Feeling deep shame about embarrassing things I’ve done.

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29 Jan 2022, 10:25 pm

I only found 2 ways to reduce the embarrassing things I tend to do - one is to keep trying to improve my skill at the art of social grace and discretion, the other is to become a more inhibited person, thinking carefully before saying or doing anything with others and erring on the side of inaction when in doubt. The former is hard but good when it's successful, the latter is easy but not so good, and it does nothing to fix the problem of failing to do things that were expected of me. With a combination of both methods I've certainly improved, though when I look back at the way I used to behave when I was younger, I'm tempted to think any change would have been an improvement. But then, young people are often pretty embarrassed when they remember what they used to be like.



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31 Jan 2022, 3:59 pm

I could write a book about this ! Oversharing is my speciality! I feel your pain and there are times I could cut my tongue out...but other times when I have have a good giggle at myself after I've calmed down.

It's not a deliberate gaff on your part so don't fret too much . :D



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02 Feb 2022, 4:33 pm

Lizzie1260 wrote:
I could write a book about this ! Oversharing is my speciality! I feel your pain and there are times I could cut my tongue out...but other times when I have have a good giggle at myself after I've calmed down.

It's not a deliberate gaff on your part so don't fret too much . :D


I’ve caught myself oversharing (or doing something similar) when I post questions and comments on Reddit and other sites — I tend to get too wordy and give details that aren’t needed.
I catch myself and then edit my content.



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02 Feb 2022, 4:51 pm

I still do embarrassing things----and I feel no shame :P

I guess I'm pretty cuckoo :jester:



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03 Feb 2022, 1:23 am

GamerGirl88 wrote:
I’ve caught myself oversharing (or doing something similar) when I post questions and comments on Reddit and other sites — I tend to get too wordy and give details that aren’t needed.
I catch myself and then edit my content.

Hopefully you use a pseudonym on Reddit, and try to leave out identifying info on anything you do share. That helps to solve the "oversharing" problem.

As for Facebook, which has a "real names only" policy, I would suggest avoiding it completely, except perhaps to share photos with a handful of family members and CLOSE friends. I would suggest making your Facebook account, if any, as private as possible.


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03 Feb 2022, 12:10 pm

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I know that everyone, regardless of whether they’re neurodivergent or typical, has done embarrassing things and probably will embarrass themselves again in the future, but it’s much worse and more frequent with me, IMO.

The things I’ve done I don’t feel are normal embarrassing things. I realized I embarrassed myself again in public on Wednesday and it put me in a foul mood the rest of the day.

I did a family member a favor by heading to a local business to get some documents faxed for them. I admitted to the clerk that I have never faxed anything before, which is not normal for a 33-year-old.

I overshared by telling the clerk that the family member wants their documents (2 total) faxed twice for reassurance because the recipient can be incompetent but then *I* was the one who looked incompetent a bit later when two different employees had to explain to me why the receipt shows 3 pages faxed instead of 4.
I never want to set foot in there again. A simple concept and I botched it.

I still remember accidentally starting fights in high school by running my mouth. I remember upsetting a boy I liked by staring at him, which led to him bullying me.


I remember acting awkward and desperate with men I pined for and look back at all of it and metaphorically hang my head in shame at how immature, unintelligent, foolish, et cetera, I acted — and I was well past the age where we’re supposed to know and do better and most people do.

I feel like I’m not good enough to get the men I desire (I’m realistic about who I can and cannot attract) and will forever be alone or have to settle.

I often wish I could have a restart of life but knowing what I do now.

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05 Mar 2022, 7:14 pm

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I only found 2 ways to reduce the embarrassing things I tend to do - one is to keep trying to improve my skill at the art of social grace and discretion, the other is to become a more inhibited person, thinking carefully before saying or doing anything with others and erring on the side of inaction when in doubt. The former is hard but good when it's successful, the latter is easy but not so good, and it does nothing to fix the problem of failing to do things that were expected of me. With a combination of both methods I've certainly improved, though when I look back at the way I used to behave when I was younger, I'm tempted to think any change would have been an improvement. But then, young people are often pretty embarrassed when they remember what they used to be like.


Seems to me that the third strategy is "Care less." I mostly get trapped in strategy 2. Which I kick myself for, but it has to be said that it was a vital survival strategy growing up.

The ideal would be to switch between the three - self-improvement, inhibition, not giving a crap - as the situation demands. I'm a LONG way off that.


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06 Mar 2022, 8:59 am

GamerGirl88 wrote:
I know that everyone, regardless of whether they’re neurodivergent or typical, has done embarrassing things and probably will embarrass themselves again in the future, but it’s much worse and more frequent with me, IMO.


May I offer the following (from The Seth Materials): "You create your own reality." That sounds patronizing and obtuse, I know. But think about it.

We've all had that one co-worker, friend, or family member who complains about everything, about how things always go wrong, the prevalence of Murphy's Law, and so on. And if you observe them, you find that they're largely correct. Why? It really is that simple: they created that reality for themselves.

