Cats in Western Society
My dogs ran off a whole bear family out of the yard.Without their brave actions my pears would have been eaten.One bit the papa bear right on the butt.
On the negative side ,sometimes they roll in some nasty stuff.Really nasty stuff. Sometimes they carry home some really gross items.
Cats are definitely cleaner and they purr.
The best sound to go to sleep to ever.
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My family seems to have always had the worst luck with dogs. When I was younger we got a dog that suddenly turned on my mother for no obvious reason, and my dad had to take him out in the woods and shoot him.
Later, we got another dog that killed one of my pet guinea pigs (I was sure I had the shut door to my bedroom where I kept them, maybe she figured out how to open it?) and then bit one of the neighborhood kids, and we had to get rid of her.
People who think dogs can never be dangerous and "oh my sweet little fur baby would never hurt anyone" are living in a dream world. I also wonder how Christian dog people feel about the negativity about dogs in the Bible, since it was written during a time and place when people thought dogs were very unclean.
Since I can't answer that I'll just toss in a photo of my dreaming cat.
His whiskers were really twitching for a while.
He's now rolled over on his other side.
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Our family had a couple great dogs when I was a child & I don't recall ever much pondering that negativity.
But then I did understand certain problem with dogs; though we didn't live in farm country since Dad was in the Navy, he and Mom were both farm kids, and I was aware that the following sometimes happened,
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia ... 11-12.html
The livestock owners may legally kill the marauding dogs, and they won't be liable if the dog owners sue them.
Dog owners are financially responsible for the damage their dogs cause.
Killing Predator Dogs
Many U.S. states have laws—which may go back over a hundred years—allowing farmers, ranchers, and others to kill dogs that are chasing, harassing, or attacking their livestock. Even without these statutes, however, it's long been a common-law rule that people may kill dogs when it's necessary to protect their property, including livestock. (See, for instance, Brauer v. English, 21 Mo. App. 490 (1886).)
A farmer or rancher usually doesn't have to wait until a dog has sunk its teeth into a calf or lamb. Most laws allow killing a dog that is chasing, "worrying," or preparing to attack livestock. However, simply running through a field where there are cows or sheep is probably not enough (see Trautman v. Day, 273 N.W.2d 712 (N.D. 1979)). Landowners usually don't have the right to kill dogs just for trespassing.
A thing I do know is attitudes in the Middle East region remain similar and yet are changing.
For instance, from Iran last year, https://www.iranintl.com/en/20211121244024
New Bill Aims To Ban Dogs As Pets In Homes And Streets In Iran
11/21/2021
Author: Maryam Sinaee
(text links to https://www.saudiembassy.net/bringing-pets-saudi-arabia)
Cats have never been a problem and have always been a part of urban and rural life, but the Islamic Republic wants to ban keeping dogs at urban homes. ...
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Though this thread is about cats in western society the thing about dogs in middle eastern society has my attention at the moment & since middle eastern society came before western society, maybe there is a common human factor at the root of both things.
Went looking for references and found:
Shadia: Loving dogs at a distance
By Mona Shadia
July 11, 2012 4:51 PM PT
https://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pil ... story.html
And there are probably few things funnier — or more perplexing — than seeing a full-grown Muslim run, or get visibly uncomfortable, when a dog rushes toward him.
I was that way for a while, and I’ll get back to you on why.
But generally, there’s a sense out there that Muslims or Islam have a bone to pick with dogs.
As usual, it’s more complicated than that. It’s quite the opposite, actually. Dogs are mentioned in a positive light in Islam.
and
Judaism and Dogs
Today domesticated canines are beloved pets, but traditional Jewish texts were uneasy about these creatures.
By My Jewish Learning
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/judaism-dogs/
The negative attitude toward dogs persists in the Talmud, which frequently regards dogs as dangerous animals. Though the Talmud in Baba Kama states that it is permissible to keep certain kinds of dogs that are useful for preventing infestations of vermin, it also states that dogs must be kept chained and that those who “raise” (the Hebrew word used here is the same as the one used for rearing children) dogs are cursed. ...
In the Jewish mystical tradition, dogs are symbols of the demonic. The Zohar, the core text of Jewish mysticism, says that evil in the world is like a vicious dog on a long leash.
... Most contemporary Jewish authorities maintain that there are no prohibitions on keeping dogs provided they pose no threat to people or property.
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Dogs and cats all have different personalities just like we do.
I've mostly been a dog person and I had a little Miniature Pinscher of my own for twelve and a half years. He was unique!
Some cats can be very affectionate too. I've house sat on several occasions for a family with an assortment of pets and their ginger cat Garfield comes to sleep on the bed when he wishes to. On the second but last occasion, he came to the patio where I was sitting on a chair, and climbed onto my lap and stayed there for more than an hour.
