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11 Nov 2019, 2:53 am

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Rock and pop have gone down hill for sure because the production trends are awful. It effects commercial and non commercial.


Well I mostly listen to metal and there is some good stuff in there. I mean if one does not like harsh vocals..there is metal that doesn't have those. Like there is some awesome power metal stuff some of it sounds a lot like classical music but on guitars and with singing. Though I do like one more recent rock band called The Growlers like IDK i really like those guys its certainly newer music but it kind of has the feel of some of that like older 60's type music.

What I really dislike in some of the more commercial music is all that autotune, like I just really don't like how it makes vocals sound. The only time I ever appreciate autotune is if the band is trying to do like a robot voice for part of the song. Like not sure it was actually autotune, but in that Styx song Mr. Roboto I don't mind the voice distortion in that song because it actually goes with the whole mr. roboto thing....but in like pop and hip hop songs where they use it to supposedly enhance their voice or whatever I hate it, it just sounds terrible to me.

Also granted some people may not like this sort of discussion, but its much worse if I am tripping on psychedelics...like it goes from just being something I don't like to being something that makes me nauseous and then I want to vomit. So of course I prefer to be somewhere I have some control over the music if I am tripping or at least somewhere that is not going to play that kind of gross pop crap. Its kind of funny like I literally cannot stand some of that stuff even for a minute whenever I have been under the influence of psychedelics.


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11 Nov 2019, 2:58 am

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I adore old music and don't get the thrill of most new music that I've heard...on the radio, friends' playlists, and from various other places. It just doesn't sound....real, I guess. I prefer more acoustic styles (especially vocal styles. I can't stand robotic-sounding vocal styles). But that's just me. No offense to anyone who loves newer music. :)


Well that is the whole thing though, there is new music that isn't all autotuned and such...I am not into that sort of stuff either. I mostly like a lot of metal and well there is a lot of variation there, there is harsher stuff with growly or screechy vocals and then there is symphonic stuff or like classical sounding stuff and clean vocals without the harsh sort of singing I mean there is just so much I doubt I could even listen to it all in my lifetime.

I mean I have had to use streaming like spotify and just search on youtube and what not to find different music to listen to there is tons of good stuff out there...but its not on the radio for whatever reason.

Also what I hate is some of those autotuned electronicy songs where for a bit it sounds like its building up to something, and all it builds up to is what sounds like just a bunch of frat party nonsense...no epic guitars or crazy epic music just the sound of too much drinks for 20 year olds and vomit. Granted I like some more electronic style music but that would be more industrial style I don't like the like overly happy, poppy techno type stuff.


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11 Nov 2019, 12:51 pm

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Well I mostly listen to metal and there is some good stuff in there. I mean if one does not like harsh vocals..there is metal that doesn't have those. Like there is some awesome power metal stuff some of it sounds a lot like classical music but on guitars and with singing. Though I do like one more recent rock band called The Growlers like IDK i really like those guys its certainly newer music but it kind of has the feel of some of that like older 60's type music.


My problem with metal these days is the layering of 10 guitars and production of drums where they have neutered the cymbals. Pick any band but compare old alice in chains to new. The new stuff is boring and without any teeth and every song sounds the same. I like bands to sound like real bands on the album and not generic radio rock.

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Also granted some people may not like this sort of discussion, but its much worse if I am tripping on psychedelics...like it goes from just being something I don't like to being something that makes me nauseous and then I want to vomit. So of course I prefer to be somewhere I have some control over the music if I am tripping or at least somewhere that is not going to play that kind of gross pop crap. Its kind of funny like I literally cannot stand some of that stuff even for a minute whenever I have been under the influence of psychedelics.


Having only used Cannabis my experience is limited but I think drugs strip away the filter we have on the world and a lot of the absolute BS we tend to tune out is impossible to tolerate under the influence, because our perception has changed and our senses are more responsive. The most sensible response to autotuned trap music is to drink. Lots.



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16 Nov 2019, 10:15 pm

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Hues Corporation did “Rock the Boat” in 1974.


That was an excellent song in my opinion. The '70s ... yes ... that was my favorite era of music. It was magical for me. The music in me blossomed in that era. Though quite young (still in school), I began performing music professionally in this decade. It seems so long ago now, but when I lay down at night and think back to it, it seems like yesterday. I took too much for granted back then. It came so easily. I had a red carpet lain before me.

