Trump thinks Biden’s pardons are void

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17 Mar 2025, 11:07 am

Trump claims Biden's pardons for Jan. 6 committee are 'void' because he used an autopen

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President Donald Trump claimed without evidence early Monday that his predecessor’s pardons for members of the House select committee that investigated the Jan. 6, 2021, attacks on the Capitol are invalid because then-President Joe Biden didn’t use a real pen.

“The ‘Pardons’ that Sleepy Joe Biden gave to the Unselect Committee of Political Thugs, and many others, are hereby declared VOID, VACANT, AND OF NO FURTHER FORCE OR EFFECT, because of the fact that they were done by Autopen,” Trump wrote on his Truth Social online platform.

Trump went on to allege that Biden didn’t know about the pardons or approve them, and that therefore all the committee members would be “subject to investigation at the highest level.”

However, the U.S. Constitution makes clear the president has unique executive powers to issue pardons and makes no provision for subsequent presidents to rescind them — for issues relating to the choice of pen or anything else.

Biden and President Barack Obama both used an autopen device to sign official documents, a practice which is legally binding, according to 2005 guidance from the Office of Legal Counsel at the Department of Justice, commissioned by President George W. Bush.

"The President need not personally perform the physical act of affixing his signature to a bill he approves and decides to sign in order for the bill to become law," the office said, adding that this includes the use of an autopen.

Trump’s overnight comments appear to have been inspired by the Oversight Project, an offshoot of the Heritage Foundation, a right-wing think tank. The group questioned on X last week whether Biden had the “mental capacity” to order an autopen to be used to add his signature.

It's unclear if the president was planning imminent action or an investigation against the committee members.

Trump has argued that the committee members are guilty of unspecified "major crimes," writing the phrase in all capital letters in a text message to NBC News after Biden issued the pardons in January.

The panel’s members were Sen. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., who was then a House member; former Reps. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., Elaine Luria, D-Va., and Stephanie Murphy, D-Fla.; and current Reps. Pete Aguilar, D-Calif., Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., Jamie Raskin, D-Md., and Bennie Thompson, D-Miss.

Former Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mark Milley and Dr. Anthony Fauci also received pre-emptive pardons from Biden.

Kinzinger responded to the move in a post to X, sharing a gif of the character Ron Burgundy with the words “bring it on b----.”

"He's more obsessed with like, me and Liz Cheney than his freaking golf score. Hey Trump, bring it on, dude," Kinzinger said in a video posted separately to X. "You weak, whiny, tiny man."

Schiff also addressed Trump's comments, saying in a post to X that "the members of the Jan 6 Committee are all proud of our work."

"Your threats will not intimidate us," he added. "Or silence us”.


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17 Mar 2025, 11:56 am

Heh... a better argument would be that Biden was legally dead when he "signed" these....

which btw, it's funny that absolutely nothing has been heard from a supposedly "ex-President" since his 2 months of leaving office, as in certainly no one is calling someone as meaningless as him for his counsel at this kind of turbulent time (for them).

I still say though, Trump should definitely lock up all of Lizard Cheney, Adam Schfity Schiff, Adam the-cry-guy Kinzinger, Jamie Ratskin, etc... if he can, to send a message. My guess is though if Trump is smart, he waits on something like this for the next likely Democratic nominee to show themselves as a charismatic and vibrant person who looks like something of a threat... and then BAM; they get hit with a bunch of SLAPP cases like we know Jon Stewart did when he overvalued his NYC apartment by %829 or something like this after he hypocritically preached about "how bad" Trump was on this in the Luticia James real-estate case. And the Democrats can't say F-ing anything, because this is the exact same tactic they used on Trump and said was completely fair and "saving Democracy" and upholding ethics to the highest principle and all this.



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17 Mar 2025, 3:58 pm

The difference being that sphincter mouth is an actual criminal and the "weaponised" justice system was doing its job, as opposed to said criminal using it to persecute political rivals not charged with any crimes.



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17 Mar 2025, 6:27 pm

Even if Trump is or was an "actual Criminal", they instead charged him with the rubbish low-level made-up political prosecutions, and not the "actual crimes" that they allege Trump has seriously committed that however exist only in their own heads like some kind of made-up Manchurian-treason with Russia.

By contrast, what they charged Trump with of "Election interference," and saying that Trump paying Storm Daniels so she would not talk because this was influencing peoples' opinions on the election was enough to merit Trump being in prison; a ton of leading Democrats like Hillary Clinton have done loads of interfering activities that have risen to this level and then some, so they should all be locked up for the rest of their happy lives.

They made the serious error of lowering the bar for these "felonies" down to these very low levels, in my opinion, and setting the precedents for these, if Trump would be so good to use these for the future.



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18 Mar 2025, 9:32 am

I think Trump would make a disgusting but great villain in a Batman movie.


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