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06 Feb 2025, 5:43 pm

Once again there is evidence that perhaps Trump may know some history, despite his extensive ignorance (but only Nazi history).

In 1940, after defeating the French, Hitler believed he would win the Battle of Britain; so he planned ahead to use British ships to deport German Jews and forcibly settle them in Madagascar.

Now Trump spouts a plan for relocating Palestinians from their own country. Who would benefit???



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06 Feb 2025, 5:57 pm

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I was curious what election issue swayed Arab-Americans to vote for trump
I got my answer - The exodus, fuelled by anger over the Biden administration’s handling of the war in Gaza, helped Trump win key battleground states, especially Michigan
https://www.voanews.com/a/in-historic-s ... 54995.html

From the feedback on X many African Americans would like dedicate this song to the millions of Arabs, Asians and Latinos who helped trump get into power in 2024

This is why protest votes or protesting by staying home is often worse than voting for the lesser of two evils. I had lot of trepidation at the thought of a Kamala Harris presidency but voted for her anyway because I did not want to happen what has been happening.


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06 Feb 2025, 6:12 pm

cyberdora wrote:
I was curious what election issue swayed Arab-Americans to vote for trump
I got my answer - The exodus, fuelled by anger over the Biden administration’s handling of the war in Gaza, helped Trump win key battleground states, especially Michigan
https://www.voanews.com/a/in-historic-s ... 54995.html

From the feedback on X many African Americans would like dedicate this song to the millions of Arabs, Asians and Latinos who helped trump get into power in 2024


:lol: :lol: :lol:


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07 Feb 2025, 12:45 am

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This is why protest votes or protesting by staying home is often worse than voting for the lesser of two evils. I had lot of trepidation at the thought of a Kamala Harris presidency but voted for her anyway because I did not want to happen what has been happening.

If its any consolation to those feeling betrayed. Perhaps people thought "how much worse can 4 more years of trump be"?

Well...virtually a few weeks in...trump proved it could get much worse



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07 Feb 2025, 5:31 pm

He is skipping his meds…



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08 Feb 2025, 7:07 pm

I think the Mar-a-Lago Club should be handed over to the Palestinians to be used as a holiday resort.


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08 Feb 2025, 10:22 pm

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I think the Mar-a-Lago Club should be handed over to the Palestinians to be used as a holiday resort.


Seconded!


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10 Feb 2025, 4:21 pm

Trump says Palestinians won't have the right to return to Gaza under his plan: "I would own this"

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President Trump said Saturday that Palestinians won't have the right to return to Gaza, and "I would own this," expanding on his statements last week that the U.S. would "take over" and "own" the Gaza Strip, and that Palestinians should not return.

The president made the comment during an interview with Fox News' Bret Baier that was recorded Saturday, but the latest portion was released Monday.

"We'll build beautiful communities for the 1.9 million people," the president told Baier. "We'll build beautiful communities. Safe communities. Could be five, six. Could be two, but we'll build safe communities a little bit away from where they are, where all of this danger is. In the meantime, I would own this. Think of it as a real estate development for the future. It would be a beautiful piece of land—"

Baier asked Mr. Trump, "Would the Palestinian have the right to return?"

"No, they wouldn't, because they're going to have much better housing, much better. In other words, I'm talking about building a permanent place for them," Mr. Trump responded. "Because if they have to return now, it'll be years before you could ever — it's not habitable. It could be years before it could happen."

Mr. Trump repeated his assertions that Jordan and Egypt might spend the money to resettle and house Palestinians, though both countries have so far rejected the idea. And it's not clear where the approximately 2.1 million Palestinians who live in Gaza would be housed while dwellings for them were being built elsewhere.

The president's latest suggestion that he individually would own any of the land or real estate developments in Gaza under his plan is new, although the president has repeatedly suggested that Palestinians should live elsewhere. His response that Palestinians don't have the right to return is his furthest-reaching statement on the matter yet and constitutes an implicit rejection of a two-state solution.


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10 Feb 2025, 7:50 pm

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Trump says Palestinians won't have the right to return to Gaza under his plan: "I would own this"
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President Trump said Saturday that Palestinians won't have the right to return to Gaza, and "I would own this," expanding on his statements last week that the U.S. would "take over" and "own" the Gaza Strip, and that Palestinians should not return.