True, as the OP mentioned, there is good music today too. And often you do have to look beyond that Top 20 to find what you like. But for the most part, I am a product of the past. I have not adapted too well to the musical styles of today. I performed music and did not realize how lucky I was. I have some hearing loss today because of it. Music was often more lavish then (often with more instrumentation). And because of trumpet players in my group who had been with Elvis and other big names, my ears took a beating. I hear half in my right ear than what I hear in my left ear. Marvin Gaye's keyboardist once played with us. We had who was considered the third ranked drummer in the USA for awhile. It was magical back then. I guess because of my nostalgia, I cannot appreciate as I should the music of today as I should. Perhaps when I began performing music in the latter part of the '70s, the many '50s retreads we covered can be partially to blame for that. Even in the disco era I focused on music of the past. But ... I loved disco. And yes, I did play some disco.

Sorry to ramble, but "Rock the Boat" was a song I immensely loved.


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02 Jan 2020, 9:44 pm

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I mean you seriously just have to dig a little bit and there is new music that is amazing.


Absolutely correct. You have to dig for it. I've been searching out music for a long time. A lot of the music I listen to, when other people hear it, ask "what is that?!?!". I listen to a wide spectrum of music. That Mongolian throat rock band is good too.

Here is some amazing harpsichord solo type stuff. It gets going about 5 minutes in:


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14 Feb 2020, 4:26 pm

What we've grown-up with partially shapes our musical tastes. Yet, it's been said that rock-music from the 1960s through the 1970s, and part of the 1980s was better than too much of the music that appeals to youth and young-adults today.

Personally, from my generation's perspectives, the above mentioned is true. Yet, I've heard current examples of 'new' music that are quite thoughtful.



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16 Feb 2020, 1:34 pm

Re: New Music - Metal, Soundtracks, Jazz

From to time to time, I seek out new music to add to my ever-growing collection. Sometimes, watching a movie, the orchestral soundtrack would intrigue me enough to obtain it. I also like the occasional new jazz albums. As far as metal goes, since I'm not into growling, and I'm basically old school, I've dipped my toes in the New Wave of Traditional Heavy Metal - bands reminiscent of the sound of Saxon, Maiden, Priest and Hanoi Rocks such as White Wizzard, Cauldron, Enforcer, and a few others.



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16 Feb 2020, 2:11 pm

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What we've grown-up with partially shapes our musical tastes. Yet, it's been said that rock-music from the 1960s through the 1970s, and part of the 1980s was better than too much of the music that appeals to youth and young-adults today.

Personally, from my generation's perspectives, the above mentioned is true. Yet, I've heard current examples of 'new' music that are quite thoughtful.


I grew up listening to that stuff since my parents did. My dad used to have a big collection of vinyls, sadly the vast majority got destroyed since they were being stored and the building they were in leaked, I mean its pretty damn sad...so many rock music vinyls destroyed. It still hurts to think about it I just recall sitting there for hours looking at the artwork on them I liked the music to but some of those had really cool album art.

But yeah I think a lot of stuff I like is at least somewhat influenced by earlier music but then some of the newer artists go beyond some of that. I mean some of the power metal bands I like seriously almost sound like they're just easily playing beethoven on guitar, you hear it in some other kinds of metal sometimes as well, but seems most prevalent in power metal. As good as a lot of the classic rock is, I never heard Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Rush, Rolling stones or any of those guys do that with a guitar.


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16 Feb 2020, 2:27 pm

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Re: New Music - Metal, Soundtracks, Jazz

From to time to time, I seek out new music to add to my ever-growing collection. Sometimes, watching a movie, the orchestral soundtrack would intrigue me enough to obtain it. I also like the occasional new jazz albums. As far as metal goes, since I'm not into growling, and I'm basically old school, I've dipped my toes in the New Wave of Traditional Heavy Metal - bands reminiscent of the sound of Saxon, Maiden, Priest and Hanoi Rocks such as White Wizzard, Cauldron, Enforcer, and a few others.


I do like a lot of bands with harsher vocals, but I also like a lot of stuff without that...my least favorite kind of metal is probably death metal, but I like black metal definitely prefer the kind where the artists actually improved bands like Behemoth, Dimmu Borgir and Satyricon that did not limit themselves to stuff that sounds like it was recorded on an old cassette tape phone message machine.

But I also like the New wave of traditional heavy metal stuff, it was Iron Maiden that really got me into metal. I had heard some metal I liked, like I already had been listening to a bit of Cradle of Filth but I wasn't really like into metal at that point. Then I heard either Number of the Beast or Run to the Hills by Iron Maiden and it was the most amazing thing I had ever heard I'm almost surprised I didn't just die of amazement, and from that point forward there was no turning back from metal.


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20 Feb 2020, 2:13 pm

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I listen mostly to the Cure, Steely Dan, Simply Red, etc. But I really enjoy the singer LP, who is new - to me. I like Lady Gaga, as well. It's hard for me to accept new music and the singers/instrumentals have to be very interesting to gain my attention.


