Apparently doing things these ways are not normal
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2. "When someone tells me a story and I respond by telling a similar story. I thought I was showing that I understand how they feel, but apparently it’s me making it about myself. Whoops."
—ireallyhavenoideea
3. "I always thought it was completely normal to rehearse conversations in my head before having them — like, full-on scripts for every possible response. When someone finally told me most people don’t do that, I was honestly shocked. It blew my mind that people just wing social interactions without a mental rehearsal. Still can’t imagine how that works."
—SpicyPeachBabe
4. "For me, tone is always an issue. I think I'm trying to be very polite, and people will tell me I am rude or demanding. I'm diagnosed ADHD, but as my wife's good friend who makes diagnoses for neurodivergent children put it, 'If [my name] doesn't have autism, I don't know who the f*** does.'"
5. "The fact that I have to consciously tell myself to show expressions during conversations. 'It's time to smile now,' 'People are laughing, I need to laugh too,' "Remember to look at the person talking.' For so long I just thought that was how people worked. The fact that it comes naturally for most people is still kind of hard to understand."
—pafdoot
6. "I used to think there was no way I was autistic because I was SO GOOD at eye contact, not realizing that spending an entire conversation forgetting to listen to what the other person is saying because you’re concentrating so hard on making an appropriate amount of eye contact is actually not normal."
—brinncognito
7. "Apparently people can have conversations with others in a loud environment. I had my hearing checked because I legitimately can’t hear a word people say at parties, but it turns out it's just sensory processing disorder."
8. "My paternal grandma told me that avoiding eye contact made me look shady, so I would lock eyes until my eyes watered and the person I was staring at was supremely uncomfortable. At age 30, I was finally diagnosed. Now I'm not an owl peeking into your soul."
—Radkeyoo
9. "I only just this year learned the term 'maladaptive daydreaming.' I had no idea it was uncommon to space out so thoroughly in one's head as to be completely oblivious to all external sensory input for an hour or longer."
—xyanon36
10. "I'm neurotypical, but my wife is autistic and one time, we had a dinner party with her work friends from their elementary school. The other women said teaching special ed is hard because they must learn to communicate with the kids. She said teaching special ed is easy for her, and she finds it harder to communicate with general ed kids."
11. "Needing people to have factually correct information. I was in my late 30s before I understood that it was considered rude by neurotypical people to correct their incorrect beliefs about the world. If something I believe to be true is wrong, then I would like to be corrected — with reliable sources, of course. Who wants to walk around with scientifically incorrect information?"
—ghouldozer19
12. "I took everything literally. I didn't pick up social cues or realize people were saying things to be polite. It caused me to think people were liars or full of sh*t because they didn't do or say what they said they would. To be fair, I still do. If you aren't going to do it, don't say it! I'm just saying."
—Reasonable_Bat_3178
13. "I thought it was normal to obsessively research my interests until I knew everything about them."
—Neither_Bluebird_645
14. "It took me until well into my 20s to realize that consent could be applied to things other than sex. I generally don't like being touched, but my entire life, people demanded I hug them. Friends, family, people at school, neighbors, whatever. When I didn't, they would tell me I was rude, or they would make fun of me for hugging them weirdly. When I was around 25, I made a new friend and after the first time I went to her place, she tried to hug me goodbye. I was, of course, weird as f*ck about it. The next time I saw her she apologized for it, but I was so confused by that. Why would you apologize? Nobody else gives a sh*t that I don't like it. This is just another social convention that I have to put up with. "
15. "I thought it was normal to have to learn human behavior and reactions. I had a journal as a kid where I wrote down what certain actions, facial expressions, and body language meant. I showed it to a friend who said, 'Duh, everyone knows that.'"
—alldemboats
16. "When I started to figure out I was autistic a few years ago, my husband commented about the fact that I don't try to make people like me. I was like, 'What do you mean?' He explained most people try to endear themselves to the people around them, such as with coworkers or in-laws. I didn't think it was any of my business what people thought of me, let alone that I was supposed to be trying to make people like me."
—StrangeFarulf
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No. 11 drives me crazier than ever now, thanks to something called social media. You tell people something that is the truth because you just can't stand to continue seeing them wallow in their blind, mindlessly faithful ignorance, and they act like you're the worst human being in the world.
