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11 Mar 2025, 6:18 pm

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12 Mar 2025, 9:23 am

Canada announces retaliatory tariffs on $21 billion of U.S. goods in response to Trump's steel and aluminum duties

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Canada on Wednesday announced new trade duties on some $21 billion worth of U.S. goods in response to President Donald Trump implementing universal steel and aluminum tariffs.

America's northern neighbor is the largest foreign supplier of steel and aluminum to the U.S., and experts have warned Trump's duties would be passed on to consumers.

In a news conference Wednesday announcing the retaliatory duties, a Canadian government spokesman called Trump's tariffs "completely unjustified, unfair and unreasonable."

The U.S. administration is once again inserting disruption and disorder into an incredibly successful trading partnership and raising the costs of everyday goods for Canadians and American households alike," said François-Philippe Champagne, Canada's minister of innovation, science and industry.

Canada's announcement comes despite a detente having been reached Tuesday with the Trump administration to resolve threats of a 25% surcharge on American consumers of Canadian electricity. Trump had threatened Canada with steel and aluminum tariffs climbing to 50% if the province of Ontario followed through on the surcharge.

Canada's retaliatory measures follow ones announced by the European Union targeting a range of U.S. goods worth $28 billion, including beef, motorcycles and whiskey alongside American-made steel and aluminum.

Shares in U.S. automakers fell. In a note to clients Wednesday, analysts with Barclays financial services group noted that when Trump implemented similar duties, Ford and GM reported weaker profitability


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14 Mar 2025, 6:15 pm

Trump's quest to conquer Canada is confusing everyone

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Eight years ago, President Donald Trump spoke about the U.S.-Canada relationship in glowing terms.

He hosted Prime Minister Justin Trudeau at the White House in February 2017 for one of his first joint appearances alongside a foreign leader. Trump opened by noting the nations "share much more than a border," highlighting "the special bonds that come when two nations have shed their blood together — which we have."

"America is deeply fortunate to have a neighbor like Canada," Trump said. "We have before us the opportunity to build even more bridges, and bridges of cooperation and bridges of commerce."

Fast-forward to Thursday, weeks after Trump initiated a full-scale trade war with Canada, and it’s clear the president doesn’t believe the U.S. should share a border — or much else — with its Canadian neighbors.

Speaking with reporters in the Oval Office, Trump first mentioned his love for Canadians, including his “many friends” like hockey legend Wayne Gretzky. Then he riffed about how Canada shouldn’t exist as a sovereign country before getting to what has increasingly become a fixation: wholesale annexation of Canada as a U.S. state.

"Canada only works as a state," Trump said Thursday. "We don’t need anything they have. As a state, it would be one of the great states anywhere. This would be the most incredible country, visually. If you look at a map, they drew an artificial line right through it, between Canada and the U.S. Just a straight, artificial line. Somebody did it a long time ago, many many decades ago. Makes no sense. It’s so perfect as a great and cherished state."

"But why should we subsidize another country for $200 billion?" Trump continued, adding, "And again, we don’t need their lumber, we don’t need their energy. We have more than they do. We don’t need anything. We don’t need their cars. I’d much rather make the cars here. And there’s not a thing that we need. Now, there will be a little disruption, but it won’t be very long. But they need us. We really don’t need them. And we have to do this. I’m sorry."

Trump has been unapologetic in his quest to conquer the Canadians — an effort he said in January would be conducted by “economic force.” The result has been a disintegration of the relationship between the U.S. and one of its closest allies, and a stock market plunge over fears of ever-increasing escalation of a trade war. Both Canadian officials and Republicans initially thought the president was merely joking, ribbing Trudeau — a longtime foil — after they met at Mar-a-Lago in November. It was after that visit that Trump first publicly floated the notion of absorbing Canada. Few think he’s joking now, and the Canadians have stopped laughing.

