Zelenskyy's meeting with Trump, Vance goes very badly

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Same...do you think Ukraine is more important than South Korea?

Russia has not been Communist for decades, it is a kleptocracy, similar to us. When Trump looks at Putin he sees himself. Trump sees the world in a 1800s type of way where the strongest countries had empires and made deals with other empires for the mutual benefit of both parties. In his mind the Russian empire is all of Eastern Europe, The Jewish Empire all of the mideast, The American Empire Canada, Finland etc.

We had several ways of describing people like Trump, bullies, as*holes, a person who needs to be committed to an institution.

This is not about Trump loving Putin it’s about Trump being butthurt that Zelenskyy dares to resist Trump attempt steal Ukraine’s natural resources.

Trump is the schoolyard bully who got away with everything because classmates joined in either because they are sadists who enjoy tormenting the weak, or they were intimidated by the bully. In order to be impeached and convicted you need congress to go along and right now the Republican Party is the equivalent of the class that lets the bully get away with everything for those two reasons. Republicans politicians know resistance is futile as all the never Trump Republicans and Conservatives have been primaried out or quit before that happened.

Up until now the forced out never Trump people at least had platforms like
MSNBC and the Washington Post. Those doors are closing because their owners have figured out
resisting Trump is a money losing proposition and are bending the knee. If you don’t know what I am talking about Google or AI Jeff Bezos and MSNBC shakeup.

Right now pretty much everyone who is appalled by Trump be they never Trump conservatives, moderates, neoliberals, old school liberals, wokes etc are both exhausted and at a loss over what to do because most every option that has been tried to stop Trump over the past decade has eventually failed.

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It's not the same - this isn't a civil war. We're talking about a sovereign country being invaded by its neighbour. And no, Ukrainians aren't Russians.

The war will end immediately if Russia stops its unprovoked and unjustifiable attack; Ukraine will end if it stops fighting back.

At what point does "compromise" become "capitulation"?
Other parts of Europe will be next.
You'd actually trust Putin?