Seriously, I once read a story about someone who ordered half a dozen Chicken McNuggets, and the adolescent cashier told them, "We only sell them in boxes of 6, 8 and 10". The customer asked, "You have boxes of 6 McNuggets but not half a dozen McNuggets?", and the cashier said "That's right." the customer said said "I'll have 6 McNuggets, please".
You see, I could never do that without telling the cashier that half a dozen and 6 ARE THE SAME NUMBER.
As an 8 year old, I already knew I'm not "normal".
And, just to happened to double it down -- i.e. not masking, going to a different trajectory in understanding humans and humanity, etc.
2. I make the same mistake whenever I'm trying to sympathize in an impulsive sense -- I call it an attempt to resonate.
I stopped trying because I figured I'd rather not be impulsive about anything emotional.
3. I cannot relate to this.
Probably because I don't think in words and conversations. I never even plan anything to talk or ever socialize.
4. My tone is that way all because I really am not in a mood. And that's most of the time.
It won't be an issue to me if I can switch from 1 to 100.
5. I just don't do this either. Regardless, it's just as unnatural as one says it is if I tried.
6. I don't even count or ever be conscious of what eye contact is, let alone even cared.
But sure, if I voluntarily do eye contact, it's to predate them or ignore their words in favor of something else. And they mistook it for interest...

7. This was untrue to me until I had a burnout around the age of 24 when auditory processing starts to happen.
Had evidence that I do not have this particular trait or issue in earlier years.
8. Really, I cannot relate to eye contact stories. Likely because no one's forcing me to and more about my own terms than others'. Also maybe because this is culturally relative.
9. Yeah. I figured that one out too. Except in my case, I managed to overcome mine for good -- since last year. Never seen another account who ever did, too.
10. I do get the gist of this. Because NTs runs on whatever allistic based assumptions and whatever interpretation than a detailed type in communications.
11. I already figured this out by the time I was 10 or so. Likely because I'm that "lenient", wanting to be beyond right and wrong, and somehow find the typical rigid being right all the time as exhausting.
12. Being literal, yes. Being polite -- I just assume everyone is being polite and not truly intentionally good.
Especially knowing I have connections, of course I figured.
13. I figured this out when I was 14; when I figured that people don't normally focus as intensely.
14. I developed hyperindependence as a kid. So my concept of consent had been through much, much earlier than an average kid even. Thus I'm quite upfront about it, defensive about it even.
15. I don't do this either. I understand the impact and implications but not the appeal.
Again, unless I have the affective flexibility to pull it off and just do it naturally -- which tend to happen because I have the prerequisites of not having dyspraxia/dyssemia/etc ..
16. I think this is more of a self esteem issue. Something I couldn't relate well even amongst autistics.
I can very much add my own list.
Even things that aren't even normal for autistics that I had thought was normal for autistics.
And it's not some rigid form of 'every autistic should have this trait/experience' kind of mentality either.
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Seriously, I once read a story about someone who ordered half a dozen Chicken McNuggets, and the adolescent cashier told them, "We only sell them in boxes of 6, 8 and 10". The customer asked, "You have boxes of 6 McNuggets but not half a dozen McNuggets?", and the cashier said "That's right." the customer said said "I'll have 6 McNuggets, please".
You see, I could never do that without telling the cashier that half a dozen and 6 ARE THE SAME NUMBER.

Honestly, I'm a dunce when it comes to such things as well. I often forget what terms such as a dozen or half a dozen mean because they are terms that I do not come across very often in my life.
I hate it when I do encounter someone using these these terms because I don't want to look stupid by asking for clarification. However, I don't mind it if a customer tells me 'Six is half a dozen' because I'm trying to memorise that information for future reference. So sometimes I'll ask anyway and brace myself for what happens next.
What I freaking hate is when they get annoyed and angry at you for not knowing in the first place because 'it's common knowledge!' and that I've wasted their time.
A lot of things that are apparently common knowledge are not common knowledge to me and yet I know some impressive things about niche topics. I tend to struggle to learn information if it's not interesting to me but I do try to memorise information that crops up such as this so that I can avoid these scenarios and make them run smoother. Sometimes I come across as stupid and maybe I am in some areas. However, I think it's a fairly spiky profile and I wish that was better understood.
