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02 May 2016, 9:37 am

Now that we've established women aren't attracted to a man because he's rich, what qualities in a man do they find attractive?


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02 May 2016, 2:31 pm

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Now that we've established women aren't attracted to a man because he's rich, what qualities in a man do they find attractive?


Is this sarcastic? Because I saw you post on the response thread

If it is not than I would have to say different women are attracted to different qualities. I like geeky, genuine, and honest men



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02 May 2016, 4:15 pm

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Now that we've established women aren't attracted to a man because he's rich, what qualities in a man do they find attractive?


I don't think there's a magic formula for what all women find attractive. I can't tell you what women want because I can only speak for myself. If you are looking for a committed relationship, that takes time to build a mutual affection between two people and, again, there is no magic formula to determine who is right for who. You just have to put yourself out there and risk rejection until you meet somebody that likes you back. And, really, we live in a planet of over 7 billion people. You are bound to find at least a few people. Remember Tim Minchin's 'If I Didn't Have You'.

If it's just sex you want, there's Craigslist. Go nuts.



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02 May 2016, 4:28 pm

Alliekit wrote:
Is this sarcastic? Because I saw you post on the response thread
No my question, 'what are women attracted' to was genuine. It was my post on the response thread was sarcastic, particularly the final paragraph.

Sarcastic in tone but not in content, all based on true stories. I should have known it would be a bad idea to reveal those events. For me life's most oft repeated lesson is this, lie. Never reveal your true colours, never say what you think, lie.

People don't want to hear the truth. They don't like the truth. The truth is ugly. The truth shines a light on their flaws as well as mine. People expect white lies. They fish for compliments about traits they know they don't have. People get surprised when I don't tell white lies. ExGF said I should tell white lies.

When ExGF said she wanted to lose weight the response she was expecting was "You're already thin dear". She was expecting a white lie. When she said she wanted to lose weight I took her statement literally and responded with "here's how you do it". Three years ago I lost 110 lbs so I just wanted to share my knowledge in this sphere.

So the truth is I tried to put ExGF on a diet and she didn't enjoy it. I tried even more extreme dieting measures with GF before her. I could have lied and made myself look noble. That would have made people like me better because people prefer to be lied to. Most people hate honesty. White lies flatter but the truth reveals.


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02 May 2016, 4:34 pm

No people are insecure and need reassurance from people they love. That's not lying it's supporting someone you care about.

Am I fat? Isn't the same as "please help me lose weight"? It's taken me a long time to realise that.



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02 May 2016, 4:38 pm

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02 May 2016, 4:41 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Now that we've established women aren't attracted to a man because he's rich, what qualities in a man do they find attractive?


Sense of humor
Intelligence
Having a good "heart"
Talent
Similar interests
Ambition
Physical attractiveness



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02 May 2016, 4:47 pm

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If it's just sex you want, there's Craigslist. Go nuts.
No that's not what I want. I want a lifelong relationship. My longest lasted 3 months. It failed because I said whatever I felt like, showing a distinct lack of understanding of women and people in general.


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02 May 2016, 4:50 pm

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Am I fat? Isn't the same as "please help me lose weight"? It's taken me a long time to realise that.
You are right, I was wrong. My mistake was taking her literally. An especially egregious mistake since she's an NT girl.


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02 May 2016, 5:06 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Alliekit wrote:
Is this sarcastic? Because I saw you post on the response thread
No my question, 'what are women attracted' to was genuine. It was my post on the response thread was sarcastic, particularly the final paragraph.

Sarcastic in tone but not in content, all based on true stories. I should have known it would be a bad idea to reveal those events. For me life's most oft repeated lesson is this, lie. Never reveal your true colours, never say what you think, lie.

People don't want to hear the truth. They don't like the truth. The truth is ugly. The truth shines a light on their flaws as well as mine. People expect white lies. They fish for compliments about traits they know they don't have. People get surprised when I don't tell white lies. ExGF said I should tell white lies.

