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15 Feb 2025, 10:20 pm

I just found out 2 of my favorite kids are leaving the school. One is going to catholic school and the other is moving to another city this summer because her parents saved up to buy a trailer. At first when the 2nd girl told me her parents wanted to buy a trailer I asked her where and her answer didn't make sense. After talking to her teacher who said she just says random stuff she fantasizes about happening, I just brushed it off until yesterday when she told me her pépère was going to help them buy it now and she'll be gone over the summer. As soon as I heard this, I almost broke down in tears right there. I had to walk away from her and hide my tears until bedtime when I could cry in the privacy of my room. The thing is, every school day for the last 4 years I've made it a point to talk to these girls during their lunch, even if it's just a 5 minute check in.

It seems to me like I get way too attached to people and I think it's the autism. Every time someone moves away or leaves me, I become very attached to someone else shortly after. I don't know what to do, but I know this isn't healthy for me and that I need professional help from my social worker. I just don't know exactly how he can help me professionally other than just saying that sometimes kids move on and I have to realize it's for their own good, but I can remember the good times etc., which us just generic advice that I already know. I wish it were that simple, but for people with autism, it isn't. Especially women. :roll: :cry:



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15 Feb 2025, 10:25 pm

I get emotionally attached to people very easily, and get super depressed when they leave social media (and there's no other way to get a hold of them), or take a long absence.

BTW, I like your avatar. Are you a Simpsons fan?


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15 Feb 2025, 10:29 pm

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I get emotionally attached to people very easily, and get super depressed when they leave social media (and there's no other way to get a hold of them), or take a long absence.

So how do you handle it? What do you do to help heal your aching heart?



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16 Feb 2025, 6:26 am

Most people do not appreciate how different modern life is from how all life on earth was up until 100 years ago.People had broad and deep relationships. Most grew up lived and died where they were born. Families had large numbers of siblings and cousins.

In contrast today people can be relationally deficient. Those of us with Aspergers can start with a relational deficit because our interior life may be a barrier to making what relational connections we can.

Your relational connections with the children you deal with can supply you with an emotional connection that most of us do not have. The fact that it can be time limited should be understood. While you have drawn emotional satisfaction from your connection with these children, it can be perhaps beneficial to focus one what help you were able to give them in the time you had available. By focusing on what you were able to do for them, you might be able to reduce what you know you will be losing for yourself.



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16 Feb 2025, 9:45 am

I can also get exceptionally attached to people. I think it's definitely an Autism thing for me. Because I feel so deeply, that includes the feelings that I have for people. It's scary how we were pathologized for so long as unfeeling when, in fact, many of us feel everything so much more powerfully than nts can.


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16 Feb 2025, 8:44 pm

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I can also get exceptionally attached to people. I think it's definitely an Autism thing for me. Because I feel so deeply, that includes the feelings that I have for people. It's scary how we were pathologized for so long as unfeeling when, in fact, many of us feel everything so much more powerfully than nts can.


You make a great point here. I'm just not sure what I can do about this. The fact is I have to do something to solve this problem because when these 2 girls are gone for good, there'll be 2 more kids to replace them pretty quick. Also, it's not just kids. I have had adult friends that I felt a very deep connection with who have left me for being "too clingy" which I admit I sometimes am, but I can't help it on my own. It really was sad to hear that the 2nd girl is moving to the trailer park because we seem to have so much in common that we discuss frequently. She has a very similar first name to mine and we share the same middle name. She has a memmere that she spends a lot of time with as well as I do and she always tells me about all of their adventures. She hasn't learned to ride a bike yet and neither have I. She says she wants to try it again, but isn't quite sure if she can. She loves eating cheese and so do I. Over the past 4 years, we've sort of bonded in a way over these things. Whenever she needs something or there's an issue at lunch, I'm usually the first one she calls over, despite there being 3 to 4 other adults walking around the cafeteria. I'm just not sure how I will react when she moves for good. I mean I've already cried about it and it hasn't even happened yet. :cry:



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16 Feb 2025, 10:07 pm

Probably.

I get attached easily. It's mostly a familiarity and predictability thingy, translated into a form of loyalty and devotion.

I'm also the type who doubts everything emotional, subtle and "instinctive", with enough inner security to just not just cling or hold onto something too much.
Nor have a hole in my heart to fill something -- I have an excess instead.

I do so because I hate my subconscious enough to defy it.
I either have no interest in a particular manner to have an attachment, or be attached.

However, if I do get attached...
I prefer to be conscious and be intentional over it. I prefer to understand it's implications than just blindly follow through it.

So I will be very picky over it.

Not feeling loneliness or jealously, or the overall social neediness made is so easier.


As someone with too much internal sensitivities...
I already have enough crap with dysfunctional heightened emotionality itself to a point I prefer to be one of those commonly accused "emotionally deficit and cold" types.

So I prefer to go through the direct, conscious, rational route. After all, there are too many claims that rationality is not the true opposite of emotionality -- so why not see emotionality having a form of rules or physics itself?