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Now, back to cats in western society,
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Nowadays, of course, cats are superstars: the protagonists of comic strips and television shows. By the mid-90s, cat services and products had become a billion-dollar industry. And yet, even in our popular culture, a bit of the age-old ambivalence remains. The cat doesn't seem to be able to entirely shake its association with evil: After all, how often do you see a movie's maniacal arch-villain, as he lounges in a comfy chair and plots the world's destruction, stroke the head of a Golden Retriever?
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Gee, where else in life have we seen That cause problems?
The Cat in Medieval Western Europe
February 06, 2020
https://leidenartsinsocietyblog.nl/arti ... ern-europe
Unfortunately, these portrayals were not necessarily positive. One of the ways people define their identity is by comparing themselves to everything they are not. The combination of several conflicts in the Middle Ages yielded an environment where people needed scapegoats to preserve some sense of social order. Animals, and in this case the cat, became a screen on which medieval people projected their fears and emotions. It is curious that those people who were often in the presence of animals are the exact same people who employed animals as scapegoats. ...
I look at all that "meaning" people dumped on cats and have to say, Huh? What alternate reality did you people drag THAT in from?
Assuming the vast majority of the population was neurotypicals, and they were the ones who created all those different beliefs about cats, what's the deal with neurotypicals, they do some really, really, absurd and bizarre stuff.
A cat is a cat.
And that is that.
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I'm from the deep south & it's very common for people to have dogs as pets for things like hunting & protection & dogs can also be confined to a yard instead of going all over the neighborhood if they are outside. Lots of people have cats as well but the cats are either forced to be house cats & stay inside or the cats wonder all over the neighborhood digging up gardens & scratching cars by climbing on them which is one reason some people hate cats. However apartments are much more likely to allow cats for pets than dogs unless the dog is a service dog which I find very odd because a cat can be just as destructive inside as a dog is. Dogs do not scratch the doors & baseboards & stair railings.
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https://www.4feldco.com/articles/remove-dog-scratches/
If you’re like most Americans that have a loveable Fido or Baxter who gets let out into the backyard, chances are there are parts of your home that can testify to your canine love.
Now, for those who don’t have doggy doors (you know, those square cutouts that allow small critters to just run in and out of the home at will), you’ll probably find that your dog starts clawing on the door every time he or she wants to come back in. Over time, your door will have a bunch of scratches and claw marks.
https://ask.metafilter.com/305958/Im-so ... -apartment
So for the first few days that I lived in the apartment, I had to lock her up in different rooms of the house to try to keep her from damaging the entire place. Unsurprisingly, there are now three doors in the apartment that have significant scratches. On one door it's not super noticeable, on the second the scratches are definitely noticeable and deep. The third door is actually a set of French doors that may be original to the home, and the scratches are extremely deep and the dog even chewed at some extra wood that frames the door.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dogs/comments/ ... nd_i_dont/
https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeImprovemen ... _a_rental/
Here’s the damage: https://imgur.com/a/Cr7mWrO
I looked up the wall part and it seems like I need joint compound and a scraper and to just add mud, dry, repeat, then blend into the wall with a wet rag.
But the baseboard, I don’t know. I saw a recommendation to get wood filler but it doesn’t look like wood, it looks like cardboard. Plus there’s the moulding on it... what do I do? I want to make it look good enough to be minimally noticeable but also not go as far as ripping out and replacing the whole baseboard.
For the record, the dog never destroyed anything other than her toys until today. We just moved in, I have no idea what came over her.
https://www.hunker.com/13415108/how-to- ... d-by-a-dog
Aesthetically appealing banisters are essential to clean and comfortable homes. Banisters are often one of the first objects a guest will see when entering your home. Fixing a wood banister chewed by a dog rids the railing of unsightly marks and prevents injury to people or animals that may bump into or grab the object in disrepair. Applying wood putty to fill in the chew marks is a cost saving technique, in lieu of replacing the banister outright.
https://www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/co ... ex_and_my/
https://www.quora.com/My-dog-destroyed- ... posit-back
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Originally Answered: My dog destroyed our floor. It appears to be a peel and stick “hardwood” floor. How would we fix it ourselves? We live in an apartment and want to get our security deposit back.
I congratulate you on taking responsibility. One thing you might want to consider is whether you are pretty confident that a new floor won’t also be destroyed by your dog. If not, and it’s something you can live with, you might want to hold off replacing it until later.
I’m no flooring expert, but peel and stick sounds like a fairly inexpensive type of flooring. When you finally do deal with it, you might want to get a bid from a flooring company for replacement with similar materials. You can present this to the owner to avoid any possibility of getting charged for a replacement that is actual
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https://www.4feldco.com/articles/remove-dog-scratches/
If you’re like most Americans that have a loveable Fido or Baxter who gets let out into the backyard, chances are there are parts of your home that can testify to your canine love.
