NTs don't get it why we are mad at them for leaving us out

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TwilightPrincess
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25 Jul 2018, 8:49 pm

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Ok just the impression I got from you is that you had no issues and were an NT seeking to understand ASD as perhaps a loved one of yours had it.

No shame in that.

I can only go on what I perceived as an NT presentation.


Why do I come across as NT to you?

Most NTs would be upset about being left out since they tend to be more social than people on the spectrum.



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25 Jul 2018, 9:12 pm

It's not meant as an insult. I really did think you were here for a family member.



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25 Jul 2018, 9:29 pm

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HistoryGal wrote:
Ok just the impression I got from you is that you had no issues and were an NT seeking to understand ASD as perhaps a loved one of yours had it.

No shame in that.

I can only go on what I perceived as an NT presentation.


Why do I come across as NT to you?

Most NTs would be upset about being left out since they tend to be more social than people on the spectrum.


To Twilight: All autistic folks have a third eyeball in their foreheads. You pic doesn't have that. :lol:

To:HistoryGal: you might wanna consider using a little common sense already and realize that most folks on WP are on the autism spectrum.

First you rabidly attack me for being a NT who "doesn't know how to ASD folks" (or some such vitriolic crap), without it even occurring to you to consider the obvious:that I might be ASD myself (which indeed the panel of docs declared that I was).

Just about EVERY post Miss Twilight has ever made in her short career her on WP has been about how quirky and autistic she is. So how on Earth do you manage to miss that?

How can someone you cant see in person have any kind of psychological "presentation" to an observer?

Oh I get it!

Neither Twilight,nor I, have hair triggers, and don't get angry at the drop of a hat like you do. So therefore ...we both must be members of the NT enemy! Is THAT your reasoning?



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25 Jul 2018, 9:41 pm

How sweet of you to display your chivalrous side to be her knight in shining armor. Your critique of me is meaningless. NTs do post on here...many just to learn.

Go take a cold shower.



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26 Jul 2018, 7:44 am

HistoryGal wrote:
How sweet of you to display your chivalrous side to be her knight in shining armor. Your critique of me is meaningless. NTs do post on here... many just to learn. Go take a cold shower.
It is not "knighthood" to illuminate the truth.



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26 Jul 2018, 12:18 pm

Personally I don't care.NT'S have always hated me and we never had anything to talk about.I also feel we don't need a relationships that's beyond regular acquaintances becasue of our social difficulties. Remember,we are a far different people(and superior) than everyone else,including people with other disabilities besides Autism/Asperger's.



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26 Jul 2018, 12:45 pm

I am visiting one congregation and for the most part just going to worship and talking to people and having lunch but I am not looking to try and make friends there. I am also contemplating contacting the worship leader at the last place I just left because I am very angry with him for the way I not only got treated by him and most of the people there.

I am also really angry with one of the other attendees who go there who is the sister of a big time physician in the holistic health field. Believe me, she thought that she was all it because of a being a popular woman. Yet she very insecure and could be destructive. She often hated it whenever one of her friends talked to me and would quickly get jealous. She often pulled them away from me. I met her mother once, who was the complete opposite and she did not even like that.



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27 Jul 2018, 6:08 am

HistoryGal wrote:
How sweet of you to display your chivalrous side to be her knight in shining armor. Your critique of me is meaningless. NTs do post on here...many just to learn.

Go take a cold shower.


Looks like you could use some cooling off yourself.



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27 Jul 2018, 6:12 am

rick42 wrote:
Personally I don't care.NT'S have always hated me and we never had anything to talk about.I also feel we don't need a relationships that's beyond regular acquaintances becasue of our social difficulties. Remember,we are a far different people(and superior) than everyone else,including people with other disabilities besides Autism/Asperger's.


I've known at least a 1000 autistic people in real life. And most no one who's been around other autistics their whole life has any such notions. You think all the kids at exclusively autistic schools were nice to me? Think again. Autistics are not not nearly as different the way you would like to think, and most are hardly superior to anyone else.



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27 Jul 2018, 6:24 am

Generally, I don't mind being left out so much but I really don't like it when they encroach on my space, I don't enjoy listening to them socialise.



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27 Jul 2018, 6:59 am

To me everyone is them, even all the other autistics I was mostly around.



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27 Jul 2018, 7:35 am

I have gotten used to being alone most of the time though I do have friends it's just when I go to the same place over and over again and seeing people bond while I can't seem to make a connection other than at acquaintanceship level that it hurts. It hurt even more than I am acknowledged and these people appear to be excited to see me but they don't really make an effort. Rather they make plans with everyone but me and right in front of me too.

Things I have been told:
1. The other party wanted to invite me but they had to ask their friends who said no because they thought I would be too hard to handle
2. I need to reach out more and find out what's going on
3. My schedule conflicts with their plans

You can't even call these people out without them either making excuses or getting defensive



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27 Jul 2018, 7:59 am

EzraS wrote:
To me everyone is them, even all the other autistics I was mostly around.

What's your friend count like? I have 1 friend that I actually see sometimes, the few others that I have are distant, people I may visit once every few years.



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27 Jul 2018, 9:12 am

domineekee wrote:
EzraS wrote:
To me everyone is them, even all the other autistics I was mostly around.

What's your friend count like? I have 1 friend that I actually see sometimes, the few others that I have are distant, people I may visit once every few years.


I don't really have the friend chip. I'm perfectly fine with people being acquaintances. Never had any desire for anything deeper or become attached to anyone or have anyone attached to me.

Rather than say waiting for people to invite me somewhere or whatever, I would just join some public event to be around others. That way I could come and go as I please. No one is expecting anything from me and vice versa.

I do have a male cousin my age I've been raised with and we are close. But we are often doing our own separate thing.



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27 Jul 2018, 2:08 pm

EzraS wrote:
domineekee wrote:
EzraS wrote:
To me everyone is them, even all the other autistics I was mostly around.

What's your friend count like? I have 1 friend that I actually see sometimes, the few others that I have are distant, people I may visit once every few years.


I don't really have the friend chip. I'm perfectly fine with people being acquaintances. Never had any desire for anything deeper or become attached to anyone or have anyone attached to me.

Rather than say waiting for people to invite me somewhere or whatever, I would just join some public event to be around others. That way I could come and go as I please. No one is expecting anything from me and vice versa.

I do have a male cousin my age I've been raised with and we are close. But we are often doing our own separate thing.

I'd enjoy some more company sometimes but it takes me a long time to relax around new people.



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27 Jul 2018, 3:06 pm

Summer_Twilight wrote:
I have gotten used to being alone most of the time though I do have friends it's just when I go to the same place over and over again and seeing people bond while I can't seem to make a connection other than at acquaintanceship level that it hurts. It hurt even more than I am acknowledged and these people appear to be excited to see me but they don't really make an effort. Rather they make plans with everyone but me and right in front of me too.

Things I have been told:
1. The other party wanted to invite me but they had to ask their friends who said no because they thought I would be too hard to handle
2. I need to reach out more and find out what's going on
3. My schedule conflicts with their plans

You can't even call these people out without them either making excuses or getting defensive


Yeah. I know what you mean. A new girl moved in and seems to be in a group of friends already and I've been here a year and not really bonded with anyone.

I get on ok as acquaintances with people, but very rarely get invited out... apart from by some of the guys. I seem to make friends with old ladies or young blokes. It's weird. I can't relate to women my own age.

I don't know what it is exactly that is too different about me.