Lesley Gore R.I.P.

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18 Feb 2015, 3:50 pm

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...Reading that it was that long until she was OFFICALLY publically out made me think of ~ " what , did she inspire Jim Nabors " ? (who , like , 1&3/4 years ago or so announced officially HIS gayness after umpteen years of it being widely seen/thought)

Off Topic: when we were in 5th grade 1968 and "Gomer Pyle" was a hit TV show everybody just kind of knew Jim Nabors and Rock Hudson were "married" decades before it was public they were gay and "coming out" was not even a concept. How did we "know" that?

gosh

when I was in fifth grade nobody around me even had the mental concept of "gay" yet. I guess we were all provincial or otherwised sheltered compared to other places.

At that age, my classmates and I all knew - or thought we knew - what gay was. Rather, we fixated on the stereotype of effeminate, sexually aggressive men. We would accuse one another of being "gay," as a put down.

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18 Feb 2015, 3:55 pm

^^^
when I first heard references to homosexuality in junior high school, the terms "qu**r" and "f*gg*t" were used, never heard the term "gay" until high school.

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18 Feb 2015, 4:04 pm

auntblabby wrote:

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when I first heard references to homosexuality in junior high school, the terms "qu**r" and "f*gg*t" were used, never heard the term "gay" until high school.

We used all three.
Funny, for all our homophobia, we didn't actually know any actual open homosexuals. As it turns out, one of my very favorite teachers I later learned was a lesbian, while a couple friends (one of whom was later my best man) were gay. Needless to say, neither dared to announce that publicly back then.

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18 Feb 2015, 4:06 pm

first gay folk I ever knowingly met were in the army.

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18 Feb 2015, 4:10 pm

Back on topic
Brooklyn woman recalls origins of Lesley Gore’s ‘It’s My Party’ from teen outburst
from NY Daily News

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainmen ... -1.2119662

Lesley Gore’s anthem made her more than ‘Party’ girl
from Boston Globe
http://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/music/2 ... story.html

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18 Feb 2015, 6:10 pm

she had a good run :thumright:

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18 Feb 2015, 8:09 pm

WTF?????

She wasn't that old at all!

I like her songs. I'll have to find out what she passed away from.

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18 Feb 2015, 8:10 pm

lung cancer. she was a non-smoker so this particular form of death for her seems cruelly odd.

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18 Feb 2015, 8:38 pm

auntblabby wrote:

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when I first heard references to homosexuality in junior high school, the terms "qu**r" and "f*gg*t" were used, never heard the term "gay" until high school.

Those wre the words used and the context was very negative.

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18 Feb 2015, 8:40 pm

they were directed at me for the longest time.

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18 Feb 2015, 8:57 pm

I didn't hear the term "gay" until the mid 1970s.

I used to be called a "fa***t" and a "homo." I didn't understand "fa***t" even a little bit until I got to junior high. I "technically" knew what a "homo" was, but I didn't really understand the concept of man on man sex until I got to high school.

I used to hear the term "queer"--but didn't know what it was until I got to high school.

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18 Feb 2015, 9:00 pm

even back in the day I imagined the people calling me those things had a secret spot in their heads where they were flaming.

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