It's like being an empath...
... Except I refuse to be a weak empath -- easily exploited, easily influenced, easily dysregulated, easily blinded by feelings, easily used by others' feelings, and without looking at the reality of social dynamics...


If it matters ...
I just treat parting just like another transition to adjust to.

The contrast is there, but whatever higher beliefs and knowing that exists in me will be there to help me stabilize it (the sense of interconnectedness, to see the natural outcomes and reality from it).

Just like any interruption, just like any abruption, just like a sudden need to shift gears -- only that the deeper the attachment, the bigger the gear will be...


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17 Feb 2025, 7:37 pm

Edna3362 wrote:
Probably.

I get attached easily. It's mostly a familiarity and predictability thingy, translated into a form of loyalty and devotion.

I'm also the type who doubts everything emotional, subtle and "instinctive", with enough inner security to just not just cling or hold onto something too much.
Nor have a hole in my heart to fill something -- I have an excess instead.

I do so because I hate my subconscious enough to defy it.
I either have no interest in a particular manner to have an attachment, or be attached.

However, if I do get attached...
I prefer to be conscious and be intentional over it. I prefer to understand it's implications than just blindly follow through it.

So I will be very picky over it.

Not feeling loneliness or jealously, or the overall social neediness made is so easier.


As someone with too much internal sensitivities...
I already have enough crap with dysfunctional heightened emotionality itself to a point I prefer to be one of those commonly accused "emotionally deficit and cold" types.

So I prefer to go through the direct, conscious, rational route. After all, there are too many claims that rationality is not the true opposite of emotionality -- so why not see emotionality having a form of rules or physics itself?


It's like being an empath...
... Except I refuse to be a weak empath -- easily exploited, easily influenced, easily dysregulated, easily blinded by feelings, easily used by others' feelings, and without looking at the reality of social dynamics...


If it matters ...
I just treat parting just like another transition to adjust to.

The contrast is there, but whatever higher beliefs and knowing that exists in me will be there to help me stabilize it (the sense of interconnectedness, to see the natural outcomes and reality from it).

Just like any interruption, just like any abruption, just like a sudden need to shift gears -- only that the deeper the attachment, the bigger the gear will be...

Please don't take offense, but to me your response is very confusing. I can't just pick and choose who I become attached to. I can try, but sometimes my strong emotions take over. It's like the old saying that teachers aren't supposed to have favorites. I have news for you. Your teachers lied to you about that when they said they like everyone equally etc. They ALL had favorites in their classrooms. Maybe you were one of them and I hope so, but maybe you weren't. Well it's the same with the aids. My coworkers and I talk in the morning before starting school in the teachers room and there are some kids they can't stand that I love and vice versa. Conversely there are some students who we all agree to like or dislike for whatever reason. The kid who throws a fit and makes fun of my height when I ask him to sit the right way at lunch? Not my favorite at all. A kid I can talk to about her French upbringing, her memmere, and her food while she both has a good sense of humor when it comes to making jokes, but knows where the line is and has manners? That's my kind of kid! I'm not saying that you can't control your attachments because maybe you can, but all I'm saying is for me it becomes far more difficult to do so.



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17 Feb 2025, 9:11 pm

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Edna3362 wrote:
Probably.

I get attached easily. It's mostly a familiarity and predictability thingy, translated into a form of loyalty and devotion.

I'm also the type who doubts everything emotional, subtle and "instinctive", with enough inner security to just not just cling or hold onto something too much.
Nor have a hole in my heart to fill something -- I have an excess instead.

I do so because I hate my subconscious enough to defy it.
I either have no interest in a particular manner to have an attachment, or be attached.

However, if I do get attached...
I prefer to be conscious and be intentional over it. I prefer to understand it's implications than just blindly follow through it.

So I will be very picky over it.

Not feeling loneliness or jealously, or the overall social neediness made is so easier.


As someone with too much internal sensitivities...
I already have enough crap with dysfunctional heightened emotionality itself to a point I prefer to be one of those commonly accused "emotionally deficit and cold" types.

So I prefer to go through the direct, conscious, rational route. After all, there are too many claims that rationality is not the true opposite of emotionality -- so why not see emotionality having a form of rules or physics itself?


It's like being an empath...
... Except I refuse to be a weak empath -- easily exploited, easily influenced, easily dysregulated, easily blinded by feelings, easily used by others' feelings, and without looking at the reality of social dynamics...


If it matters ...
I just treat parting just like another transition to adjust to.

The contrast is there, but whatever higher beliefs and knowing that exists in me will be there to help me stabilize it (the sense of interconnectedness, to see the natural outcomes and reality from it).

Just like any interruption, just like any abruption, just like a sudden need to shift gears -- only that the deeper the attachment, the bigger the gear will be...

