Trump Moves to Establish 'Patriotic Education' in Schools

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31 Jan 2025, 6:00 pm

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In executive orders signed Wednesday, President Trump mandated changes for American schools that include replacing what he calls radical ideologies with a curriculum of "patriotic education." One of them calls for cutting federal funding for schools that teach certain topics related to race, sex, gender, or politics, ABC News reports. It's the first time the federal government has tried to exert such control over curriculum, one expert said. Another directs agencies to use funding to expand school choice through voucher programs. "Too many children do not thrive in their assigned, government-run K-12 school," the order says, per the New York Times.

Teaching: This order gives the secretary of education 90 days to come up with a strategy to end "indoctrination" in K-12 schools, subject to Trump's approval. There is no education secretary at the moment; confirmation hearings have not been scheduled for the nominee, Linda McMahon, per NPR. The order says it "prohibits federal funding of the indoctrination of children which includes radical gender ideology and critical race theory in the classroom," per the Hill. It's not clear what criteria would be used by the Department of Education to identify schools teaching critical race theory. Trump has said American history classes should be rooted in "patriotic education." The order, which does not say "critical race theory," says without citing evidence that teachers have been "demanding acquiescence" to concepts of "white privilege" or "unconscious bias." That has promoted racism, it says, per Reuters.

Response: "Whether the federal government can influence curriculum in this way is a completely open question," said Jonathan Zimmerman, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania. "If they were actually able to compel school districts to alter their curriculum, that would be the first time the federal government had done that. Ever." Such restrictions imposed at the state level around the country have led to lawsuits.

School choice: This order directs the secretaries of education and defense to decide how discretionary grant programs can promote school choice, a goal the president calls "education freedom." Education Savings Accounts let families to divert per-student public school funding to instead pay expenses involving private schools, micro-schools, or homeschooling. Agencies are to give guidance on how funds can go toward "educational alternatives, including private and faith-based options," per ABC.

Response: Opponents argue that such efforts damage public schools while propping up schools that don't have to meet state standards for student performance. "Instead of stealing taxpayer money to fund private schools, we should focus on public schools," said Rebecca Pringle, president of the National Education Association. Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers, called the plan "likely illegal".


Replacing "woke indoctrination" with MAGA indocrination


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31 Jan 2025, 6:24 pm

Ok he says what should be taken out, but what is "patriotic education" exactly?



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31 Jan 2025, 6:52 pm

cyberdora wrote:
Ok he says what should be taken out, but what is "patriotic education" exactly?

Everything America does and has done is rightoius.


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31 Jan 2025, 8:38 pm

I thought education was about how to make your way in the world, understand how science works, and know unvarnished, truthful history. Gee, I guess I was wrong... according to the Cheeto Jesus.


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Kraichgauer wrote:
I thought education was about how to make your way in the world, understand how science works, and know unvarnished, truthful history. Gee, I guess I was wrong... according to the Cheeto Jesus.


that's what I thought. Learn about the world truthfully and help to contribute to society. Patriotism sounds a lot like propaganda ala Orwell's warning about newspeak.



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Yesterday, 3:50 am

cyberdora wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I thought education was about how to make your way in the world, understand how science works, and know unvarnished, truthful history. Gee, I guess I was wrong... according to the Cheeto Jesus.


that's what I thought. Learn about the world truthfully and help to contribute to society. Patriotism sounds a lot like propaganda ala Orwell's warning about newspeak.


I think that's the difference between actual patriotism and nationalism.


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Yesterday, 5:21 pm

Good point Kraichie
But I looked up the actual definition and they both have the potential to go "far right"



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OMG! :roll:


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Yesterday, 6:27 pm

IMO, both patriotism and nationalism are problematic and rooted in tribalism. That’s one of the few things my upbringing got right although for the wrong reasons.

I don’t care about my country going to s**t so much as I care about the rights of people everywhere although, obviously, one can vote, protest, get involved in other forms of activism, etc. much easier in one’s own neck of the woods.

Here’s a bit on the difference of the words “patriotism” and “nationalism:”

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There are still obvious areas of overlap: we define patriotism as “love for or devotion to one’s country” and nationalism in part as “loyalty and devotion to a nation.” But the definition of nationalism also includes “exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups.” This exclusionary aspect is not shared by patriotism.

A somewhat subtler difference between the two words may be found in their modifiers and the ideas to which each is connected. When we examine large bodies of recent text we see that patriotism is more often used in a general sense, often in conjunction with such words as bravery, valor, duty, and devotion. Nationalism, however, tends to find itself modified by specific movements, most frequently of a political bent.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar ... ationalism

I’m not sure how patriotism wouldn’t also involve exalting one’s country above others, especially in practice. I suppose it’s possible. I’ve just never observed it.

Is there a word that means “love for or devotion to the world?” If there is, I’d readily apply it to myself.



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Yesterday, 6:44 pm

I can see how one leads to the other. Nationalism is saying America is number one and then patriotism is putting America first. Or Nationalism is supporting America in Afghanistan and then patriotism is joining the military to defend America's rights.



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The funny thing is, nationalism back in the 19th century was regarded as a liberal idea. Conservatives originally opposed the idea, associating it with the radical, mob rule of the French Revolution. But in time, the right co-opted nationalism, and made it the ugly thing it is today.


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