A source with direct knowledge of the discussions told NBC News that Trump is heavily focused on Canada in conversations with aides, who believe he is completely serious about making the country the 51st state — even with Trudeau out of power and a new prime minister in place.

'No clue where that is coming from'
There isn’t exactly a groundswell of support for the idea. At a heated town hall in his district on Thursday, Rep. Chuck Edwards, R-N.C., was pointedly asked whether he supported Trump’s push to annex Canada and Greenland.

"No," Edwards said. "I do not."

While Canadians said Trump did privately joke to Trudeau about Canada becoming a state during the president’s first term, several officials who worked in Trump’s White House said the broad assault on Canadian sovereignty was not born out of any conversations at the time. In fact, these former officials said they have no recollection of Trump ever raising the issue.

"Never, ever heard him mention it," one former White House official said. "Ever. No clue where that is coming from."

Congressional Republicans similarly did not recall such an idea being discussed in his first term.

"That’s probably three nos," Rep. Mark Amodei, R-Nev., said when asked if he recalled Trump expressing interest in acquiring Canada, redrawing borders or renegotiating treaties with the Canadians. "No. At least in my recollection, this is all kind of new territory."

A 68-page national security report Trump signed in December 2017 included only one mention of America’s northern neighbor: "Canada and the United States share a unique strategic and defense partnership."

In private, Trump has made specific demands the Canadians say they could never agree to. The president made clear in a phone call with Trudeau last month that he wants to revise the boundary between the two nations set by a 1908 border treaty, as two Canadian officials said and was previously reported by The New York Times and Toronto Star.

If Trump truly objects to the boundary line, the proper forum to resolve the dispute is the International Court of Justice, a Canadian official said.

The president has also mentioned renegotiating agreements that dictate how the Great Lakes and Columbia River are governed, the official told NBC News, adding that Trump wants to control the Northwest Passage, a maritime path that begins west of Greenland and cuts through Northern Canada to the Arctic Ocean.

"He wants our water," the Canadian official added. "He wants to take the water."

Marc Miller, the Canadian minister of immigration, refugees and citizenship, said that for Trump, Canada’s allure is its natural resources. The president separately wants American access to Ukraine’s rare earth minerals as compensation for the aid given to the war-torn country.

"I do think that Mr. Trump looks at our natural resources and has that acquisitive mind behind it," Miller said, calling Trump’s claims of the U.S. subsidizing Canada for $200 billion misleading.

Miller said Canadians started truly taking Trump’s threats of annexation seriously after his inauguration. He voiced disappointment that more allies have not spoken up in Canada’s defense.

"I can’t say this was totally predicted. Nor can anyone," Miller said. "Frustratingly among our allies, everyone is ducking for cover."

The White House did not respond to a request for comment.

A battle to be treated 'fairly'
"Well, I think Canada is a neighbor," White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said in a Tuesday briefing. "They are a partner. They have always been an ally. Perhaps they are becoming a competitor now."

Trump hasn’t provided Canada with an obvious off-ramp for the tensions, either. He has objected to what he describes as steep Canadian tariffs on dairy imports from the U.S. and highlighted the importance of U.S. metals production. But he has also said a lead reason for the trade war is Canada's lack of urgency in dealing with the fentanyl crisis — even though just 43 pounds of fentanyl were seized by U.S. border agents entering the country from Canada during the last fiscal year, compared to 21,100 pounds coming from Mexico. And he has wrongly claimed American banks are not allowed to do business north of the border; the Canadian Banking Association said last month that 16 U.S. banks currently operate in Canada.

"Clearly, the president is looking for some results," said Amodei, who launched the bipartisan American Canadian Economy and Security Caucus in 2023 and reintroduced a House resolution affirming the U.S.-Canada partnership last month. "I'm not sure those results are clearly defined."

Amodei said Trump is above all looking for the U.S. to be "treated fairly" on trade, as Trump has pointed to examples where he believes Canada is not doing so.