I've heard of El-P before, but not LP.

Unrelated, for new music to get on my agenda, it has to be obvious better than all of the old music I have yet to get around to listening to, like new R.A. the Rugged Man or new Redman.


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25 Feb 2020, 6:49 am

What I dislike about new music is that it's the same 20 songs being played repeatedly on half the radio stations. I do like that type of music but I don't wanna hear the same songs every half hour all day long. They could play more variety of artists or at least play more variety of songs by the same artists like play Taylor Swift's & Justin Bieber's older stuff instead of just their current latest hit.


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25 Feb 2020, 12:54 pm

jimmyjazzuk wrote:
My problem with metal these days is the layering of 10 guitars and production of drums where they have neutered the cymbals. Pick any band but compare old alice in chains to new. The new stuff is boring and without any teeth and every song sounds the same. I like bands to sound like real bands on the album and not generic radio rock.


Omg, yes. This. I don't listen to much in the way of newer metal releases for this reason. I love the sound of older death metal and thrash metal albums, that's just about 'perfect' production to my ears. I'd prefer even the rawest, most 'necro' sounding black metal album to the clean, over-produced sound typical of this era.

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What I really dislike in some of the more commercial music is all that autotune, like I just really don't like how it makes vocals sound. The only time I ever appreciate autotune is if the band is trying to do like a robot voice for part of the song. Like not sure it was actually autotune, but in that Styx song Mr. Roboto I don't mind the voice distortion in that song because it actually goes with the whole mr. roboto thing....but in like pop and hip hop songs where they use it to supposedly enhance their voice or whatever I hate it, it just sounds terrible to me.


Also this. Auto-tuned mumbling really has no appeal to me as a hip-hop fan. I like emcees who can show off their word play and their wit. You can't demonstrate your lyricism if your vocals are completely incomprehensible from mumbling and autotune. Luckily, there's current emcees who have a more 90's era approach. Your Old Droog, Benny The Butcher, even a lot of Wiki's stuff feels like that era but freshened up.

Generally speaking, the more underground you go the more likely you are to find stuff that bucks modern production trends, but at the same time, since bedroom producers can still record guitar tracks and run them through multiple virtual amps, or can use auto-tune plugins or whatever on vocals, being really obscure doesn't mean the artist won't have the sh***y modern production I can't stand.


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What I dislike about new music is that it's the same 20 songs being played repeatedly on half the radio stations. I do like that type of music but I don't wanna hear the same songs every half hour all day long. They could play more variety of artists or at least play more variety of songs by the same artists like play Taylor Swift's & Justin Bieber's older stuff instead of just their current latest hit.


Isn't that exactly how Top 40 radio has always worked?


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nick007 wrote:
What I dislike about new music is that it's the same 20 songs being played repeatedly on half the radio stations. I do like that type of music but I don't wanna hear the same songs every half hour all day long. They could play more variety of artists or at least play more variety of songs by the same artists like play Taylor Swift's & Justin Bieber's older stuff instead of just their current latest hit.
Isn't that exactly how Top 40 radio has always worked?
Yes; and most other formats, as well. There are a few "progressive" stations in the Los Angeles area, but I'm finding that Public Radio's "Morning Becomes Eclectic" program actually has a wider variety of new music.



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nick007 wrote:
What I dislike about new music is that it's the same 20 songs being played repeatedly on half the radio stations. I do like that type of music but I don't wanna hear the same songs every half hour all day long. They could play more variety of artists or at least play more variety of songs by the same artists like play Taylor Swift's & Justin Bieber's older stuff instead of just their current latest hit.


Isn't that exactly how Top 40 radio has always worked?
I remember some of those stations playing more variety. They played a wider range of new songs & artists & played some older songs by the hit artists. Instead of playing just the current top 40, they played some of the older top 40s stuff & they threw in some current stuff that didn't quite top the charts, & they also played some requested songs.


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Get off the damn radio....there is lots of good new music its just not being broadcasted. Seriously I bet if I was using the radio as my reference point I would hate new music to. But it is just sad to me some people submit to the idea there is no good new music .....when there is all kinds of stuff out there. I mean you seriously just have to dig a little bit and there is new music that is amazing.

Finding new music can be difficult and time-consuming, especially for someone like me, who dislikes the overwhelming majority of popular music.

For example, a few months ago I was looking for some new metal; I downloaded about ten albums and disliked all of them except a couple of songs. I just don't have the energy or attention span to continually listen to all the crap music in the world. If I had to pay for all that music, I wouldn't have been able to try it at all.