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2. "When someone tells me a story and I respond by telling a similar story. I thought I was showing that I understand how they feel, but apparently it’s me making it about myself. Whoops."
—ireallyhavenoideea
3. "I always thought it was completely normal to rehearse conversations in my head before having them — like, full-on scripts for every possible response. When someone finally told me most people don’t do that, I was honestly shocked. It blew my mind that people just wing social interactions without a mental rehearsal. Still can’t imagine how that works."
—SpicyPeachBabe
4. "For me, tone is always an issue. I think I'm trying to be very polite, and people will tell me I am rude or demanding. I'm diagnosed ADHD, but as my wife's good friend who makes diagnoses for neurodivergent children put it, 'If [my name] doesn't have autism, I don't know who the f*** does.'"
5. "The fact that I have to consciously tell myself to show expressions during conversations. 'It's time to smile now,' 'People are laughing, I need to laugh too,' "Remember to look at the person talking.' For so long I just thought that was how people worked. The fact that it comes naturally for most people is still kind of hard to understand."
—pafdoot
6. "I used to think there was no way I was autistic because I was SO GOOD at eye contact, not realizing that spending an entire conversation forgetting to listen to what the other person is saying because you’re concentrating so hard on making an appropriate amount of eye contact is actually not normal."
—brinncognito
7. "Apparently people can have conversations with others in a loud environment. I had my hearing checked because I legitimately can’t hear a word people say at parties, but it turns out it's just sensory processing disorder."
8. "My paternal grandma told me that avoiding eye contact made me look shady, so I would lock eyes until my eyes watered and the person I was staring at was supremely uncomfortable. At age 30, I was finally diagnosed. Now I'm not an owl peeking into your soul."
—Radkeyoo
9. "I only just this year learned the term 'maladaptive daydreaming.' I had no idea it was uncommon to space out so thoroughly in one's head as to be completely oblivious to all external sensory input for an hour or longer."
—xyanon36
10. "I'm neurotypical, but my wife is autistic and one time, we had a dinner party with her work friends from their elementary school. The other women said teaching special ed is hard because they must learn to communicate with the kids. She said teaching special ed is easy for her, and she finds it harder to communicate with general ed kids."
11. "Needing people to have factually correct information. I was in my late 30s before I understood that it was considered rude by neurotypical people to correct their incorrect beliefs about the world. If something I believe to be true is wrong, then I would like to be corrected — with reliable sources, of course. Who wants to walk around with scientifically incorrect information?"
—ghouldozer19
12. "I took everything literally. I didn't pick up social cues or realize people were saying things to be polite. It caused me to think people were liars or full of sh*t because they didn't do or say what they said they would. To be fair, I still do. If you aren't going to do it, don't say it! I'm just saying."
—Reasonable_Bat_3178
13. "I thought it was normal to obsessively research my interests until I knew everything about them."
—Neither_Bluebird_645
14. "It took me until well into my 20s to realize that consent could be applied to things other than sex. I generally don't like being touched, but my entire life, people demanded I hug them. Friends, family, people at school, neighbors, whatever. When I didn't, they would tell me I was rude, or they would make fun of me for hugging them weirdly. When I was around 25, I made a new friend and after the first time I went to her place, she tried to hug me goodbye. I was, of course, weird as f*ck about it. The next time I saw her she apologized for it, but I was so confused by that. Why would you apologize? Nobody else gives a sh*t that I don't like it. This is just another social convention that I have to put up with. "
15. "I thought it was normal to have to learn human behavior and reactions. I had a journal as a kid where I wrote down what certain actions, facial expressions, and body language meant. I showed it to a friend who said, 'Duh, everyone knows that.'"
—alldemboats
16. "When I started to figure out I was autistic a few years ago, my husband commented about the fact that I don't try to make people like me. I was like, 'What do you mean?' He explained most people try to endear themselves to the people around them, such as with coworkers or in-laws. I didn't think it was any of my business what people thought of me, let alone that I was supposed to be trying to make people like me."
—StrangeFarulf
So to recapitulate, if you expect people to read your mind, are shallow, dishonest, and have limited knowledge then you're "normal".
