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Do you agree with the Hierarchy of Relationships as stated?
Absolutely agree! 22%  22%  [ 4 ]
Mostly agree. 56%  56%  [ 10 ]
Not sure or Indifferent. 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
Mostly disagree. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Absolutely disagree! 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 18

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12 Jan 2020, 12:16 pm

According to Merriam-Webster...

frenemy (n): one who pretends to be a friend but is actually an enemy.

A.k.a., a "False Friend", a "Back-Stabber", or a "Traitor".



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12 Jan 2020, 12:23 pm

^ Aa that so... I've never heard the word used that way. 8O

But I'd say that'd make frenemy someone who was below disliked, at least if you knew they were only pretending. Disliked would be honest of their intentions, so they wouldn't be as bad as dishonest frenemies.



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12 Jan 2020, 12:44 pm

I think my work director is my frenemy. I wouldn't know a frenemy if she bopped me over the head with a pot and smiled and said she respected me.



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12 Jan 2020, 12:52 pm

Fnord wrote:
Again, what's in the poll is all my opinion, so I'd like to see more people express their opinions on it too.

If people vote in the poll, they should also post a comment.

Thank you.

I Mostly Agree but where I see some divergence is in certain domains such as business, politics, and organized crime, in which the relationship between two individuals can seem simultaneously friendly, intimate, and hostile etc.

What sort of relationships did all the various people who've been photographed in Jeffrey Epstein's company actually have with Mr. Epstein?


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13 Jan 2020, 8:57 am

I’ve also heard “frenemy” used for somebody who is both a friend and an enemy.

I’ve known people who feel that way about certain people.

You can’t live with them—and you can’t live without them.



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21 Jan 2020, 11:48 pm

Fnord wrote:
I'll throw this in for discussion and polling. It represents a 'romantic' hierarchy with the dominant characteristic in parentheses. Since this is something I came up with on my own, it is an opinion, thus your own opinions may vary.

Hierarchy of Relationships

• Spouse (Commitment)
• Lover (Intimacy)
• Friend (Trust)
• Associate (Respect)
• Acquaintance (Knowledge)
• Stranger (Indifference)
• Enemy (Hostility)

Most people start off as Strangers, and progress upward or downward from there, sequentially, taking each stage in turn. Thus, it implies that most people do not skip stages -- most people don't start off as Strangers and immediately become Lovers unless other factors are involved.

Not everyone follows this hierarchy as a sequence.

As other people have noted, someone can become (or turn out to be) an enemy from almost anywhere else in the hierarchy. Ex-spouses can become enemies. So can ex-lovers, ex-friends, or ex-associates.

Also, while I believe that the most stable romantic relationships (at least in the Western world) probably do follow the trajectory you've outlined, a lot of people (especially those who use dating apps and such) jump straight from "associate" (a few dates) to "lover," skipping over friendship.


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22 Jan 2020, 9:23 am

Mona Pereth wrote:
... while I believe that the most stable romantic relationships (at least in the Western world) probably do follow the trajectory you've outlined, a lot of people (especially those who use dating apps and such) jump straight from "associate" (a few dates) to "lover," skipping over friendship.
And how long do these "Lust at first sight" relationships usually last?



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22 Jan 2020, 9:57 am

Fnord wrote:
color=black]And how long do these "Lust at first sight" relationships usually last?[/color]

So far over 25 years on this one. Our lust served us well: we're a good ASD/NT match.