Now, for those who don’t have doggy doors (you know, those square cutouts that allow small critters to just run in and out of the home at will), you’ll probably find that your dog starts clawing on the door every time he or she wants to come back in. Over time, your door will have a bunch of scratches and claw marks.
https://ask.metafilter.com/305958/Im-so ... -apartment
So for the first few days that I lived in the apartment, I had to lock her up in different rooms of the house to try to keep her from damaging the entire place. Unsurprisingly, there are now three doors in the apartment that have significant scratches. On one door it's not super noticeable, on the second the scratches are definitely noticeable and deep. The third door is actually a set of French doors that may be original to the home, and the scratches are extremely deep and the dog even chewed at some extra wood that frames the door.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dogs/comments/ ... nd_i_dont/
https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeImprovemen ... _a_rental/
Here’s the damage: https://imgur.com/a/Cr7mWrO
I looked up the wall part and it seems like I need joint compound and a scraper and to just add mud, dry, repeat, then blend into the wall with a wet rag.
But the baseboard, I don’t know. I saw a recommendation to get wood filler but it doesn’t look like wood, it looks like cardboard. Plus there’s the moulding on it... what do I do? I want to make it look good enough to be minimally noticeable but also not go as far as ripping out and replacing the whole baseboard.
For the record, the dog never destroyed anything other than her toys until today. We just moved in, I have no idea what came over her.
https://www.hunker.com/13415108/how-to- ... d-by-a-dog
Aesthetically appealing banisters are essential to clean and comfortable homes. Banisters are often one of the first objects a guest will see when entering your home. Fixing a wood banister chewed by a dog rids the railing of unsightly marks and prevents injury to people or animals that may bump into or grab the object in disrepair. Applying wood putty to fill in the chew marks is a cost saving technique, in lieu of replacing the banister outright.
https://www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/co ... ex_and_my/
https://www.quora.com/My-dog-destroyed- ... posit-back
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Stan Frymann
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Answered 1 year ago · Author has 2.1K answers and 2.4M answer views
Originally Answered: My dog destroyed our floor. It appears to be a peel and stick “hardwood” floor. How would we fix it ourselves? We live in an apartment and want to get our security deposit back.
I congratulate you on taking responsibility. One thing you might want to consider is whether you are pretty confident that a new floor won’t also be destroyed by your dog. If not, and it’s something you can live with, you might want to hold off replacing it until later.
I’m no flooring expert, but peel and stick sounds like a fairly inexpensive type of flooring. When you finally do deal with it, you might want to get a bid from a flooring company for replacement with similar materials. You can present this to the owner to avoid any possibility of getting charged for a replacement that is actual
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I think cats became revered in Asia because of their rodent killing abilities.Anywhere grains are grown in large amounts like rice there will be rats.
So I can understand why cats would be considered lucky.
Dogs in a hot dry climate like the Middle East would often have mange, fleas , stink ,and possibly be rabid.A cat would be cleaner and not menacing.A feral dog pack would be a threat to livestock and people.I can see how they would be considered unclean.
In Europe where it’s colder dogs would have been useful to keep warm ,to help hunt and for protection against large predators.
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In the past, in China, the love of pet cats and pet dogs was evenly matched.
But now it's an all-out victory for cats.
Because most people live in buildings. We have higher population density and shorter leisure time. Walking the dog is quite a hassle. So dogs are no longer considered a proper pet.
Differences in Eastern and Western lifestyles are one explanation for this problem.
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You might expect to be able to crush them in your hand, into wolf-bone fragments.
Today domesticated canines are beloved pets, but traditional Jewish texts were uneasy about these creatures.
By My Jewish Learning
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/judaism-dogs/
The negative attitude toward dogs persists in the Talmud, which frequently regards dogs as dangerous animals. Though the Talmud in Baba Kama states that it is permissible to keep certain kinds of dogs that are useful for preventing infestations of vermin, it also states that dogs must be kept chained and that those who “raise” (the Hebrew word used here is the same as the one used for rearing children) dogs are cursed. ...
In the Jewish mystical tradition, dogs are symbols of the demonic. The Zohar, the core text of Jewish mysticism, says that evil in the world is like a vicious dog on a long leash.
... Most contemporary Jewish authorities maintain that there are no prohibitions on keeping dogs provided they pose no threat to people or property.
Almost half a century ago, I spent a month on a "kibbutz" in Israel. They had lots of dogs there.
I used to be afraid of dogs. I'm not so afraid any longer. But I still don't like stray dogs at all.
When I went to Greece, there was an incredible amount of stray dogs in the street. When one goes to the park where the Acropolis is, one sees gangs of stray dogs.
I don't feel threatened by stray cats at all. Because I know, pretty much, that they won't attack me for no reason.
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