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05 Feb 2025, 10:41 pm

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Well, the "gal" thing was 40 years ago, and the "India" thing could have been misconstrued. Many companies are notorious for outsourcing their "support" to India because it's cheap, and cheap services are usually poor services. I think timf may have worded his post a little clumsily, but I see no reason to read tons of sexism or racism into it. Aspies can be a tad blunt and it's hard to get these things perfect every time.
Very true. Funny, I have met a few very old gentlemen who call me and other younger than them women gals. It's kind of cute when they say it. I guess it's the same as when they call young men fellows. I think that in some parts of the US, they might still use those words in everyday speech.


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05 Feb 2025, 11:05 pm

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As far as I know, "gal" is just the female form of "guy." But they call anybody a guy these days. They don't call males "gals" though. Don't know why not.



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Yesterday, 12:55 am

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This is not necessarily an either or situation. Laziness can be a cause of those ideas about women.

What you described in your last post is classical gaslighting. Which makes me think sexism might be too mild a word. Maybe misogyny is the correct term. Or it could be ableism or both.
Oh wow, thank you. Gaslighting is actually what it felt like. I just couldn't quite identify the feeling. I think you are right about what you are saying.

Glad to be of help.


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Yesterday, 11:06 am

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skibum wrote:
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This is not necessarily an either or situation. Laziness can be a cause of those ideas about women.

What you described in your last post is classical gaslighting. Which makes me think sexism might be too mild a word. Maybe misogyny is the correct term. Or it could be ableism or both.
Oh wow, thank you. Gaslighting is actually what it felt like. I just couldn't quite identify the feeling. I think you are right about what you are saying.

Glad to be of help.
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Yesterday, 8:29 pm

My comment had nothing to do with the term 'gal'.

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This is a great example of how even when it seems like you're being complimentary, it's still sexism to say you avoid one sex because you believe it's the other sex that is "competent and helpful".


As to the OP, it seems to be universally acknowledged that health insurance companies in the U.S., whether by ignorance or malice, will choose the cheapest option for them. It is also well known that women and people of color have much worse medical outcomes because of the prejudices in how they are treated every step of the way. The original customer service rep might have been following a required script to save money by avoiding providing recommendations to an appropriate level of medical expertise, or might not be knowledgeable enough about medical issues to understand what was being explained, or might not care enough to listen carefully, or might undervalue the patient's needs because of sexism or ableism....but it's probably some mix of at least a couple of these possibilities.


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