What if there was a legal fast-food-eating age?

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10 Jun 2019, 9:46 am

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Cereals tend to be "fortified" with varying amounts of vitamins and minerals. Something like "Product 19" is fortified with 100% of the "recommended daily allowance" of many vitamins and minerals.


It’s somewhat of a gimmick, though, to make parents feel less bad about giving their kids Lucky Charms.

Getting enough protein and fiber are more of a challenge when one is low income.


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10 Jun 2019, 9:50 am

I agree with that. Protein is in meats----which are quite expensive (except, at times, for chicken).

Fiber is a challenge because many people don't like things like "shredded wheat."



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10 Jun 2019, 9:58 am

Thank you for the information Twilightprincess, the difference doesn't seem to be that significant.

I was being careful since this seems to be a very touchy subject with (some) Americans and considered a class issue. I worked since I was 14, I've been homeless and experienced significant poverty - I've had to learn through trial and error how to take care and feed myself properly, especially during times when I had to support myself through manual labour.


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10 Jun 2019, 10:07 am

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Thank you for the information Twilightprincess, the difference doesn't seem to be that significant.

I was being careful since this seems to be a very touchy subject with (some) Americans and considered a class issue. I worked since I was 14, I've been homeless and experienced significant poverty - I've had to learn through trial and error how to take care and feed myself properly, especially during times when I had to support myself through manual labour.


It is considered a touchy subject and class does play a big role in it as well.

Feeding oneself during times of extreme poverty is a little different than feeding kids because then you have pickiness to contend with, you want and need convenience, and you don’t want to waste money on food that the kids won’t eat anyway.

Lots of parents get into a very unhealthy routine because of these factors.


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10 Jun 2019, 10:11 am

Many people in impoverished urban areas don't have access to decent supermarkets which sell "healthy" foods at decent prices. There are supermarkets, all right----but they are usually at least rather expensive. And bodegas (convenience stores) even more so.

Many times, one needs a car to go to these supermarkets, usually located in some nearby suburb. It's not easy lugging a wagon full of groceries onto buses or trains (if there is public transit access).



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10 Jun 2019, 10:49 am

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BenderRodriguez wrote:
Thank you for the information Twilightprincess, the difference doesn't seem to be that significant.

I was being careful since this seems to be a very touchy subject with (some) Americans and considered a class issue. I worked since I was 14, I've been homeless and experienced significant poverty - I've had to learn through trial and error how to take care and feed myself properly, especially during times when I had to support myself through manual labour.


It is considered a touchy subject and class does play a big role in it as well.

Feeding oneself during times of extreme poverty is a little different than feeding kids because then you have pickiness to contend with, you want and need convenience, and you don’t want to waste money on food that the kids won’t eat anyway.

Lots of parents get into a very unhealthy routine because of these factors.


I know what you mean, I have a picky eater (aspie) son myself. You can work around it - I acknowledged already that it takes time, effort and a lot of patience (creativity and extra money don't hurt either). It's easy to forget when you're younger how much it's worth investing in your health before you get old.

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Many people in impoverished urban areas don't have access to decent supermarkets which sell "healthy" foods at decent prices. There are supermarkets, all right----but they are usually at least rather expensive. And bodegas (convenience stores) even more so.

Many times, one needs a car to go to these supermarkets, usually located in some nearby suburb. It's not easy lugging a wagon full of groceries onto buses or trains (if there is public transit access).


Another good point, I've always been grateful for living in places with great public transport!


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10 Jun 2019, 10:53 am

My doc put me on a more healthy diet, and my grocery bill shot up by 25%.


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10 Jun 2019, 11:08 am

Fnord wrote:
My doc put me on a more healthy diet, and my grocery bill shot up by 25%.


I know the feeling. I invariably spend more when I’m trying to eat healthy. Cutting back on empty carbs and eating more nutritious food is going to cost more money no matter what.


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10 Jun 2019, 2:01 pm

Age discrimination

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10 Jun 2019, 4:06 pm

I'm a very picky eater who loves fast food thou I'm not as picky as I used to be. When I was little people were worried I would die cuz of how little I ate due to my pickiness. I think it's much better for a person or animal to eat unhealthy than to starve themselves to death. That said I do think there's things that should be done to get people to cut down on fast food. There should be programs to teach healthy eating habits. Skewls could offer healthier food that doesn't taste like cr@p to most people. Fast food companies could offer healthier alternatives & they could quit marking/advertising to kids. There should also be programs that encourage kids to exercise & be more active.


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10 Jun 2019, 4:28 pm

Fnord wrote:
My doc put me on a more healthy diet, and my grocery bill shot up by 25%.



:mrgreen:


Only twenty five percent?


The city where I live, contains almost zero grocery stores. Just liquor store.

If you live there and don't have a car, or time to shop, even getting to ghetto lil Food Maxx is not practical


Laws about food, disproportionately punish poor people

"Discrimination"

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10 Jun 2019, 4:37 pm

I would start walking the streets to give it up to strangers for McNuggets. And become a male "happy meal ho"! :(



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11 Jun 2019, 12:37 pm

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I would start walking the streets to give it up to strangers for McNuggets. And become a male "happy meal ho"! :(
The "Happy Meal" is the major problem with fast food. It's marketed/advertised to chidren by the name & by including a toy from the latest children's movie. it also automatically comes with a soda instead of something more healthy like juice or water.


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11 Jun 2019, 12:59 pm

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I would start walking the streets to give it up to strangers for McNuggets. And become a male "happy meal ho"! :(
The "Happy Meal" is the major problem with fast food. It's marketed/advertised to children by the name & by including a toy from the latest children's movie. it also automatically comes with a soda instead of something more healthy like juice or water.
The default menu always points toward the more profitable junk food because it is cheaper and easier to make than healthy food.


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12 Jun 2019, 12:57 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I agree with that. Protein is in meats----which are quite expensive (except, at times, for chicken).

Fiber is a challenge because many people don't like things like "shredded wheat."


Eating well can be expensive unless you decide to go vegetarian, which not many people do. When I told myself I'd go vegetarian (didn't, no willpower) my healthy vegetarian groceries were about the same price as average groceries. I wanted to make sure I was buying healthy vegetarian food because you have to be careful about nutrition when you give up meat.



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12 Jun 2019, 1:33 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:
I agree with that. Protein is in meats----which are quite expensive (except, at times, for chicken).

Fiber is a challenge because many people don't like things like "shredded wheat."


Eating well can be expensive unless you decide to go vegetarian, which not many people do. When I told myself I'd go vegetarian (didn't, no willpower) my healthy vegetarian groceries were about the same price as average groceries. I wanted to make sure I was buying healthy vegetarian food because you have to be careful about nutrition when you give up meat.
My 2nd girlfriend switched an almost vegetarian diet while we were together & she had to start taking some vitamins/supplements. She switched to that diet partly to lose weight & because some of her Aspie issues were better on that diet.


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