The president made the comment during an interview with Fox News' Bret Baier that was recorded Saturday, but the latest portion was released Monday.

"We'll build beautiful communities for the 1.9 million people," the president told Baier. "We'll build beautiful communities. Safe communities. Could be five, six. Could be two, but we'll build safe communities a little bit away from where they are, where all of this danger is. In the meantime, I would own this. Think of it as a real estate development for the future. It would be a beautiful piece of land—"

Baier asked Mr. Trump, "Would the Palestinian have the right to return?"

"No, they wouldn't, because they're going to have much better housing, much better. In other words, I'm talking about building a permanent place for them," Mr. Trump responded. "Because if they have to return now, it'll be years before you could ever — it's not habitable. It could be years before it could happen."

Mr. Trump repeated his assertions that Jordan and Egypt might spend the money to resettle and house Palestinians, though both countries have so far rejected the idea. And it's not clear where the approximately 2.1 million Palestinians who live in Gaza would be housed while dwellings for them were being built elsewhere.

The president's latest suggestion that he individually would own any of the land or real estate developments in Gaza under his plan is new, although the president has repeatedly suggested that Palestinians should live elsewhere. His response that Palestinians don't have the right to return is his furthest-reaching statement on the matter yet and constitutes an implicit rejection of a two-state solution.


Somebody in Washington DC, please, FOR CHRISSAKES! Make an apt comparison between this and how Native Americans were forced of their land and relocated! Because this is American history replaying in the Middle East!


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10 Feb 2025, 8:57 pm

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Nothing like Wackos speading their Wackyness..... To show that Israel and the US would be the some version of masterace in the Middle East...Which might further spread the HATE created by Israel to the American Empire .
And these people whom lost homes ,family, lands,& Loved ones ,will likely project onto the Americans around the world. And the least guarded places will obviously become the most likely targets as Israel has already made themselves targets they will be taking US with them.... And what of the already immigrated Palestine Americans already here.
That may feel still connected to Gaza.....a whole new wave of what the US describes as Terrorism . . .
And this may very well feed into Trumps design to instigate a new War . And by the end of his term this time ...
There maybe some fabricated or real situation ,He may or maynot use to instigate a excuse to enact the "Emergency War Powers act" which means no presidentail elections . 8O So as to extend his presidency...Most likely at the cost to the entire world. :skull:
But this is just a Theory. Hopefully none of this will happen.


I’m sorry, but the USA no longer exists. From now on, I shall be calling this country Mahagonny, after the fictional city in Bertold Brecht’s play of the same name, where being broke gets you the death penalty.

In addition, we are living in the end times, according to scripture, in particular The Revelations of St. John the Divine. The antichrist is now appeared, in the form of Donald J. Trump and his minions. The only activity left is the return of Jesus the Christ.



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10 Feb 2025, 9:00 pm

Good Morning Vietnam.....


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11 Feb 2025, 9:53 am

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Somebody in Washington DC, please, FOR CHRISSAKES! Make an apt comparison between this and how Native Americans were forced of their land and relocated! Because this is American history replaying in the Middle East!
It's extremely scary, even from the other side of the pond, that this petulant toddler is allowed to crap on anything he pleases - including the Constitution.
Are there really no adults in the room?


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11 Feb 2025, 7:41 pm

After meeting with Trump, Jordan's King Abdullah II reiterates 'steadfast opposition' to moving Palestinians out of Gaza

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ordan’s King Abdullah II said he reiterated Tuesday during a meeting with President Donald Trump his country's and the region's "steadfast opposition" to the president's plan to resettle millions of Palestinians out of Gaza.

“I stressed that my foremost commitment is to Jordan, to its stability and to the well-being of Jordanians,” he said on X. “I reiterated Jordan’s steadfast position against the displacement of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. This is the unified Arab position.”

Earlier in the day, Abdullah told Trump he could take in 2,000 Palestinian children from Gaza who are very sick or have cancer. But the king later confirmed his longstanding position against displacing millions of Palestinians from their homes as Trump has suggested.

Trump said during their meeting Tuesday that he expected progress toward his plan and believed “99%” that something could be worked out with Egypt, another regional partner that had bristled at the president's surprise. "We'll have some others helping," Trump added.