Your story doesn't seem to reveal anything more (or less) embarrassing than anything I've experienced, and that probably goes the same for everyone. That's not to discount your feelings, of course; you're entitled to feel how you feel, and your feelings are perfectly valid.

I'm an expert over-thinker, and I tend to be very critical of myself in much the same way. But I have developed a habit of assuring myself that most people will think nothing of our gaffs, and if they do, it's short-lived.

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I remember acting awkward and desperate with men I pined for and look back at all of it and metaphorically hang my head in shame at how immature, unintelligent, foolish, et cetera, I acted — and I was well past the age where we’re supposed to know and do better and most people do.

I feel like I’m not good enough to get the men I desire (I’m realistic about who I can and cannot attract) and will forever be alone or have to settle.


We are all put on this planet, even if it's not the right one, with a birthright of unconditional love and oneness. You are not a mistake, and you have value. There are already plenty of people who are ugly to each other without you having to do it to yourself. If you want others to love you the way you deserve, you've got to love yourself first.

Instead of regarding yourself as foolish or immature or unintelligent, think about yourself as being unique, quirky, and "feature packed!" The right person for you is looking for exactly those things!

Teach yourself to change the way you think about yourself, and you will permanently change your reality for the better.


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06 Mar 2022, 10:19 pm

I understand. Sometimes I feel positively ridiculous because I know I struggle with things that others my age (and much younger) do not to the point of embarrassment.

Heck last time I tried to order drive through at McDonalds I messed it up and ended up actually crying in frustrated upset because I just was angry I messed up something so simple millions do easily every day. I don't drive often (or order often) and I though to myself "what the heck I can do this people do it all the time!" Lol wrong! Ah well, yeah being ND makes things harder than it can be for others. It isn't your fault though, and you keep trying to learn. Heck I've never faxed anything in my life, wouldn't even know how to and I'm older than you are.



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07 Mar 2022, 9:56 am

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I overshared by telling the clerk that the family member wants their documents (2 total) faxed twice for reassurance because the recipient can be incompetent but then *I* was the one who looked incompetent a bit later when two different employees had to explain to me why the receipt shows 3 pages faxed instead of 4.
I never want to set foot in there again. A simple concept and I botched it.


I read your links.

One of the lessons I learned in life was that when you ask an interesting question, absorb the answers. Around half of the people will try and give you the answer if they can. The other half will ask questions with no intention of answering your question. So in general, the more people you ask, the higher probability that you will get at least one good answer.

Asking questions is NOT A BAD THING. That is the best way I have found to learn information. It doesn't mean you are STUPID. It means that you are SMART. It gives you the ability to LEARN.

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I am still a little confused why the receipt shows 3 pages faxed instead of 4.
Was one of the pages two sided and the other only one sided?


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07 Mar 2022, 3:54 pm

Yes, I feel like that sometimes.

And it can go way back to when I was a kid.



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08 Mar 2022, 8:07 am

I often feel intense shame when I feel like I've said the wrong things which may lead to emotional upset for others, and also anything that can make me appear a burden to others and needy. The ASD compounds it all due to not being the most tactful person out there, along with kinda having a rough life where I sometimes need to talk about things.



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23 Jun 2024, 9:04 am

Been having trouble this lately, I get a lot of intense flashbacks about dumb things I did/said/ and the way I acted. I'm 44 and some of the stuff happened still feels as intense as it did 10-15, even 25 years ago. Which is probably why I can be a bit paranoid and worry that I'm going to say something stupid or do something " wrong" in public.

At work I have done better at "behaving myself" so to speak but sometimes things go wrong, and I know some of my co-workers talk and gossip about me.

When I have to go visit extended family for a holiday or something, I usually need a day or 2 to prepare myself. Meaning making sure to remind myself not to say or do anything to piss anyone off, be aware of my surroundings as so I don't knock anything over or break anything, and gauge when it's appropriate to leave.


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23 Jun 2024, 10:25 am

You're not alone in that King Kat 1. I'm about the same age as you and I still dwell on things I said and did as a teenager. I can make myself blush with shame if I really think about them.

It was mainly being rude when I thought I was being funny that got me into trouble. I'd upset people that I liked and wouldn't dream of hurting.

I don't know how universal the experience of hanging on to past shame is.

If it's worse for people with ASD i would theorise it's because we work so hard to fit in and mask our social ineptitude that when we get it wrong it's a bigger deal. Higher stakes.


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24 Jun 2024, 6:39 am

no shame, no blame. We learn as we go along in life and not a single person lives who does not make mistakes. Its part of being human. I learned my best lessons by learning "what not to do" so even failures can teach me better ways to make something work. cheering you on, welcome to being human like the rest of us. Its OK to make mistakes.
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24 Jun 2024, 6:58 am

I remember watching a YouTube video once that put in perspective feelings of embarrassment or shame.

Basically the narrative was in x years you’ll be gone and so will everyone around you.

All memories of your deeds and who you were and what you did will also be gone.

Future generations will not care or be in the least bit interested.

In x years the sun will explode taking the earth and all evidence of human life with it

So why should you care :D


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