Aspie having NT friends and socializing

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Trueno
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30 Dec 2019, 3:16 am

Joe90 wrote:
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I agree with Kip. I have a small group of friends I used to work with and we go out for a curry once a month. It's usually fine, but if anyone invites someone else it's excruciating. It's been happening a lot lately and I'm thinking of quitting.


Are they NTs your age? How do you manage to keep them and be accepted by them without them ghosting or excluding you?
And my second cousin seems to always be out, a lot more than once a month, sometimes with one or two mates, other times with more like a larger group, and he is often tagged, like "[my second cousins's name] was at [name of bar or area] with [name of one friend] and 7 others".
I have a few friends, most are not NTs and aren't the going out to parties type, and others are older than me, and others are friends or relatives of relatives, etc. But I don't exactly have a group of NT peers that include me in their group. I did before but it didn't last long and they ghosted me and left me out, and I felt hurt so I didn't bother with them any more.

If my second cousin did get himself diagnosed (which his mother says he wants to get himself assessed) I don't think he would be qualified for an ASD diagnosis with an active social life like that.


It's only a small group, about my age. Because we used to work together we often talk about the bad old days. I do actually spend a lot of the time in "stand-by mode".
Ghosting and exclusion are not an issue for me, I'd find it a bit of a relief if I was excluded.
I keep going because Mrs Trueno thinks it's good for me... but any excuse (like bad weather) and I don't go.


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30 Dec 2019, 3:50 am

NTs rarely want to be talk to or associate with Aspies because we would hurt their social status. A real Aspie is a socially awkward introvert with no or a few friends. A real Aspies has little or no social life and experiences difficulties in social situations through out their entire life.

Social skills can not easily be learned, we often have severe difficulties reading body language, find it hard communicating and difficulties expressing emotions. As an extreme introvert with no friends I rarely talk to people unless I need to and I rarely initiate conversations because of my anxiety issues caused by my Aspergers. I avoid social events and make some excuses because I do not like socialising with people.



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30 Dec 2019, 2:14 pm

Rainbow_Belle wrote:
NTs rarely want to be talk to or associate with Aspies because we would hurt their social status. A real Aspie is a socially awkward introvert with no or a few friends. A real Aspies has little or no social life and experiences difficulties in social situations through out their entire life.

Social skills can not easily be learned, we often have severe difficulties reading body language, find it hard communicating and difficulties expressing emotions. As an extreme introvert with no friends I rarely talk to people unless I need to and I rarely initiate conversations because of my anxiety issues caused by my Aspergers. I avoid social events and make some excuses because I do not like socialising with people.


A “real Aspie” is someone who would fit the diagnostic criteria and who would receive a certain range of scores on specific tests (at least the ADOS and often the MMPI) administered by a psychologist.

Not all Aspies have an official diagnosis because not everyone has been tested for it.

There are extroverted people on the Spectrum. This group is still typically socially awkward. They often overshare with people instead of being excessively reserved.

We aren’t all carbon copies of each other.


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30 Dec 2019, 2:19 pm

I'm pretty much the "oversharer" type LOL



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30 Dec 2019, 2:46 pm

I’m both. I’m excessively reserved and when I do actually say something I overshare.



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30 Dec 2019, 4:19 pm

leahbear wrote:
I’m both. I’m excessively reserved and when I do actually say something I overshare.

LOL - I'm the opposite: I overshare and when I do actually back off I am excessively reserved.

Rainbow_Belle wrote:
A real Aspie is a socially awkward introvert with no or a few friends.

I'm a real Aspie and am a socially awkward extrovert with a few friends (if I can call them that).

Twilightprincess wrote:
A “real Aspie” is someone who would fit the diagnostic criteria and who would receive a certain range of scores on specific tests (at least the ADOS and often the MMPI) administered by a psychologist.

I'm a real Aspie who fits the diagnostic criteria and who did not receive a certain range of score on specific test (ADOS). I'm still sore about that. So I would amend "and" to "or" --- or tests sensitivity needs to be increased for the self-delusional (expert camouflagers).

@Joe90, back to you ---- I hope you find what's comfortable for you relative to your social needs and wants. (and cousins be darned.... like from a skein of wool --- ok, just having fun with word play, please disregard --- you know, like I don't want to curse so instead am comparing him to a holey sock... sorry)