use rm -r... to me is weirdo not having this.

To me is weird how Windows works, is weird having Start.

I'm used to write ls and fing my Finder.

I'm used to user path.

Is weird the contrary.

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Is weirdo not download stuffs by Terminal... I write a commandline and the work is done. I download everything also Phyton and Php using commandline. Commandline is faster and cleaner. You require Homebrew.
I want how much my pc is open? neofetch.
I need to resize a picture? Terminal.
I need to write a random memo? Nano.
I need to say something without my voice? say.
I need to use a pc software? Proton and Wine.

Is easier.

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Windows? Where is my file? I cannot check, there's no ls.


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