Zelenskyy's meeting with Trump, Vance goes very badly

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Yesterday, 3:39 pm

Unbiased news literally doesn't exist, so you repeatedly insisting that she's unbiased is mostly an admission you're not able to evaluate bias effectively. Ironically, a lot of Indian nationals dismiss her as an example of godi media (lapdog media).

As for that site, it's worth noting that they don't evaluate media outlets for whether or not they repeat any particular state's propaganda claims uncritically, making them useless when evaluating Firstpost repeating Russian narratives uncritically.


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Yesterday, 3:47 pm

Trump 2.0 has been a wakeup call for many. My question is why were other countries sleeping so long? Ask the Afghans how reliable we are. The signs that we are becoming a dysfunctional country have been obvious for years and years now.

Biden is not without fault here. He gave Ukraine enough help not to lose but not enough to win. We have been doing this s**t for decades. The American public is impatient so losing support or at least the initial enthusiasm was inevitable. There was legitimate fear that giving Ukraine enough to win would lead to war with Russia which could go nuclear. We did let the Soviet Union subjugate Hungary and Czechoslovakia during the cold war. On the other hand Russia is not the old Soviet Union. Tough call but doing it the way we did it is trying to have it both ways which does not work.

Trump supporting zionists need to take a good look at what happened here. He will turn on you in an instant if you don’t do exactly what he wants.


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Yesterday, 4:10 pm

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jd-vance-and-family-flee-to-undisclosed-location-due-to-angry-mob-after-zelensky-fallout/ar-AA1A3ZDa

What was Vance doing in Bernie Country anyway? VT is not only the bluest state in the country, but their entire Congressional delegation is in the Progressive Caucus (Bernie, Peter Welch and Becca Balint).


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Yesterday, 4:13 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jd-vance-and-family-flee-to-undisclosed-location-due-to-angry-mob-after-zelensky-fallout/ar-AA1A3ZDa

What was Vance doing in Bernie Country anyway? VT is not only the bluest state in the country, but their entire Congressional delegation is in the Progressive Caucus (Bernie, Peter Welch and Becca Balint).


He figured he could pwn the libs only to realize half way through he lacks the intestinal fortitude to pwn anyone.


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Yesterday, 4:20 pm

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an unbiased view of the Ukraine situation which pretty much says what I've been trying to say. Now I'm out.

Oh enough. I have had enough of spending my life tolerating people who advocate "unbiased" this, "moderate" that. Do you know how biased you have to be to think this is a Both Sides conflict? Being neutral in this conflict is a sign of many things, but it is NOT a sign of objectivity.

People, mainly on the right and center, have this obnoxious tendency to act like having a strong opinion is a sign of bias or irrationality. The opposite is true. We live in a society that kisses those people's asses because we, as a society, lack the courage to stand up and say: "Yes both sides are imperfect, but one side is still infinitely more to blame than the other."
People's refusal to take sides in the name of "objectivity" is nothing but a sign of moral spinelessness. Sometimes one side is right, the other is wrong, and you're wrong for suggesting both sides have something valuable to say. They don't. No Putin or Trump apologist has anything worth saying on the subject. Sorry if my moral certainty is upsetting to those who would equate the bully with the victim


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Yesterday, 4:32 pm

^ Well said. A lot of people conflate objectivity and neutrality.


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Yesterday, 5:15 pm

I thought this was more useful here than the PPR cartoons thread -

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