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14 Feb 2025, 2:35 pm

I'm currently episcopalian but am thinking about converting to the Eastern Orthodox church (OCA), anybody here EO?


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14 Feb 2025, 2:45 pm

What's the appeal of trading in one flavour of Christianity for another?


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14 Feb 2025, 2:49 pm

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What's the appeal of trading in one flavour of Christianity for another?


Different types of liturgy and beliefs. For instance The Episcopal Church allows a variety of liturgy and theological positions but in the Eastern Orthodox church there's a lot less variance.


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14 Feb 2025, 2:54 pm

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funeralxempire wrote:
What's the appeal of trading in one flavour of Christianity for another?


Different types of liturgy and beliefs. For instance The Episcopal Church allows a variety of liturgy and theological positions but in the Eastern Orthodox church there's a lot less variance.


Do you know if your beliefs even align with the EO church? If they're less tolerant of dissenting views you should make sure that you're aligned with their views.

Are your beliefs not aligned with the Episcopal church?


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14 Feb 2025, 2:59 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
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What's the appeal of trading in one flavour of Christianity for another?


Different types of liturgy and beliefs. For instance The Episcopal Church allows a variety of liturgy and theological positions but in the Eastern Orthodox church there's a lot less variance.


Do you know if your beliefs even align with the EO church? If they're less tolerant of dissenting views you should make sure that you're aligned with their views.

Are your beliefs not aligned with the Episcopal church?


For the most part. The EO is something I've always considered and as I read more about it, the more I agree with it.

The Episcopal Church is just....wild at the moment. 8O


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14 Feb 2025, 3:01 pm

Why is the Episcopal Church wild right now? I’ve not heard anything about it that I can recall.


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14 Feb 2025, 3:04 pm

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Why is the Episcopal Church wild right now? I’ve not heard anything about it that I can recall.


I think it has to do with Rev. Budde's scathing rebuke of Trump and Vance.

In other words, real Christianity.


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14 Feb 2025, 3:05 pm

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Why is the Episcopal Church wild right now? I’ve not heard anything about it that I can recall.


I think it has to do with Rev. Budde's scathing rebuke of Trump and Vance.

In other words, real Christianity.

Oh yes! I forgot she was Episcopalian. That was awesome.


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14 Feb 2025, 3:06 pm

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Why is the Episcopal Church wild right now? I’ve not heard anything about it that I can recall.


I think it has to do with Rev. Budde's scathing rebuke of Trump and Vance.

In other words, real Christianity.


That's just the most recent. The real issues that I have concerns are over open communion and the lack of any hard doctrine amongst the laity.


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14 Feb 2025, 3:12 pm

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The real issues that I have concerns are over open communion


I'm curious what your criticisms of open communion are, if you're willing to explain.


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14 Feb 2025, 3:23 pm

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The real issues that I have concerns are over open communion


I'm curious what your criticisms of open communion are, if you're willing to explain.


For sure. So The Episcopal Church officially practices a form of closed communion in that only Christians baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, can take the eucharist. Other denominations practice a stricter form that only allows members of that denomination.

There are many proponents of allowing the unbaptized to participate in communion. Which makes no sense to me as theologically speaking, baptism is the entrance to the church and Christianity, and communion is not. Also historically it goes against the ancient church and church fathers.


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14 Feb 2025, 3:33 pm

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funeralxempire wrote:
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The real issues that I have concerns are over open communion


I'm curious what your criticisms of open communion are, if you're willing to explain.


For sure. So The Episcopal Church officially practices a form of closed communion in that only Christians baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, can take the eucharist. Other denominations practice a stricter form that only allows members of that denomination.

There are many proponents of allowing the unbaptized to participate in communion. Which makes no sense to me as theologically speaking, baptism is the entrance to the church and Christianity, and communion is not. Also historically it goes against the ancient church and church fathers.


I guess there's two main considerations, a) if open communion makes the church more welcoming and leads to increased attendance; and also b) if the early church's preference was for pragmatic reasons or if there was a deeper theological argument for doing it that way.

It makes sense that the early church would only allow the initiated to participate in their mysteries, both because that was the norm among mystery cults and also because they were afraid of persecution. Those are both pragmatic reasons, unless they're really invested in the mystery cult aspect and the desire to keep their 'revealed truths' reserved for only those who've been initiated. Then again if that were the reasoning they wouldn't allow non-baptized people even attend.

I don't have a dog in that fight so I don't believe one position is more correct than the other, I think arguments for either position could be made and that ultimately whatever helps drive attendance is probably what's best aligned with their actual goals.


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17 Feb 2025, 8:21 pm

receptionistandfarmer wrote:
I'm currently episcopalian but am thinking about converting to the Eastern Orthodox church (OCA), anybody here EO?


No I am Church of Christ not Eastern Orthodox.



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18 Feb 2025, 10:35 am

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
receptionistandfarmer wrote:
I'm currently episcopalian but am thinking about converting to the Eastern Orthodox church (OCA), anybody here EO?


No I am Church of Christ not Eastern Orthodox.



What's Church of Christ? like the United Church of Christ (UCC)?


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18 Feb 2025, 11:04 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churches_of_Christ

Texasmoneyman300, is this a decent summary?


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18 Feb 2025, 11:15 am

funeralxempire wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churches_of_Christ

Texasmoneyman300, is this a decent summary?


Yes that is decent