"When you say, well, you want to be treated fairly, the question is, OK, define fairly." Amodei said. "And I don’t think 'fairly' is defined at the moment."

Canadians view Trump’s push to expand the U.S. into Canadian territory as beyond unfair. Mark Carney, the former Canadian and British central banker who was sworn in as prime minister on Friday, described “dark days” ahead for his nation after being elected to lead the Liberal Party.

"These are dark days — dark days brought on by a country we can no longer trust," he said. "We are getting over the shock — but let us never forget the lessons. We have to look after ourselves and we have to look out for each other."

He has since said he is ready to negotiate a renewed trade deal — Trump already renegotiated the North American Free Trade Agreement into the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement during his first term — so long as his nation’s sovereignty is respected.

"If he wanted Canada — if he really wanted it — he’s harmed the prospects of Canada being the 51st state by the way he’s approached it," said John Bolton, a national security adviser during Trump’s first term who has since broken with him.

'Canada is a sovereign state'
Trump's rhetoric is not necessarily being matched by other members of his administration. During a confirmation hearing on Thursday, Trump’s pick to serve as ambassador to Canada, former Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., said "Canada is a sovereign state," suggesting that the president’s push for annexation was due to his relationship with Trudeau.

Asked by Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H., how he can heal a "negative relationship that has developed because of the president’s statements," while "addressing tariff issues," Hoekstra responded: "Obviously, I've been spending a lot of time thinking about that myself."

Nearly 800 miles north of Washington, D.C., at a meeting of G7 foreign ministers in Quebec, reporters pressed Secretary of State Marco Rubio about Trump’s push to make Canada the 51st state. Rubio said there would be no such conversation at the G7 gathering.

"It is not a meeting about how we’re going to take over Canada," Rubio said.

Questioned further by NBC News at the conclusion of the gathering of foreign ministers on Friday, Rubio further explained the president's position.

"I’ll tell you how that came about," Rubio said of promoting the annexation of Canada. "OK, he’s in a meeting with Trudeau, and Trudeau basically says that if the U.S. imposes tariffs on Canada, Canada couldn’t survive as a nation state, at which point the president said, 'well, then you should become a state.'"

Trump, Rubio said, "made an argument for why Canada would be better off joining the United States from an economic perspective and the like."

"He’s made that argument repeatedly," Rubio continued. "And I think it stands for itself."

A senior State Department official described "a need to separate out trade policy" from "broader cooperation on foreign affairs, and that’s challenging."

What also confounds Republicans about Trump’s idea is that annexing Canada would potentially add millions more Democrats to American voter rolls. Canada is a liberal-leaning nation with a population larger than California. Were Canada to become a state, it could mean 50 more House seats and two additional senators — auguring a real power shift in government.

"They’d have a sizable delegation in the House," Amodei said. “"I don’t think anybody thinks that’s a great idea. Oh, by the way, how many Electoral College votes are they going to get?"

Trump’s history of managing the U.S.-Canada relationship is intertwined with his own personal relationship with Trudeau who, up until this week, has been his only Canadian counterpart. At times, their relationship has been fruitful, like when they reworked the trade agreement governing commerce between their nations. But there has been animosity, too.

Now, annexation threats have ignited a "wave of patriotism in Canada" unlike any Miller has seen.

"Not hiding the fact that it can do a lot more damage to Canada than the U.S.," Miller said, noting the U.S. is Canada’s top trading partner. "But we have a high pain threshold and we’re ready to fight."

There’s a reason Canada believes it can win the fight, too. Its citizenry is united against relinquishing its national sovereignty, while the U.S. is divided over Trump's trade war — especially as the stock market slides.

"Trump’s position is vulnerable because he doesn’t have the support of the American business community," the Canadian official said. "And we know that."



'Enough is enough': Greenland flatly rejects Trump's calls for annexation
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Greenland’s leaders issued a sharp rebuke of Donald Trump’s renewed calls to annex it Thursday, after the president once again expressed his desire to take over the Arctic island.

