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pandabear
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01 Dec 2010, 4:08 pm

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What the hell are you talking about? Talk sense. :?


You need people (your "friends") to tell you how great and fantastic you are, and find it absurd that they do not fulfill your need for admiration. You thus react with bitterness and resentment. Is that not true?



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01 Dec 2010, 4:14 pm

Well yes of course. they fail to appreciate how superior I am to them and most other people.



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01 Dec 2010, 7:54 pm

Can you tell us in what specific ways you find yourself to be superior?



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01 Dec 2010, 8:27 pm

Iam superior to them because of my intelligence and my academic achievments amongst other attributes and I also very rich as well since I was born into a well off family. I mean seriously i hate having to go to my friends shabby houses as wel and have to put up with thier sh***y immature humour. One of my friends even has this atrocious apartment that is falling apart, its just so yuck :x

When I am in college and working teams i give everyone else the lions share of the work since I do not always have time to help and have more important issues to deal wiith in my own life.

I just love myself and who I am.



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01 Dec 2010, 9:42 pm

We should all love ourselves for who we are.

If we have friends, then we should also love them for what and who they are.

If you imagine yourself to be superior to your friends, then do them a favour and stay away from them. Otherwise, you'll just end up irritating them and ultimately yourself.

Unfortunately, there really is no cure for the narcissistic personality disorder. Even narcissistists who go in for psychotherapy use it as a means to develop higher levels of skills for manipulating other people.

Just leave the rest of the species alone, and enjoy basking in your own superiority. So, no-one else regards you as superior. So what? Just forget about the rest of the world.

You want everyone else in the world to worship you, and it just isn't going to happen. Live with it.



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01 Dec 2010, 9:51 pm

So Narcasitic personality disorder is uncurable? I thought people with the disorder could get over or grow out of it.



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02 Dec 2010, 10:08 am

That sounds like a pretty good disorder.

lol at this thread



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02 Dec 2010, 10:14 am

If you were really a narcissist you would be too conscious of how you appeared in this thread to make yourself look like a pompous and deluded fool. You'd know what was acceptable and admirable behaviour, and you'd fake it for approval. Therefore, I don't believe you are a narcissist.

Not sure what you are... a comedian perhaps, having some fun with us, or someone with a strange new disorder... but you're not a narcissist.



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02 Dec 2010, 10:20 am

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I started writing an article that touched on the relationship between narcissistic supervisors and AS subordinates.

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The Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) is characterized by a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, a need for admiration, and a lack of empathy.32 Individuals with a NPD exhibit most of the following traits: an exaggerated sense of self-importance; a preoccupation with unlimited power or success; a belief that he or she is "special" and should only associate with other high-status people; a demand for excessive admiration; a strong sense of entitlement (i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations); interpersonally exploitative; lacking in empathy; envious of others (or beliefs that others are envious of him or her); arrogant and haughty behaviors and attitudes.33 Individuals with a NPD are characteristically highly motivated to gain the esteem of others to receive affirmation of their superiority, and consequently often seek out positions of authority.34 Their use of superficial charm, coupled with their sense of entitlement, can help persons with a NPD to ascend into a leadership position. Once in a leadership position, the tactics that narcissists often deploy to gain admiration and affirmation from others can be very destructive to an organization. For example, because narcissists view other people as inferior and are insensitive to the concerns of others, they are frequently given to derogating people, and thus undermine interpersonal relationships.35 While narcissists generally regard themselves as superior leaders, they can be hyper-alert to perceived or imagined threats, which they frequently discover in their surroundings, and to which they often respond aggressively.36 Individuals with high levels of narcissism experience anger more frequently, and are more likely to express their anger by engaging in counterproductive work behavior, than other people.37 Lamentably, no effective method of coaching narcissists to become productive team players in the work place has been identified.38
Persons with Asperger's Syndrome may show a lack of social or emotional reciprocity; may have a marked impairment in the use of nonverbal behaviors to regulate social interaction; may fail to develop peer relationships appropriate to their developmental level; and may demonstrate a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interest or achievements with other people.39 An employee with Asperger's Syndrome may be innately unable to gratify and fulfill the needs for excessive admiration and affirmation of superiority that a supervisor who has a NPD may have. The employee with Asperger's Syndrome may find the supervisor's consequent aggressive response to be perplexing and terrifying. In her proposal to remove me from the federal service, my supervisor wrote: "The Critical Element 5 sub-element Understands Role in Organization has also been a serious problem. I have made considerable effort to ensure that you understand your role in the organization: we have reviewed in detail your Position Performance Plan; l have repeatedly counseled you about the duties and responsibilities of your position. We have met at least once a week and communicated via e-mail almost daily. Rather the problem has been your failure to assume that role and to fulfill the duties and responsibilities of your position."40 I certainly did listen to my supervisor talk quite a lot during my "Performance Improvement Period"--sometimes in her office for several hours after everyone else had gone home, whenever the spirit so moved her. My supervisor's "counseling" consisted of abundantly carping at me and criticizing me. Everything that I did or tried to do she deliberately construed in a negative light. During our "counseling sessions", my supervisor frequently made inappropriate but confidential remarks to me about other employees, particularly about people who were of the same formal bureaucratic rank (one of whom she considered "clueless"), whom she may have regarded as rivals. She did, however, speak admiringly about her immediate supervisor (except on occasions when the topic of conversation turned to her immediate supervisor's presumed sexual orientation) and quite glowingly about other higher-ranking staff members. My supervisor would occasionally speak in a positive way about lower-ranking employees, but usually when her purpose was to take the opportunity to point out some aspect, quality or accomplishment in which she found me inferior in comparison. Although I did my level best to humor her, I was never able to fathom what my supervisor thought my role in the organization should have been, other than that I should be removed from the federal service. My supervisor’s efforts were very costly to the DMDC in terms of the hours required to document her criticisms and accusations, discouraging innovation, and ultimately responding to her proposal to remove me from federal service for unacceptable performance. She was very disrespectful towards me personally, and I found her contemptuous attitude to be enormously draining.
Although I had never previously been subjected to such intense calumny and abuse, particularly by a supervisor, being severely bullied is an all-too-common experience for people with Asperger’s Syndrome and other autism-spectrum disorders.41 A number of authors have examined problems associated with toxic leadership and workplace bullying.42 People with Asperger’s Syndrome are known to be particularly vulnerable to anxiety disorders.43 Bullying-induced anxiety, especially for someone who has Asperger’s Syndrome to begin with, can make it particularly difficult for a person in a position that requires considerable cognitive skills, such as lead statistical work, to function at all.


