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Always carry an umbrella. In case, you know, you end up on another planet, attacked, without fully developed ninja powers....
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It's a beautiful day!! !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE6qsTj59wk

OOPS! What ouch? Nooo, just joking, Chuck, just joking. Really! It does not read like you've had a half-dozen triple expressos. Maybe just a few. Sorrrry!

And I used the wrong term. Sorry. Not familiar with them. Daughter does crunches. I was thinking "sit-ups" like from gym class.

Lower right part of my abdomen hurts - not badly, but uncomfortably. Always has (at least in recent memory), when I've tried to do one. Doc says there's nothing obviously wrong - checked out thoroughly inside and out - had a lap surgery two years ago where they removed something that oughtn't have been there and he looked over that area at my request quite thoroughly. Nothing internally wrong. The medical profession's reaction to my complaint is "huh. Isn't that odd. Well, don't do it if it hurts too much."

Ok, as soon as I can feel my hands again, I wanna be able to do a pushup.
(no laughing)

Cool map/graphics/guide. I was doing it wrong.

The rest is gonna have to wait. I'm having trouble moving from sitting to standing and am walking in a manner distinctly reminiscent of a duck this morning. But it only hurts when I move. ow. ow. ow. At least the back does not hurt at all. So far.

Ah, Docs. Gotta luv 'em. (Hurts? Don't do it.)

Maybe it would be better to try half-crunches before moving on to full sit-ups. Begin doing these with feet hooked under something, and they'll be easier. We'll build your abs up slowly. Just go back until you can feel some resistance... ...and then right back up. Nice smooth pace. As you get stronger, can go back farther, or hold the back position a little longer.



There is a small triangular shaped muscle called the pyramidalis (straight down the linea alba, above the pubic symphysis). Is your pain way down there? If so, could just be a weak muscle - they aren't much bigger than your index finger. Sometimes they are very small, or even missing on one or both sides. Does it lie closer to the anterior superior iliac spine? If so, could be a slight hernia, or torn connective tissue. Did they cut through one of the sections of your rectus abdominus? [shown in boxed picture as "tendinous inscriptions", eight sections. (some people have ten sections) ] If so, it could be scar tissue, or they may have cut a nerve that supplies the sensory function of that area, causing a "strange" or "painful" sensation. If so, the sensation may diminish with repeated exercise.

I will include a few more diagrams for information purposes.
...And info on how to deal with soreness!

Do either of these two series help you find your "sore spot"? (pink colored areas are muscles, white areas are connective tissue, apart from the skin and bones )

Muscle soreness:
http://www.uspharmacist.com/econnect/De ... 8_1734.htm

Yes, actually. (Where the hell do you come up with all these diagrams!! ! And where were you when I was trying to tutor the kid through her health class! Couldn't find any learning aids that were decent at all! Had to rely on a primitive 3-D graphics program I bartered for.) It's right about where the line goes that's leads to the words "internal oblique, cut and reflected" that area - can poke at one specific spot, every time, and identify it. Always the same, lower right.

No, they made two incisions - one in the bellybutton and one small one that was much lower on a straight line below, just above the pubic bone. Did everything with a lap, rather than having to do a large-scale slice and dice (thankfully). I do vaguely remember that I had a lot of pain in that area when I was carrying the kid, the hyperactive bowling ball, at almost full term. But I think (and it's been over 20 years and I may not remember accurately) it was on both sides back then. Maybe something's just weak, as you say. I'll try the modified version when I am stretching out tonight (assuming anything will stretch - still ouchies) and see how it flies. I tend to be kind of hypersensitive to pain, so I try to ignore things unless they are truly interfering with me. This only hurts if I try to do a sit-up. Didn't bother me while I was doing my lift, carry, twist, and lower of all those cases of cat food. Thanks for the advice - I'll let ya know how it goes.