“I think it will happen,” Trump said during a news briefing at the Oval Office, after being asked directly about his vision to acquire the semiautonomous nation. He added: “We really need it for national security.”

Outgoing Greenland Prime Minister Múte Egede responded in a Facebook post: “Enough is enough.”

Egede added that he planned to summon the leaders from all parties in Greenland to issue a joint rejection of Trump’s overtures.

Trump told NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte that the U.S. needs the island “for international security.” He added: “We have a lot of our favorite players cruising around the coast, and we have to be careful.”

Rutte, sitting next to Trump, did not directly comment on the president’s statement because he said he did not “want to drag NATO” into the issue, according to Reuters.

But, Rutte added, “We know things are changing there, and we have to be there.”


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More Canadians avoid setting foot in the U.S., 'without even a connection or layover'

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​​Michael Mortensen was looking forward to spending two weeks in Hawaii with his family last month, but his patriotism wouldn’t let him.

The Vancouver-based development consultant and urban planner said he’s refusing to spend money south of the border while President Donald Trump “levies idiotic tariffs and rains chaos” on Americans and Canadians alike.

Mortensen, 58, had budgeted about $10,000 for accommodations, food and entertainment, but he’s now exploring alternative destinations that bypass the U.S. “without even a connection or layover.” He added that he wrote letters to Hawaii’s governor and the state’s tourism board explaining his decision.

Two-thirds of Canadians said they’d significantly reduced their purchases of American products in stores (68%) and online (65%), and 59% said they’re less likely to visit the U.S. this year than in 2024, according to a survey this week by the Canadian market researcher Leger. Some 36% of Canadians with U.S. travel plans said they’d already canceled them.

A separate poll this month by Montreal-based Approach Tours found even higher resistance among older Canadians, with three-quarters of respondents ages 55 and up saying they’re avoiding trips to the U.S. more than before.

Canadians made an estimated 20.4 million visits to the U.S. last year, a number expected to rise by more than a million in 2025, according to the U.S. Travel Association. But the industry group warned last month that even a 10% drop in those visits would cost $2.1 billion in lost spending and 14,000 jobs. Already, Canada’s statistical agency reported a 23% drop in Canadian car trips to the U.S. last month compared with February 2024 and a 2.4% dip in residents’ round-trip air travel.

Lisa Shea, a college English professor in Gatineau, Quebec, has plans to visit multiple cities in California with three of her best friends in June. But “given the current political climate,” she said they’re considering canceling and taking a loss on their nonrefundable flights.

“I prefer to direct my investments toward markets where stability and mutual respect are a priority,” said Shea, 56.

Some Canadians plan to stay out of the United States until Trump’s out of office.

Cam Hayden, 69, owner of the Edmonton Blues Festival and a regular at American blues events throughout the U.S., said he’s boycotting the country until “some sense of normalcy returns,” calling it “a matter of conscience.”

Sam Chungyampin, 39, feels similarly. He was excited about Coachella’s lineup this year but is skipping the California music festival he’s attended three times previously.

“There is a souring national mood toward the U.S.,” said Christian Wolters, the Canada president and general manager of North America marketing at tour organizer Intrepid Travel. He said many Canadian customers are pivoting away from the U.S. to travel domestically or take short-haul flights to destinations such as Mexico and Costa Rica.

As tariff threats hovered last month, Air Canada told investors it was pre-emptively reducing March capacity to Las Vegas and other leisure destinations in Florida and Arizona that are typically popular with Canadian travelers. A spokesperson for the airline said this week that the situation remains “very fluid” and declined to comment further.

The CEO of Calgary-based WestJet told Canada’s CTV News in mid-February that it was already seeing a “very significant” 25% drop in Canadians’ U.S. travel demand since Trump’s tariff announcements. That shift in bookings has continued, a WestJet spokesperson said this week, with Mexican and Caribbean destinations benefiting from falling interest in American ones.