Please don't take offense, but to me your response is very confusing. I can't just pick and choose who I become attached to. I can try, but sometimes my strong emotions take over. It's like the old saying that teachers aren't supposed to have favorites. I have news for you. Your teachers lied to you about that when they said they like everyone equally etc. They ALL had favorites in their classrooms. Maybe you were one of them and I hope so, but maybe you weren't. Well it's the same with the aids. My coworkers and I talk in the morning before starting school in the teachers room and there are some kids they can't stand that I love and vice versa. Conversely there are some students who we all agree to like or dislike for whatever reason. The kid who throws a fit and makes fun of my height when I ask him to sit the right way at lunch? Not my favorite at all. A kid I can talk to about her French upbringing, her memmere, and her food while she both has a good sense of humor when it comes to making jokes, but knows where the line is and has manners? That's my kind of kid! I'm not saying that you can't control your attachments because maybe you can, but all I'm saying is for me it becomes far more difficult to do so.

It's understandable.

It was something I strove since I was a child.

Not out of hurt, but because emotions in general, positive and negative, had brought more loss of control than any autistic related factors.
And whatever people's claims of fulfilled emotional life just doesn't reflect.

No child would even try to do that; figuring how feelings work deeper than just right or wrong, appropriate or inappropriate, good or bad.

That's not typical for any human child to want to attain that at all.

Let alone one had continuously try for decades long of picking the details and subtleties of emotionality.
Let alone experiment several dimensions of contrasts -- most humans would accomodate feelings as if no different than a form of hunger. I just don't see it that way.


Most humans would quickly think that when an attachment is formed, it's a form of emotional opportunity... That they may either neglect because of other priorities, or pursue so much so they'd neglect everything else.

If one has an adequate executive functioning, balance would be more achievable.
But I frequently lose reliable and consistent executive function. Thus I cannot afford something like that lack of control.

And that not having one as often, to many who do, is a form of missing out. I genuinely do not understand these types of people.

And outright baffled at people who even declared I'm missing out by my lack of interest, especially and particularly in different aspects of human relationships (romantic, sexual...)


Many would lose their ability to be attached out of protection. I do not have that option.

The same way most people, if they feel too much, they'd start distancing themselves from their feelings or double it down and make it a part of themselves. I do not have that option.


I do not judge people who has 'no control' nor 'having no choice' because "feelings".
I understand that too much of it.

Except I've done something about it for myself.

It just took me basically most of my life to figure it out, in which most people never had to question because they can afford to.
Or that they don't have the means to get out of it.

Most people do not spend a fraction of their brainpower, forced to figure their internal subtleties everyday else they'd be a helpless subject to it.

Most people never had to study themselves to understand what causes attachment.
To them it's just is. And because of that, they gotta go to therapy or something.
Not because of frequency of attachment, but the effects of attachments itself.

You're just like everyone else on this earth, just like any human when it came to their emotions.

And as much as I tried to relate as a form of seeking a reference in hopes something could mirror mine, after for most of my life looking a form of external understanding, I'm quite sure not one of them.



Effects of my attachment to my mother is too deep. It doesn't matter if I love her or like her.
The consequences will be immense if she parted for good because of some form of enmeshment. Enmeshment is not healthy. She's probably the last person to understand me.
As any child to any parent caregiver, there will be interferences. Her patterns are not compatible with mine both in foundation and in aspiration.

Effects of my attachment towards particular people could vary.
It doesn't matter what the basis is -- a good laugh, an ache, even a petty encounter...

Attachments is not necessarily a good feel thing to me, it could be anything emotionally tied, no different than a grudge that I couldn't let go or a joke that I couldn't get over it.

Really. And I cannot afford to live that way.

Death or loss; I treat it as no different than a long term parting. I could miss a person, I could grieve.
But like a grudge I couldn't let go or a joke I couldn't get over, I cannot exactly afford grieving the same manner.

To many, anything emotional, they always has have this step 3-4, usually after expressing their feelings, it goes closer and closer to an end that they'll gradually move on.

That doesn't happen to me.
Mine just multiplies. Doesn't matter how many people are there, or/and how safe it is for me to express it.

It's either piling up over time or I have to end it soon. The same goes with being attached. The same goes if my own mind wants to be an enabler, or if my own body becomes one like usual.


TLDR;

I have zero faith and do not identify well in anything related to human 'instincts'.
Unlike most people who can afford to.

So I sought to understand it. It took me most of my life. Most people don't do that.

Most people do not do that because; they do not have too strong interoception that made their everyday emotions feel like a chaotic wave of interruption and sensory nuisance.

Let alone anything around attachments and anything related to it.

Most people would just accept this as a "part of being a human".
I don't. I feel too human. I want to be less human. Or at least be deliberate about it.


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I get emotionally attached to people a lot. Every time my family had company, I would get attached to relatives or family friends. If they seemed to understand me, I got attached.


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Yeah. As I said in my previous post about this, I will try to talk to my social worker about this on Saturday. The only problem I have is sometimes talking about sad things makes me cry and I don't like to cry in front of anyone. I have only been to one session in my entire life where I cried and it was years ago. Now I only prefer to cry alone in bed.