So, persons with AS really do need to stay away from people with NPDs. And your inferior friends, who fail to show appreciation for your superiority, are indeed better off staying away from you.
WOW. That describes to a perfect T exactly what happened at my last job!



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02 Dec 2010, 11:36 am

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If you were really a narcissist you would be too conscious of how you appeared in this thread to make yourself look like a pompous and deluded fool. You'd know what was acceptable and admirable behaviour, and you'd fake it for approval. Therefore, I don't believe you are a narcissist.

Not sure what you are... a comedian perhaps, having some fun with us, or someone with a strange new disorder... but you're not a narcissist.


Well, narcissism probably exists on a scale. He may be only mildly narcissistic.



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02 Dec 2010, 9:24 pm

Jamesy, just because it is incurable doesn't mean that it's untreatable. You can mitigate it, but you have to do it yourself. And pandabear was just offering advice, do not swear at them just because you don't like the reply.

On a personal note, I've had bad experiences with people with NPD. I have at least one family member with NPD and a former family 'friend' who has it.


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03 Dec 2010, 11:27 am

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Iam superior to them because of my intelligence and my academic achievments amongst other attributes and I also very rich as well since I was born into a well off family. I mean seriously i hate having to go to my friends shabby houses as wel and have to put up with thier sh***y immature humour. One of my friends even has this atrocious apartment that is falling apart, its just so yuck :x

When I am in college and working teams i give everyone else the lions share of the work since I do not always have time to help and have more important issues to deal wiith in my own life.

I just love myself and who I am.


Being born very rich does not automatically make you better than anyone else, although it can certainly make life less difficult for you. Are your parents setting you up for life, so that you'll never have to work anyway?

I suspect that narcissism can be an inherited disorder. Being able to manipulate other people with false charm can go a long way towards success in one's career or business. Certainly more than technical abilities, which will get you a modest salary and nothing more.

Is your father the successful businessman, and your mother the sexy trophy wife?



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04 Dec 2010, 12:11 am

You are the worst narcissist I've ever met. The thread is titled 'Can I have your opinions?" and we are supposed to believe you are a narcissist? A narcissist wouldn't even make a thread on here, much less ask someone in person for their opinions, unless he/she was a close friend, and even then, compassion is not a sharp tool at their disposal.



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04 Dec 2010, 11:39 am

Yep my dad is an accountant and my mum is the manager of a hospital comapany.

I am set for life and its very gratifying :D



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04 Dec 2010, 11:39 am

Yep my dad is an accountant and my mum is the manager of a hospital comapany.

I am set for life and its very gratifying :D



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04 Dec 2010, 11:46 am

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Yep my dad is an accountant and my mum is the manager of a hospital comapany.

I am set for life and its very gratifying :D
:lol: Well then, you can afford to be a total dipstick, and treat everyone like excrement, you can always pay for people to "like" you, if that's what floats your boat.

But what if life throws you a couple of curves? Like maybe you'll get incurable cancer, or a serious mental illness, or be involved in a major accident that leaves you paralysed from the waist down? I wouldn't be too complacent about being "set up for life." Life's nasty... you'd better prepare for it. The very best case scenario is that one day you'll be old, and feeble, and your kids will be hovering around with your fourth wife waiting for you to die. Oh... and then you go either to oblivion or hell, depending on who is right. Not very gratifying, is it?