At just a three-hour flight from Toronto, Bermuda is poised to benefit from the shift. Hamilton Princess & Beach Club said it’s received at least 10 inquiries from Canadians over the past week looking to relocate or plan new business events, weddings and leisure trips there this summer.

The property now forecasts a 20% jump in revenue from the Canadian market due to the recent spike in interest.

In Thousand Islands on the St. Lawrence River, a popular vacation region straddling northern New York and southern Ontario, passenger traffic at the border was down 3% in January from the same month last year and 12% lower in the first two weeks of February from a year earlier, the 1000 Islands International Tourism Council said.

Marketing campaigns for the area are usually binational, showing off Canadian attractions alongside American ones, said Corey Fram, the council’s director, “because we know that makes us unique. But it’s a challenge to do that now because we’re getting pushback on ads.”

It’s a similar predicament at the opposite end of Lake Ontario, where a Niagara-area tourism group said it’s “actively revising our Buffalo Loves Canada campaign.” Cross-border traffic on the region’s four international bridges fell more than 14% last month from the year before, it said, and Canadian traffic to its website crashed by 45%.

The 1000 Islands council is now adjusting its marketing to show American audiences attractions on the U.S. side of the border and doing the reverse in Canada. At the same time, it’s deploying a hopeful, split-the-difference tagline: “1000 Islands. Where we’ve always met in the middle.”

Toronto-based travel blogger Liisa Ladouceur, 51, is splitting the difference as well. She’s canceled her March trip to Las Vegas but will travel to Detroit in April with her best friend, for a concert they bought tickets to months ago.

But instead of spending a long weekend and around $1,000 in the Motor City on hotels, shopping, meals and museums, they’ll enter the U.S. for the show and then cross the Detroit River, staying overnight in Windsor, Ontario, before heading home.

Several people interviewed said they would travel to the U.S. in four years once Trump is out of office in four years. IMHO this is wishful thinking for a number of reasons.

It is based on the assumption that Trump will leave office when he is constitutionally supposed to. I am not confident about this.

Assuming Trump does leave office as he is obligated to his successor may very well be another MAGA.

Assuming non MAGA does win the 2028 election and takes office how confident can one be that a neo MAGA won’t win the 2032 election? Trump did lose the 2020 election and after insurrection was widely thought of as toast. How is that working out?

When people stop doing something with the thought of it being a temporary thing sometimes they do not come back to it or if they do come back to it do not do it as often.

I do not foresee things between the U.S. and the now former allies we have threatened and insulted returning to the way it was for a generation if it returns at all . Things may eventually on the outside appear to resemble the way it was but that will be about dependency and may actually be on some level about trust but deep down there will be doubt.


Canada's Carney heads to Europe in search of 'more loyal partners' as Trump targets his country
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New Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney met with French President Emmanuel Macron on Monday during his first official overseas trip, seeking support from one of Ottawa’s oldest allies as U.S. President Donald Trump attacks Canada’s sovereignty and economy.

Macron and Carney did not take journalists’ questions ahead of the talks, a sign the French president might not want to upset Trump.

Macron did not address Trump’s attacks on Canada but noted that tariffs only bring inflation.

“In the current international context, we want to be able to develop our most strategic projects with our closest, more loyal partners,” Macron said, adding that “we are stronger together, better able to ensure the respect of our interests, the full exercise of our sovereignty.”

Carney was sworn in on Friday. He will next visit Britain, where he will meet with Prime Minister Keir Starmer and King Charles III, the head of state in Canada. Starmer is also not expected to hold a joint news conference.

Carney will also travel to the edge of Canada’s Arctic to reaffirm the country’s security and sovereignty.

Carney has chosen the two European capital cities that shaped Canada’s early existence. During his swearing-in, he noted the country was built on the bedrock of three peoples, French, English and Indigenous. He said Canada is fundamentally different from America and will “never, ever, in any way shape or form, be part of the United States.”

