Trump still wants Canada and Greenland

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11 Feb 2025, 2:51 am

I feel that something very bad will happen to us, and the rest of the world will turn its collective back on us.



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11 Feb 2025, 3:04 am

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I feel that something very bad will happen to us, and the rest of the world will turn its collective back on us.


I fear we're already seeing the beginning of both.


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Yesterday, 4:15 pm

Hygge to Hollywood: Petition calling for Denmark to buy California reaches 200,000 signatures

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A satirical counter offer to President Donald Trump’s proposal to buy Greenland has popped in the form of a petition which suggests that Denmark should buy California.

More than 200,000 people have signed up for the plan which says that the Scandinavian country needs “more sunshine, palm trees, and roller skates.”

“Måke Califørnia Great Ægain,” reads the top of the petition website, replacing some English letters with Danish ones.

Among the listed so-called “supporters” of the petition are the ancient Scandinavian king, Sven the Viking, Karen from accounting and Laris Ulrich, the Danish drummer and founding member of the band Metallica.

“Imagine swapping your rain boots for flip-flops,” the petition says, perhaps cogniscant of the fact that during the dark winter months Denmark gets just an hour of sunlight a day. By contrast, California gets 300 days of sunshine a year.

As part of the buyout plan, the petition — launched on the website denmarkification.com — has set a crowdfunding goal of $1 trillion, “give or take a few billion,” and the target of 500,000 signatures.

And at the bottom of the the petition’s website, which does not mention Greenland, is a message reading, “Disclaimer: This campaign is 100% real… in our dreams.”

Xåvier Dutoit, “chief pastry officer” of the campaign, said the idea for the petition came to him one night in the Philippines, where he was having a beer with some friends.

“While on vacation, I was at a bar with some friends, and overheard a rather loud American tourist discussing Donald Trump’s bid to buy Greenland from Denmark,” he wrote in an email to NBC News. “That American didn’t seem to grasp how unhinged and absurd it was for any country’s President — especially in a stable democracy that the USA claims to be — to offer or threaten to take over another sovereign country’s territory.”

The following morning, he wrote, he pulled together a “funny campaign website” that “was fully intended to entertain my friends for a few days.” Instead, it went viral.

The campaign began to see explosive growth on Tuesday, Dutoit said, and it’s now getting up to 1,000 new signatures an hour.

"We’ve been especially touched by lots of warm and enthusiastic support from Californians — and laughed when folks from other parts of the US raised their hand asking to have their state purchased by Denmark!" he wrote. "It seems that a lot of people needed this little bit of fun and levity, at a time when much of the public discourse is increasingly tense and worrying."

Whether Californians will be open to the petition’s proposition that Denmark should own it remains to be seen, although it does promise to send executives from the Danish toymaker Lego to secure the U.S. state, calling them the country’s “bestest negotiatiors.”

“Rule of law, universal health care and fact based politics might apply,” the petition says. “We’ll bring hygge to Hollywood, bike lanes to Beverly Hills, and organic smørrebrød to every street corner.”

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Yesterday, 4:34 pm

The damage Trump's second presidency inflicts on the US standing in the world may quite possible be permanent.


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Yesterday, 4:49 pm

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The damage Trump's second presidency inflicts on the US standing in the world may quite possible be permanent.


I'm pretty sure he's already ruined the Canada/US relationship. Even most of Maple MAGA have soured on Yankistan.


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Yesterday, 11:19 pm

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Today, 12:23 pm

BillyTree wrote:
The damage Trump's second presidency inflicts on the US standing in the world may quite possible be permanent.

I don’t know about permanent because few things are but for at least a generation.

Most people say you can’t blame the people for what their government does and they probably mean it at the moment they are being asked. But that at best this is only partially true. Americans were given the cold shoulder at times abroad during the Vietnam War. BDS movements hold all members of a country to account for what their governments do.

During Trump 1.0 the image of Americans did go down but often people did not blame all Americans and felt sorry for people in the blue states. Trump 1.0 was seen as a horrific mistake but a fluke that would be corrected which it seemingly was with Trump’s defeat in 2020. Although the insurrection failed it did make people wonder. The first part of Biden’s administration did seem to provide evidence that America was correcting itself and anti American feelings were going back to normal.

The period before the 2024 election saw America doing things that Banana Republics do. Specifically I am referring to how Biden’s senility was handled by the Democratic Party and how the prosecutions of Donald Trump was handled. No matter what you think of Biden’s Mideast policies they significantly hurt America’s image. The above is a long way of saying that if Harris won America’s reputation still would be in the shitter.

But of course Harris did not win. When Trump was elected the first time it could be explained away as a pure protest vote because nobody thought he could win or because once he became President he would act more presidential. The insurrection had not happened. None of that was the case on November 5, 2024 and that is why America’s reputation has taken a hit to a degree we here and maybe those elsewhere can not comprehend.

The above may not be obvious for a while because so many countries have become so dependent on us. The longer you do not address a problem the harder it becomes to address. So other governments are going to continue to cave in to Trump making him seem unstoppable. I would shocked if most countries if they have not done so already are not drawing up long term plans to disengage from the United States as much as possible. Individual citizens of these countries do not need to take into consideration factors their governments do.

I started off by guessing it will take at least a generation for America’s reputation to recover. I based that on being Jewish growing up a generation after the Holocaust and seeing my peers not blaming our German peers for what their parents did and did not do. There are some big caveats to that. We are only a few weeks into Trump 2.0 it is really difficult to think about how bad this can get. Also the guess is based on the assumption that we can eventually correct and recover from self inflicted wound after self inflicted wound. I am not confident about that.


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Today, 1:57 pm

^"I would shocked if most countries if they have not done so already are not drawing up long term plans to disengage from the United States as much as possible." That pretty much summons up what I am talking about. Europe has for a long time been rather naive about the US and thinking along the line "If the US takes care of of our defence that's good! That way we save money for other things like public healthcare." When Europe spend more money on defence it gets more independent from the US. That way the US saves money but loses power. The US has proved it can't be trusted. When Trump is gone. Somebody like him can be elected in the future. And when that happens Europe don't want that to be the most powerful man in the world. I don't think there is a going back from this lesson learned.


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