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#1 I tend to be distrusting of others because I'm used to others talking sh!t, BS bragging, & downright lying including by authority figures while in school. I'm also used to others assuming I'm lying when I'm telling the truth & others tending to believe me when I lie.
#2 I do this one aLOT. It's the main way I know how to have conversations. Otherwise I'll usually say very little.
#3 I never rehearse conversations. However I daydream a lot & while daydreaming it's common for me to replay various conversations in my head thinking of things I should/could have said or said differently or not said at all sometimes even decades later.
#4 I've always had problems with others misreading my tone & me misreading others tone so I knew it wasn't normal but I didn't know why till I researched autism a bit.
#5 I never consciously focus on facial expressions & other nonverbal body language. I actually didn't even know NTs noticed that in others till I started researching autism. I'm very used to others misreading me but I did not know how they were doing it or where that was coming from. I figured out the cause after I researched autism some but I never think I should focus on that
#6 I did not know eye contact was a thing with NTs till I started researching autism. I do have a rare low vision disorder & a visual processing disorder though. I often don't look at people while talking to them but I've met more than a few completely blind people & they almost always turn their heads to talk with others even though they cant see them so there's def something else going on with me besides the vision & visual processing disorder.
#7 I probably do have a bit of an authority processing disorder & background noise can make it harder for me to hear but I also sometimes hear/process things wrong in quiet environments. My hearing was teased periodically at my schools & I always tested perfectly which is a bit above normal except one time it was during recess & other kids were outside making noise & I scored a little below average. I was retested when it wasn't during recess & I scored perfectly. I do have ADD & I probably got distracted by the noise from outside instead of focusing on the noise from the headphones. The three jobs I had were in loud environments like dish-washing & custodial stuff in retail while the stores were open & I heard others & the intercom pages while being around or using machines just as well as most anyone else if not better. I kind of just tuned the background noise out though I usually listened to the songs the radios were playing over the PA system while working even when I was by a loud machine. I'm not really sure if it's auditory processing disorder, ADD, or a combo.
#8 I never tried telling myself to make eye contact after learning about it's importance with NTs. I'm too focused on being social, the environment, what the person is saying, & thinking about how I should respond to it.
#9 I likely have maladaptive daydreaming. I knew it's not normal since I was little but I associated it with my ADD which has been diagnosed since kindergarten.
#10 I have NO experience with teaching kids or adults but I do find it tends to be easier for me to get along with others who have various mental issues & learning issues but that could be due to me having dyslexia & being majorly abnormal myself
#11 I relate to this one. However as a kid I learned others do not take me seriously & assume I don't have a clue what I'm taking about or they believe that I'm lying so I don't really try to correct others much since they won't listen anyway & will not consider what I have to say & I'd get in trouble or be teased or bullied more.
#12 I def relate to this one.
#13 I never thought it was normal to obsessively research interests. I didn't get the internet at home till after I graduated high-school in 2001 so I never had the option to research as a kid or teen. The main things my peers talked about using the internet for were music, gaming, email, chatting, & adult stuff. My peers never talked about obsessively researching anything. After getting the net at home I assumed my researching was due to having OCD before I learned about Aspie special interests.
#14 I relate to this. Others quickly learned not to touch me but occasionally adults(usually extended family I didn't see much) pressured me into it. When other kids touched me I would tell on them &/or hit them. My teachers told me they were just being friendly & I got punished for being a bully.
#15 I never paid attention to human behavior or actions. I was too overwhelmed when being social to process it & when I was home I mostly wanted time to myself to wind down & relax. I researched a lot of psychology stuff but I never paid attention nor cared about all the nonverbal body language stuff. I was focused on various disorders & why people have them & how they could better manage them.
#16 As a kid I knew others wanted to be liked & fit in but I just wanted others to leave me alone & let me do my own thing in peace.
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I remember being maybe around 15 and asking my mom why I was so different and back then nobody seemed to know the reason. But it was only because I was told it wasn't normal and therefor "wrong".
When I was in my early 20s I once asked at the group home why someone couldn't just teach me how to have better social skills, and they said that wasn't something normally taught, you're just able to or you're not.
It seemed when I was a teenager it was only not normal if I did certain things but with other kids it was normal. I'd get harassed constantly for my interest in Garfield comics but I'd see other kids walking around wearing Garfield shirts and no one seemed to bother them.
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