Seated with Trump in the Oval Office, Abdullah said they must ensure a plan that satisfies all parties, a not insignificant obstacle as questions remain about how each country might move to relocate a swell of people who have suffered months of devastation, and which some fear will further undermine efforts to create a Palestinian state. More than 1 million Palestinians remain without homes, and the king declined to say whether he would be willing to take in refugees in larger numbers. "We have to look at the best interests of the United States, of the people in the region, especially to my people of Jordan," he said.

Questioned further by reporters about Trump’s ideas, the king said he would refrain from saying much until Egypt had a chance to weigh in. His statement following the meeting with Trump made clear that the sides remain far apart.

“Rebuilding Gaza without displacing the Palestinians and addressing the dire humanitarian situation should be the priority for all,” he said on X. “Achieving just peace on the basis of the two-state solution is the way to ensure regional stability.”

There are already over 2 million Palestinian refugees in Jordan, according to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees, which says that most of them have citizenship. Jordan's Queen Rania and her family were Palestinian refugees who fled Kuwait.


Egypt to present ‘comprehensive’ plan for rebuilding Gaza while Palestinians stay there
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Egypt plans to “present a comprehensive vision for the reconstruction” of the Gaza Strip that ensures Palestinians remain on their land, the Egyptian foreign ministry says in a statement.

Egypt “hopes to cooperate” with the administration of US President Donald Trump “to reach comprehensive and just peace in the region.”

The statement comes as Trump continues to press for his plan to take over the Gaza Strip and resettle its population to neighboring Egypt and Jordan despite rejection from Arab states.


Majority of Israelis support Trump's Gaza plan, relocation of Palestinians in exclusive 'Post' poll
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Almost two-thirds of Israelis (65%) support US President Donald Trump’s plan to take over Gaza and believe it is the best solution to end the war in the coastal enclave, a Jerusalem Post poll revealed on Tuesday.

The poll, carried out by Menachem Lazar’s Panel4All over the past two days, included responses from 500 Israeli Jews and Arabs 18 years old and over.

Only 16% of respondents stated that they do not support the president’s plan, with 10% saying the plan is morally reprehensible due to it necessitating the forced displacement of Palestinians, while 6% say there are more preferable solutions to be implemented.

Trump’s plan carries significant support among coalition voters, with 88% of right-leaning people voicing their support for the plan. In comparison, 51% of opposition voters support the plan.

One-in-three Israelis support Jewish state 'from the river to the sea'
A plurality of 35% of respondents stated that one Jewish state, “from the river to the sea,” is the best solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, while 29% support a two-state solution. In contrast, only 6% said they would support the establishment of an inclusive state for all its citizens.

The remaining 30% said none of the options constitute an appropriate solution to the conflict.

When asked about Trump’s motivations behind his plan to take control of the Gaza Strip, 14% of respondents said the president has Israel’s best interests in mind, while 49% said that, while Trump did have Israeli interests in mind, they were not his main consideration. This sentiment was shared by 57% of right-wing voters and 44% of left-wing ones.

Twenty-seven percent said Trump’s Gaza plan mainly serves American national interests or the president’s own personal interests, a figure that includes 19% of people who support Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition. Some 3% said Trump failed to take Israeli interests into account, with 7% saying they did not know.

What is Israel's preferred 'day after' plan in Gaza?
The poll included a separate question asking what is the most appropriate “day after” plan in Gaza. Some 52% of coalition voters and 46% of opposition voters said Trump’s plan would be the most preferable, contingent on the willing relocation of Gazans.

Some 19% of respondents, including one in three left-leaning voters, noted their preferred “day-after” vision would be transferring responsibility for the Gaza Strip to neighboring Arab states such as Egypt, along with Saudi Arabia and Gulf states such as Qatar. In contrast, only 10% of right-wing voters stated their support for such a solution.

A similar 19% also stated their support for a full Israeli occupation of the Gaza Strip, which would include the establishment of a military governing body and resettlement of Jews to the area. This option was preferred by 31% of coalition voters, while 6% of opposition voters supported the idea.


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Yesterday, 1:17 am

It's disgusting to see the US and the West writ large commit genocide in real time. It is extremely upsetting to see people even in my family make claims based on 5800 years of mythology... it's very very disgusting.