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16 Dec 2004, 11:27 am

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I know some Quenya...


My 10yo Aspie son is obsessed with LOTR and wants to learn Quenya. 8O I told him we'll be sticking with the Spanish he's already learning.



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16 Dec 2004, 12:36 pm

I talk to animals too, in a language of sqeuks, growls, and hissing.


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16 Dec 2004, 2:41 pm

Oppish!! !!

Me and my friends used that before.

Wop-e u-sop-e-dop top-o sop-pop-e-a-kop oppish alot.

We would crack up when we figured out words like "popular"

(pop-o-pop-u-lop-a-rop) And people would just look at us like we were from another universe.



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16 Dec 2004, 4:32 pm

Cindy wrote:
Catffienated wrote:
I know some Quenya...


My 10yo Aspie son is obsessed with LOTR and wants to learn Quenya. 8O I told him we'll be sticking with the Spanish he's already learning.


The frustrating thing about Quenya is that it isn't complete, and not all of Tolkien's writings about it have been made available. Probably why I lost patience with it; let there be a complete grammar first! It's still worth the effort to study some of the poetry, though; it's a great way to get inside the language. Ardalambion has analyses of Namarie and other texts. And a course... :P

Here's a translation (metrical and rhyming!) of Sam's "In Western Lands". Don't know how precise it is. Especially if you know Donald Swann's music to this, it's awesome to memorize...

Oh yeah, it's too late to warn you now, but this is an old preoccupation of mine :P :wink:



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16 Dec 2004, 5:54 pm

macvincent wrote:
Mine is not really a secret language:



Won thgir derob ytterp ma I

Thats another of mine!



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16 Dec 2004, 5:56 pm

Mich wrote:
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Ihay! owhay areway ouyay? I'mway inefay, utbay imay eadhay urtshay...


"Hi! How are you? I'm fine, but my head hurts..."

I'mway anningplay onway ogginglay offway oon-say.

Quote:
ton suaceb fo eht egaugnal ro gnihthyna!


"Anything or language the of because not!"

esnes hcum gnikam ton si taht wow!

Quote:
sop-o dop-o yop-ou kop-nop-o-wop a-nop-yop sop-e-cop-rop-e-top
lop-a-nop-gop-u-gop-e-sop?


"So do you know any secret language?"

yop-e-sop i dop-o! top-hop-e-sop-e!

:!: Ich-may / Hcim / Mop-i-cop-hop :?:


actually it says not because of the language or anything. I can speak and write in that fluently...



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16 Dec 2004, 6:08 pm

echospectra, thanks for that... But it started to confuse me... I really don't understand it. can't you just create a language, using fake/ english letters, and just think up words for english words?



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16 Dec 2004, 6:44 pm

ShadesOfMe wrote:
echospectra, thanks for that... But it started to confuse me... I really don't understand it. can't you just create a language, using fake/ english letters, and just think up words for english words?


About the difference between codes and languages, you mean? Codes are based on "encrypting" existing words, by putting letters in between, or writing them backwards, or using a different writing system, or sending them in Morse, or whatever... When you make a code, you're not making up new words, you're transmitting existing ones in a different way. Making a language would mean making up new words and a grammar.



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16 Dec 2004, 11:24 pm

echospectra wrote:
Oh yeah, it's too late to warn you now, but this is an old preoccupation of mine :P :wink:


I am in awe... 8O Having majored in English Language and Literature, linguistics fascinates me. Maybe I will try to teach Quenya to my son... or to myself... :wink: