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08 May 2016, 1:52 am

long-term use of more than 4000 IU/ day (D is a fat-soluble vitamin, so it gets stored and builds up) can cause vomiting, hallucinations, abnormal heart rhythms, high calcium levels, increased thirst, and even lead to coma and death.



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08 May 2016, 3:43 pm

"I have low-D (as opposed to the more recognized low-T, but I digress).

Weekly doses of 50,000 IU of Vitamin-D were common several years ago (and still are for acute care), but research showed that such a dosage, especially at one time, does more harm than good. The current recommended course is a daily dose of 5,000 IU for a total weekly dose of 35,000 IU.

So, while a single dose of 50,000 IU is sometimes needed, it shouldn't be sustained beyond a multi-dose of 35,000 IU.

And, yes, when one's Vit-D levels are normal, it is pleasant."
This and Vitamin D3 is better than D2, which what the doctors give you. Luckily Vitamin D is dirt cheap. You can get a 6 1/2 month supply for about $7.



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09 May 2016, 6:26 am

I was on the 50,000 units of Vitamin D once a week for nearly 18 months. A bone density test showed a calcium deficiency along with my low levels of vitamin D. I switched to 5,000 units daily along with 900 units of calcium when the prescription ran out.

My next blood test should be interesting.


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18 May 2016, 10:40 am

Ask a dr. "Who" is knowledgable in this area.

My guess is most people have low D.
I do. My doc put me on a high dose slow release taken one time a week.

RX ran out and I now take a daily.

me... not that kind of Doc. 8O


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18 May 2016, 10:55 am

This is certainly some useful information.
A lot of people also have thyroid-issues which require iodine-supplements.
Lots of neuro-toxic substances are in the food/air/water-supplies so exercise due-diligence.


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18 May 2016, 11:14 am

Vitamin D3 is better absorbed than D2. D2 still works but unless if you're vegan, there is no reason not to use D3.
If you don't suffer from malabsorption, you shouldn't take more than 100,000 IU every 2 months (usually every 3 months is largely enough, it's already a relatively high dose). If you suffer from malabsorption, the doctor might increase the dose to 100,000 IU / month but only in this case and it requires close monitoring with regular blood tests because it's already at the toxicity limit and it's what would happen if malabsorption syndrome improves. Such high doses are prescription only anyway (at least in my area).



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18 May 2016, 6:14 pm

cathylynn wrote:
long-term use of more than 4000 IU/ day (D is a fat-soluble vitamin, so it gets stored and builds up) can cause vomiting, hallucinations, abnormal heart rhythms, high calcium levels, increased thirst, and even lead to coma and death.

I take 6000 IU / day. I get my blood tested regularly and my level is right around 30 (without supplements it was 10 - definitely deficient). It needs to be over 100 to be toxic and I'm nowhere near that. Obviously not everyone absorbs anywhere near the full amount, especially when it's ingested in pill form. The IU number is highly misleading.



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19 May 2016, 1:02 pm

I was told by my doctor that I was deficient and he told me to take 2000 I.U. per day. I guess I was only mildly deficient.


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19 May 2016, 1:14 pm

marshall wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
long-term use of more than 4000 IU/ day (D is a fat-soluble vitamin, so it gets stored and builds up) can cause vomiting, hallucinations, abnormal heart rhythms, high calcium levels, increased thirst, and even lead to coma and death.

I take 6000 IU / day. I get my blood tested regularly and my level is right around 30 (without supplements it was 10 - definitely deficient). It needs to be over 100 to be toxic and I'm nowhere near that. Obviously not everyone absorbs anywhere near the full amount, especially when it's ingested in pill form. The IU number is highly misleading.

It's vitamin D2 you're talking about, I think ?
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/84/4/694.full



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23 May 2016, 2:22 am

Vitamin D is fat soluble. I've noticed levels are really sensitive to weight fluctuations.

Rule of thumb: If you are overweight and you are not in the sun a lot, you are probably vitamin D deficient. If you are very skinny you should approach vitamin D with more care.

Also, scientists are having a chicken and egg problem with vitamin D. There seems to be some agreement that overweight causes vitamin D deficiency, but from personal experience I'd say it's a vicious circle.



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08 Dec 2020, 12:34 am

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I'm always hearing how we don't get enough Vitamin D in the winter, so I started taking Vitamin D drops. But I didn't feel any different. I wasn't really feeling bad before taking them, either. Now it's spring, the weather is very gradually getting warmer and there's more sunlight. And the past two weeks I've been feeling like garbage. I feel depressed, tired and weak during the day. Yesterday just buying groceries felt like a major chore. More so than usual. I don't feel like eating much. I feel like just standing up is difficult. It's like I'm slowly being pulled into the ground. I just want to lay down all afternoon, and the warmer weather just adds to the guilt. I'm hoping I'll bounce back enough when the weekend arrives because I'm going to my parent's for Mother's Day.

I still take a mutivitamin every day.
There is something called Seasonal Affective Disorder(SAD) where people get depressed during winter because of the lack of sunlight. SAD is fairly common but there is also something more rarer called Reverse SAD where people get depressed during the summer. It is often thought that vit D deficiency plays a part in SAD. I wonder if vit D intolerance plays a part in Reverse SAD & if so taking vit D supplements would make someone more depressed instead of helping their depression.


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14 Dec 2020, 9:21 pm

Years ago, I was diagnosed with a vitamin D deficiency. Since then, I have been taking a daily vitamin D3. I am on the low end of normal weight, and I walk for 2 hours, once or twice a day. I still struggle with fatigue.

Recently, I was also diagnosed with Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome. But the doctor did not prescribe any medications. So, I increased my water and salt intake, and wear prescribed compression stockings. ...And still struggle with fatigue.

Who knows what diagnosis will pop up next? Or if it will finally fix the problem?
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15 Dec 2020, 1:00 am

Knofskia wrote:
Years ago, I was diagnosed with a vitamin D deficiency. Since then, I have been taking a daily vitamin D3. I am on the low end of normal weight, and I walk for 2 hours, once or twice a day. I still struggle with fatigue.

Recently, I was also diagnosed with Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome. But the doctor did not prescribe any medications. So, I increased my water and salt intake, and wear prescribed compression stockings. ...And still struggle with fatigue.

Who knows what diagnosis will pop up next? Or if it will finally fix the problem?
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Have you ever looked into Chronic Fatigue Syndrome :?: Some docs don't really believe it is a real thing but a good doc would be willing to investigate & try things. There may also be a chance that you have sleep problems. Poor sleep can cause fatigue. My girlfriend may have Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome. She gets dizzy doing things like showering, changing various positions, or exerting herself too much. She has LOTS of various seemingly unrelated issues & problems thou that her doc doesn't really care to investigate. She needs to get a new doc but it's difficult rite now with the Covid stuff. Lots of docs want to do telehealth & are not letting new patients have office appointments unless it is something serious & urgent.


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15 Dec 2020, 1:18 am

I take Vitamin D for MS. That and having a positive attitude has helped me have no symptoms in the last 15 years.


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17 Dec 2020, 9:56 pm

nick007 wrote:
Knofskia wrote:
Years ago, I was diagnosed with a vitamin D deficiency. Since then, I have been taking a daily vitamin D3. I am on the low end of normal weight, and I walk for 2 hours, once or twice a day. I still struggle with fatigue.

Recently, I was also diagnosed with Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome. But the doctor did not prescribe any medications. So, I increased my water and salt intake, and wear prescribed compression stockings. ...And still struggle with fatigue.

Who knows what diagnosis will pop up next? Or if it will finally fix the problem?
:shrug:
Have you ever looked into Chronic Fatigue Syndrome :?: Some docs don't really believe it is a real thing but a good doc would be willing to investigate & try things. There may also be a chance that you have sleep problems. Poor sleep can cause fatigue. My girlfriend may have Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome. She gets dizzy doing things like showering, changing various positions, or exerting herself too much. She has LOTS of various seemingly unrelated issues & problems thou that her doc doesn't really care to investigate. She needs to get a new doc but it's difficult rite now with the Covid stuff. Lots of docs want to do telehealth & are not letting new patients have office appointments unless it is something serious & urgent.

Sleep was the first thing I tried to work on before consulting with a doctor. I tried setting up a regular sleep schedule. I tried a white noise machine - which did help me get into a deeper, more dream-filled sleep. I tried melatonin - which was a bad experience for me. When I took the melatonin, immediately after taking it, I had to go to sleep. It hurt so much fighting the effects if I tired to stay awake (because I forgot to take care of something before bed, for example).

Chronic Fatigue Syndrome has no associated treatment plan as far as I know. So, I am not sure what benefit there is from getting that diagnosis.


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18 Dec 2020, 1:24 am

eric76 wrote:
The world's leading researcher on Vitamin D, Dr. Michael Holick, has studied the differences between the two and found that there is very little difference between D2 and D3.


It's his brother Alan Colin Holick I feel sorry for.