“I want to ensure that France, and the whole of Europe, works enthusiastically with Canada, the most European of non-European countries, and at the same time resolutely North American, determined, like you, to maintain the most positive relations possible with the United States,” Carney said Monday.


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Tariffs are absolutely brilliant... what we have been seeing until now in the USA is the final result of 60 years of unbridled "Free Trade," where every productive job can leave the country completely unhindered like Osmosis. This is of course why the big system is so against all this and is now slandering tariffs with every weapon they have in their arsenal.

Tariffs, Isolationism, Protectionism.... this is also why the USA was so desperate to dump Charles Lindeberg and let the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor and conveniently send away the 4 Aircraft Carriers, so they could conveniently get the USA into WWII and get rid of "America First" and the Rooseveltian New-Deal era and go back to Corporatism.



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As long as you're happy with your tariff tax money going to billionaires as tax cuts while the price of EVERYTHING doubles.

The inevitability of greed and gullibility.



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Destroying America's friendly relationships and the soft power that comes with it is good actually.

Said no one with an understanding how the world works, ever.


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In their stupid anti-Tariff propaganda the idea that Tariffs will raise prices on consumer goods only tells a small part of the story. Also, they gloat about it like it's the best thing ever when Canada slams Tariffs back on the USA in response... so why is it such a great thing for liberals and hurting the USA when Canada does it in response, if they say "Tariffs don't work", and "the country being Tariffed doesn't pay for the tariffs" ? How does it cut both ways ? Their propaganda is so utterly stupid.

It seems relatively less important though that because of Tariffs people will pay slightly more for plastic crap and stupid Televisions that you don't even need and only pump brain-rot propaganda into your head anyway.... The idea of bringing back Industry and productive jobs is far more beneficial.


It's their "allowed parameters of resistance" as well that one is allowed to call for the Rich to pay for slightly higher taxes, as long as one doesn't get too crazy with it... but if one starts talking about this sort of thing with Tariffs and protectionism, then this is the real third rail. They already control the whole system and plunder it at-will for disaster capitalism to get their money back, so they don't mind paying slightly higher taxes as part of the approved range of issues and controlled opposition. The only real economic difference between the two parties (of the uniparty) until the advent of Trump was that the Republicans were allowed to call for a slightly lower corporate tax rate and lower taxes.



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In their stupid anti-Tariff propaganda the idea that Tariffs will raise prices on consumer goods only tells a small part of the story. Also, they gloat about it like it's the best thing ever when Canada slams Tariffs back on the USA in response... so why is it such a great thing for liberals and hurting the USA when Canada does it in response, if they say "Tariffs don't work", and "the country being Tariffed doesn't pay for the tariffs" ? How does it cut both ways ? Their propaganda is so utterly stupid.


No one thinks Canada imposing tariffs is a net positive, but it's still emotionally satisfying to see someone stand up against a bully. In an ideal situation Canada wouldn't be obliged to fight back, but ideal situations only exist in our imagination.


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Htaxu3 wrote:
In their stupid anti-Tariff propaganda the idea that Tariffs will raise prices on consumer goods only tells a small part of the story. Also, they gloat about it like it's the best thing ever when Canada slams Tariffs back on the USA in response... so why is it such a great thing for liberals and hurting the USA when Canada does it in response, if they say "Tariffs don't work", and "the country being Tariffed doesn't pay for the tariffs" ? How does it cut both ways ? Their propaganda is so utterly stupid.


No one thinks Canada imposing tariffs is a net positive, but it's still emotionally satisfying to see someone stand up against a bully. In an ideal situation Canada wouldn't be obliged to fight back, but ideal situations only exist in our imagination.




and I think you miss or are going-around a part of my point.... if Canada imposing Tariffs in retaliation on the USA is "standing up to Trump" and "fighting back" or is at-least damaging Trump and the American economy, doesn't this mean that Tariffs work and do damage on the outside target country ? Why does the entire world's media gloat about it like they do when Canada imposes retaliatory tariffs in this way back on Trump ? Their stupid contradictory crap and what they say about tariffs clashes and cuts both ways, contrary to what they try and tell regular working-class Americans that "Tariffs don't work".

