I hate how I’m always unappealing/undesirable in a romantic

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Escape1894
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02 Feb 2025, 3:14 am

As the title says, I really hate how I’m always unappealing for anybody in a romantic sense. At 30, I’ve never been on a first date and have never been apart of a hookup either. Shoot at 30, I’ve never had a woman show any interest in me that way as well. Not even the smallest hints ever existed for me. IMO, the two biggest reasons for this is my autism and being very below average looking. It’s a death sentence and one that I didn’t sign up for either. Also my level of autism is enough where I’m too normal for other autistics but also too weird for NT’s. I have and continue to do the self improvements in life but the result has been nothing. Women just seem to be interested in everyone but me.

I know I’m not entitled to go on dates and be in a relationships. But I also don’t think it’s right to see everyone else around have success with romance except me. I don’t think it’s right to see everyone else have a woman be interested in them except me. Of course just because me saying I don’t think it’s right doesn’t really matter. Because it’ll continue on no matter what. I just wanted to experience what everyone else has experienced as well. Sadly, this will not be how my life goes. I’ll be known as the weird step uncle that could never be with someone and they wondered why. It sucks and I hate it but that’s how my life will go.



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02 Feb 2025, 7:09 am

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Also my level of autism is enough where I’m too normal for other autistics but also too weird for NT’s. I have and continue to do the self improvements in life but the result has been nothing. Women just seem to be interested in everyone but me.
Perhaps it would help if you try for a relationship with NT women who have mental &/or physical things that would put more normal guys off


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02 Feb 2025, 7:07 pm

Sorry to hear that. There can be many factors why things don't work out but the important thing is to keep putting yourself out there and try. Take 99 rejections and 1 win. Don't focus too much on self improvement beyond the basics (hygiene, clothing, health, having sources of happiness beyond relationships), instead go for a wide range of women. There are billions of them.



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02 Feb 2025, 8:22 pm

The main problem with autism is that you miss signs that women are hitting on you!
Uh, did you know she wanted a date with you? No, I didn't have a clue.

Appearance matters a great deal to men. No so much for women. But, women do prefer tall men. By a lot.
But, short men with good jobs have an excellent chance of forming a long term relationship with women.



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Yesterday, 1:28 am

nick007 wrote:
Escape1894 wrote:
Also my level of autism is enough where I’m too normal for other autistics but also too weird for NT’s. I have and continue to do the self improvements in life but the result has been nothing. Women just seem to be interested in everyone but me.
Perhaps it would help if you try for a relationship with NT women who have mental &/or physical things that would put more normal guys off


I’ve tried that as well and they’re usually interested in someone else.



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Yesterday, 1:29 am

BTDT wrote:
The main problem with autism is that you miss signs that women are hitting on you!
Uh, did you know she wanted a date with you? No, I didn't have a clue.

Appearance matters a great deal to men. No so much for women. But, women do prefer tall men. By a lot.
But, short men with good jobs have an excellent chance of forming a long term relationship with women.



I can read signs and body language decently. There were never any hints and signs of interest from a single woman in my life. I’m just too ugly and weird to be in one.



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Yesterday, 1:31 am

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Sorry to hear that. There can be many factors why things don't work out but the important thing is to keep putting yourself out there and try. Take 99 rejections and 1 win. Don't focus too much on self improvement beyond the basics (hygiene, clothing, health, having sources of happiness beyond relationships), instead go for a wide range of women. There are billions of them.


I’m more like talking 100 rejections and 0 wins. I can’t take anymore losses.



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Yesterday, 6:31 pm

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Sugamon wrote:
Sorry to hear that. There can be many factors why things don't work out but the important thing is to keep putting yourself out there and try. Take 99 rejections and 1 win. Don't focus too much on self improvement beyond the basics (hygiene, clothing, health, having sources of happiness beyond relationships), instead go for a wide range of women. There are billions of them.