Last edited by Nan on 23 Jul 2007, 3:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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I took a lot of anatomy courses while an undergrad (took a lot of the graduate level comparative anatomy classes at that time, so was able to dissect cats, dogs, cows, a horse, a raccoon, bats, a bear, participated in the dissection of a lion and an elephant. Worked in the anatomy department of the medical school while in pharmacy school, and worked on over 35 cadavers. Participated in many autopsies. Eventually the department allowed me to teach anatomy to the med students. They encouraged me to get my PhD in anatomy. Should have done it. Have about 40 books. Plus my massage therapy books, and personal trainer books. Most of it memorized. I'm sure you taught your daughter well without me! I know you're one smart cookie!



Because you can pinpoint the exact location, the area is near the surface (not deep - this area overlies the appendix and start of the large intestine). It is "felt" by the ilioinguinal nerve, and the genital branch of the genitofemoral nerve in the inguinal canal. Because it hasn't healed in all this time, it's not likely to be a muscle, which would have repaired itself by now. More likely it is a slight tear in one of the connective tissue membranes, probably the aponeurosis of the external oblique (especially if you only feel it when you tense the stomach muscles. If you actually did feel it on both sides, it may indicate a stretching of the round ligament, which holds the uterus in place on both sides, and your pregnancy would have affected the round ligament on both sides (but a flexing of the stomach muscles would not make the round ligament move, and thereby cause a pain signal. So I'm thinking probably not the round ligament). Figures A,B,C, and D are a dissection of the area of your injury, "A" being near the surface, and then progressively deeper. If it is a connective tissue tear (a slight "unzipping", which could have occurred as a result of your pregnancy, and labor) it could enlarge, but most likely won't, so just watch the area for a slight bulge. If after a month it goes away, it is only a weak area that is now stronger.
As you said: lifting all those cans didn't make it worse, so sit-ups shouldn't either.





Good luck!
Chuck

You probably should have, you seem to really be into it. I got nauseous every time we had dissections in biology class, and threw up all over the teacher's desk the day I opened the classroom fridge and found a fetal pig splayed open and pinned down in a pan in it. Saw it, turned around, and let my teacher have my lunch back. (He was less than thrilled.) Have studiously avoided anything remotely resembling an anatomy class since then.

But thanks for the guesses about what it could be that hurts. I'll be careful with it - the last thing I need, with everything going on, is to have to have any sort of medical intervention for me!

Wouldn't laugh at you, crazy girl!

The only reason I recommended you do those, is because you said you were doing the "pull down thingy", and I want you to balance the exercises you do on both sides of the shoulder to prevent an injury. The pull down machine will strengthen the back of the shoulder, but not the front of it, which will cause an imbalance. But you chose wisely - most people work the front and not the back, and the back side actually needs more work, as those muscles are weaker.

Yay, Nan!! !

So, let's start off slow: standing up, lean against a wall with hands placed as if you were doing a push-up on the floor, so that you feel some resistance, but not too much. Nice and easy, without strain.

Do one set of 3 to 10 reps with elbows out. (In this position, the chest muscles ("pecs") do most of the work.)

rest and shake your arms.

Do one set of 3 to 10 reps with elbows near your sides. (In this position, the back of the arms ("triceps" of "tris") do most of the work).

Do one set of each on the days that you do your "pull down" work.

When it is easy, do two sets of each, then three sets of each.
When three sets are easy, do one set of each, now leaning against a fairly high counter. Progressively work your way through three sets again, then start over with one set leaning against a table that is lower than the counter you were using. Then a chair. Eventually, you'll be doing a push-up on the floor!! !

As you progress towards the floor, lower the number of reps. If the front of the shoulder gets sore, skip the push-ups that day, and wait until it isn't sore, then start over doing less than whatever you just did that made it sore, until it becomes easy, and you can proceed pain free.

After doing the work, gently shake out the wrists, the elbows and the shoulders, and give them all a gentle massage, to bring in blood and nutrients.

As you get older, reverse the process: work your way from the floor, to a chair, to a table, to a counter, then upright against a wall (to prevent injury).

Good luck!
Chuck

Oops! Sorry Nan! Are these too graphic for you?
I can edit them out if you prefer!

yikes!
WTF did I stumble into ?
I just wanted to get pumped to do 15 minutes of stationary bike riding every morning.

Merle