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22 Feb 2025, 7:31 pm

cyberdora wrote:
Infact trump wants Zelensky to give back every cent in aid - $350 billion
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... 4581891df0


The more accurate number is probably about a third of that amount:
https://fullfact.org/news/us-assistance-ukraine/

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The Kiel Institute for the World Economy, a research institute in Germany, tracks international military, financial and humanitarian assistance allocated and committed to Ukraine since 2022. It estimates the total international assistance committed to Ukraine by the US and European countries since 2022 is approximately €366 billion (about $383 billion)—about one-third of which has come from the US.



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22 Feb 2025, 7:34 pm

Yeah but trump always makes up stuff, exaggerated for effect.



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22 Feb 2025, 7:35 pm

cyberdora wrote:
Yeah but trump always makes up stuff, exaggerated for effect.


Exactly!



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22 Feb 2025, 7:37 pm

So now we can see why Zelensky is using the EU to block trump's plans.



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22 Feb 2025, 7:53 pm

cyberdora wrote:
So now we can see why Zelensky is using the EU to block trump's plans.


EU is mostly agreeing that Russia needs to be stopped. In the EU, there is a solidarity fund, in cases of natural or man-caused disasters, even for countries like Ukraine that are aspiring EU countries and are suffering invasion. People here stand with Ukraine.

My country got over 1 billion euros after earthquakes destroyed some parts of it. Were we using the EU?



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cyberdora wrote:
Yeah but trump always makes up stuff, exaggerated for effect.

Trump can't be taken seriously. He is an antagonist to the morals and values of western Europe and EU - "the free world". When dealing with him you have to keep that in mind while at the same time remembering that he's very powerful as the President of the US. You can't simply tell him to his face that's he's an idiot.


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Yesterday, 3:32 pm

Expecting retrospective aid to be paid back from Ukraine is a pipe dream. Especially when plenty of it is locked away in foreign bank accounts.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68120973
Unverified claims suggest the amount of foreign aid unaccounted for could be as high as $100 billion, although this has been difficult to confirm.

But at the same time Zelensky knows he can expect money to keep flowing to Ukraine from the US. Hence his overtures to other European nations.