The other country like Mexico or China pays for the Tariff because then they can't have the huge sweatshop in there from Ford or Nike or whatever that's operating and their government's thus not collecting the revenue.... but in a country like the USA where a sweatshop like this can not operate, a Tariff imposed like this does not matter, or matters less in the context.



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funeralxempire wrote:
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In their stupid anti-Tariff propaganda the idea that Tariffs will raise prices on consumer goods only tells a small part of the story. Also, they gloat about it like it's the best thing ever when Canada slams Tariffs back on the USA in response... so why is it such a great thing for liberals and hurting the USA when Canada does it in response, if they say "Tariffs don't work", and "the country being Tariffed doesn't pay for the tariffs" ? How does it cut both ways ? Their propaganda is so utterly stupid.


No one thinks Canada imposing tariffs is a net positive, but it's still emotionally satisfying to see someone stand up against a bully. In an ideal situation Canada wouldn't be obliged to fight back, but ideal situations only exist in our imagination.




and I think you miss or are going-around a part of my point.... if Canada imposing Tariffs in retaliation on the USA is "standing up to Trump" and "fighting back" or is at-least damaging Trump and the American economy, doesn't this mean that Tariffs work and do damage on the outside target country ? Why does the entire world's media gloat about it like they do when Canada imposes retaliatory tariffs in this way back on Trump ? Their stupid contradictory crap and what they say about tariffs clashes and cuts both ways, contrary to what they try and tell regular working-class Americans that "Tariffs don't work".

The other country like Mexico or China pays for the Tariff because then they can't have the huge sweatshop in there from Ford or Nike or whatever that's operating and their government's thus not collecting the revenue.... but in a country like the USA where a sweatshop like this can not operate, a Tariff imposed like this does not matter, or matters less in the context.


So, who's claiming that Canada's retaliatory tariffs won't also negatively impact Canada?

It seems like you're arguing with a strawman and hoping someone will take the bait.


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Today, 7:57 pm

I see a lot of these like the liberal Meidas Touchy network I check in on from time to time gloating about this pretty heartily in these regards, so they seem to have a pretty high opinion of these Retaliatory Tariffs.



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Today, 8:03 pm

Htaxu3 wrote:
I see a lot of these like the liberal Meidas Touchy network I check in on from time to time gloating about this pretty heartily in these regards, so they seem to have a pretty high opinion of these Retaliatory Tariffs.


I can't comment on things I haven't seen, but the only gloating I've seen has been of the sort I described earlier, emotional satisfaction, not because they believe Canada will benefit in the short-term from a trade war with the US.

That said, diversifying away from the US will be a long-term benefit even if it hurts in the short-term. Yanks can get their potash from Belarus or Russia for all Canadians care, there's lots of other markets for Canadian potash.


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Today, 9:31 pm

Most of these liberal media channels that are heavy cutouts of the CIA and Democrat-apparatus like Medias Touch, David Pakman, Kyle Kucklinsky, etc; are and have been gloating about this quite hard that Canada has been putting on retaliatory Tariffs, and they all think in general that there's tremendous benefit for their side going back this way in reverse and the damage this is doing to Trump, and all of this.... I would say it's all mostly for them first-and-foremost about somehow removing Trump on the world stage and using any leverage and tactics possible to do this, rather than any immediate economic effect it has on Canada and Canadian citizens and stuff like this.

I doubt they really care that much about ordinary Canadians getting hurt, if this they think this is going to happen; and this is probably quite low in the pecking order of cares.... Ultimately, a few years ago Trudeau even finally trampled his own people over with horses when they refused to vacate Ottawa.