When ExGF said she wanted to lose weight the response she was expecting was "You're already thin dear". She was expecting a white lie. When she said she wanted to lose weight I took her statement literally and responded with "here's how you do it". Three years ago I lost 110 lbs so I just wanted to share my knowledge in this sphere.

So the truth is I tried to put ExGF on a diet and she didn't enjoy it. I tried even more extreme dieting measures with GF before her. I could have lied and made myself look noble. That would have made people like me better because people prefer to be lied to. Most people hate honesty. White lies flatter but the truth reveals.


Wowo that loss is amazing!! ! I certainly would mind you planning a diet for me hahahahaha.

I don't think that's it's that they want to you lie it just that maybe they are sensation about it and want comfort from you.

I've found relationships are hard work where you have to support and comfort each other. It is difficult going out with an NT. I've had to teach him my mannerisms and about stimming.



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02 May 2016, 5:29 pm

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Wowo that loss is amazing!! ! I certainly would mind you planning a diet for me hahahahaha.
That's what I thought lol. What's the good of knowing how to do something if you can't teach it to other people, right?

After my massive weight loss I got very frustrated when I saw people trying to lose weight using incorrect techniques when I from experience how it was done. But it's hard to tell people because it's such a sensitive topic.
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I don't think that's it's that they want to you lie it just that maybe they are sensation about it and want comfort from you.
That's understandable. I think we all want comfort.
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I've found relationships are hard work
Yes they are and I accept that. I know I can't get anything without putting the work in. That applies to all areas in life.
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It is difficult going out with an NT. I've had to teach him my mannerisms and about stimming.
I tried to do the same thing. She knew I was aspie. I wasn't even her first aspie boyfriend. But rather than accepting our differences she tried to "fix" me. She thought she could change me into an NT :x


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02 May 2016, 5:58 pm

^^ she should have known better than to try and 'fix' you. It's not worth being with people like that because they will never be happy with who you are, they will always want to improve you



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02 May 2016, 6:16 pm

It seems to me that most men who take the easy way out and categorize ALL women as this, that, or the other are unwilling to look more closely at themselves, or women, to figure out the real problem of why things haven't worked out for them. Usually I think these guys are bitter about things not working out.

The two excuses I hear is this: 1) all women only want money. 2) women don't like men who are nice, they like bad boys. But all the guys I hear saying, "yeah, I never get any dates because they say I am too nice!"....well, frankly, it wasn't that they were too nice. It was probably because they were too boring - and the women were too nice to tell them that, so they said they were too nice. But that is a different topic.



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02 May 2016, 9:46 pm

I'm financially stable and just prefer a man to be self-sufficient, ie. able to support himself without expecting me to do it for him. I'm thankful that I am in a position right now where I can be with a guy just because he makes me happy, not out of financial necessity.

I have typically dated men who made roughly what I do, but since I've started getting ahead a little in my own career, that has started shifting a little. My last boyfriend made less than I do and so does a guy I recently started seeing.

I honestly don't care, but part of me worries that he cares and I have found myself trying to avoid talking about work or anything finance-related. The last thing I want to do is make him feel self-conscious about it. Hope it doesn't cause problems because I really like him a lot. Guess time will tell.



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02 May 2016, 10:33 pm

I would rather be with a guy that has stable income, but I would still want to make money to support myself. How much money a guy makes isn't the one of the main things that I would look for. I don't think I could possibly feel attracted to a guy just because they were rich and I don't really understand how that happens either. I mean, I focus more on things like how much we would be able to relate to each other, their personality, interests ect.



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02 May 2016, 11:42 pm

I think you are asking, is it OK to be attracted to a rich man? And, why does it feel like it's Not OK to be attracted to a righ man? Frankly, I think we've all been brainwashed to think that women should never depend on men for support of any kind including financially. That actually, the measure of a woman is inversely related to the amount of support she gets from the male sex. The less support, the more the woman. Unfortunately, this mindset leaves desire out of the equation entirely. I dated a man who made a lot of money, drove a fast car and that scared me a lot. I felt inferior to him. He was also not the greatest at building up my self-esteem and I had this nagging feeling that I was actually only out for his money...