I’m more like talking 100 rejections and 0 wins. I can’t take anymore losses.

Are you going for the same type of women or trying to experiment a bit? There are older, younger, different careers, attitudes, nationalities... Different people look for different values, especially if it's long term. Also, are you diversifying the places you try to find dates? Online, apps, hobbies, work, street, etc...

By the way, you're not undesirable or unappealing. Confidence comes from appreciating yourself the way you are as you are. After you like yourself in the mirror, you'll find ways to gradually improve yourself in a way that you feel comfortable in rather than trying to satisfy an imaginary partner.

Just two thoughts, I know it's not a great situation but if it helps I was a virgin until 28.



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Today, 12:38 am

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Sugamon wrote:
Sorry to hear that. There can be many factors why things don't work out but the important thing is to keep putting yourself out there and try. Take 99 rejections and 1 win. Don't focus too much on self improvement beyond the basics (hygiene, clothing, health, having sources of happiness beyond relationships), instead go for a wide range of women. There are billions of them.


I’m more like talking 100 rejections and 0 wins. I can’t take anymore losses.

Are you going for the same type of women or trying to experiment a bit? There are older, younger, different careers, attitudes, nationalities... Different people look for different values, especially if it's long term. Also, are you diversifying the places you try to find dates? Online, apps, hobbies, work, street, etc...

By the way, you're not undesirable or unappealing. Confidence comes from appreciating yourself the way you are as you are. After you like yourself in the mirror, you'll find ways to gradually improve yourself in a way that you feel comfortable in rather than trying to satisfy an imaginary partner.

Just two thoughts, I know it's not a great situation but if it helps I was a virgin until 28.


I’ve tried everyone who I found to be attractive no matter the location but they were interested in someone else. I’ve asked others who I didn’t find fully attractive but think I could be if I got to know them more. Again I was always told no. Then I started asking even ones I didn’t find attractive and again I was always rejected. Everyone was interested in someone else and no woman has ever flirted with me.

I accepted who I am. I’m an ugly, autistic, over thinker, pessimist, never love myself, never have self confidence/esteem guy. So looking at myself in the mirror will make it worse.

Respectfully you telling you lost yours at 28 doesn’t make me feel any better. Especially since I’m already 30 and will die being one.



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Today, 1:14 am

Did you "court" them, so to say, before asking them out? Women need to get a good feel of who you are before agreeing to date you. Especially the attractive ones, because they're used to dealing with men and a lot of men are neither reliable nor safe. Nothing to do with you personally, there are just some men out there who are ... Not nice.

Let me know if I'm unintentionally saying something that makes you feel worse.



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Today, 1:25 am

Sugamon wrote:
Did you "court" them, so to say, before asking them out? Women need to get a good feel of who you are before agreeing to date you. Especially the attractive ones, because they're used to dealing with men and a lot of men are neither reliable nor safe. Nothing to do with you personally, there are just some men out there who are ... Not nice.

Let me know if I'm unintentionally saying something that makes you feel worse.


Yes I did try to get to know them and all. I didn’t do any cold approach due to being too ugly to do so. And nothing you say is making me feel worse.



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Today, 2:35 am

What exactly do you find ugly about yourself? Are people regularly telling you that, or is it mostly you telling yourself? There must be something about your looks that you like ... Nobody's 100% ugly nor 100% perfect, unless they're AI.

Or opposite, anything about your looks that you like?



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Today, 10:24 am

Sugamon wrote:
What exactly do you find ugly about yourself? Are people regularly telling you that, or is it mostly you telling yourself? There must be something about your looks that you like ... Nobody's 100% ugly nor 100% perfect, unless they're AI.

Or opposite, anything about your looks that you like?


Just about everything. I look like a middle aged divorced dad. I look 20-30 years older than I actually am along with having acne still. It’s something that’s been confirmed to me by many others. No there isn’t really much I like about myself regarding looks. I truly am example of 100% ugly.