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21 Mar 2022, 11:49 am

There trying to clone the wooly mammoth as well



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21 Mar 2022, 12:01 pm

Jamesy wrote:
There trying to clone the wooly mammoth as well


Indeed, but no one's hoping to clone a specific individual mammoth in hopes it will develop into the exact same individual a second time.

There's no point to cloning Diana or any other dead celebrity because you'll just end up with their much younger twin and if forcing that person to develop along the same lines as the original would probably qualify as child abuse.


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21 Mar 2022, 2:35 pm

Fnord wrote:
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Cloning Diana would be a waste of time, money, resources, and effort.

She had no special talent that would have benefitted all humankind.

Better to clone Einstein, Schweitzer, or some other genius.

Then give them the best educations possible.
Well she tried to stop landmines in Africa.
Talking about stopping the use of landmines and actually stopping the use of landmines are two different things.

How many landmines did she actually stop?  None.

All sentimentality aside, it would be better to clone someone who possessed higher intelligence.
At least she tried. She would be hell of aLOT better than some of the politicians we have here in the US. Half of our leaders are majorly pushing for war instead of trying to find diplomatic solutions & they don't give one flying f#ck about the collateral damage done to the innocent civilians nor the many soldiers here & there who will be killed or have serious life long disabilities as a result. I'd much rather have a moron in charge who has a good heart & cares instead of having leaders who are hateful & don't care about anyone else but themselves weather their morons or geniuses.


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21 Mar 2022, 3:04 pm

nick007 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Cloning Diana would be a waste of time, money, resources, and effort.

She had no special talent that would have benefitted all humankind.

Better to clone Einstein, Schweitzer, or some other genius.

Then give them the best educations possible.
Well she tried to stop landmines in Africa.
Talking about stopping the use of landmines and actually stopping the use of landmines are two different things.

How many landmines did she actually stop?  None.

All sentimentality aside, it would be better to clone someone who possessed higher intelligence.
At least she tried. She would be hell of aLOT better than some of the politicians we have here in the US. Half of our leaders are majorly pushing for war instead of trying to find diplomatic solutions & they don't give one flying f#ck about the collateral damage done to the innocent civilians nor the many soldiers here & there who will be killed or have serious life long disabilities as a result. I'd much rather have a moron in charge who has a good heart & cares instead of having leaders who are hateful & don't care about anyone else but themselves weather their morons or geniuses.
Yes . . . let us derail yet another thread into an unrelated and impotent rant against politics.

:roll: No, let us not, and just say we did.



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21 Mar 2022, 3:29 pm

speaking of impotent..


Fnord wrote:


How many landmines did she actually stop?  None.


source?

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With the financial support of international donors and the Angolan government, the HALO Trust alone has cleared about 100,000 landmines in the country, and 297 minefields across Huambo province — only one minefield away from the province being declared mine-free. On Friday, Harry detonated a landmine in southern Angola and walked across a minefield in Dirico province, echoing Diana’s 1997 walk in Huambo. However, the minefield area that his mother visited is now home to communities, schools and businesses. “It’s been totally transformed and is unrecognizable today from when she visited in 1997,” says program manager Legg.

https://time.com/5682006/princess-diana-landmines/

on the other hand...


https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads ... quality,85Image



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21 Mar 2022, 3:34 pm

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With the financial support of international donors and the Angolan government, the HALO Trust alone has cleared about 100,000 landmines in the country, and 297 minefields across Huambo province — only one minefield away from the province being declared mine-free . . .
In your desperation to find means to attack me, you have ignored one obvious fact: The Halo Trust cleared those landmines, not Diana.  She, like every other "leader", only advocated for action to be taken, but did not take part in any of the dirty and dangerous action herself.

Again, cloning Diana would be a waste of time, money, resources, and effort.



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21 Mar 2022, 3:37 pm

I think the idea is to clone extinct animals (which is theoretically feasible). Top contender at the moment is the woolly mammoth which the embryo can be inserted in a female African elephant.

But if we clone humans then I can think of other females whom would be great to make "take home" clones



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21 Mar 2022, 3:44 pm

cyberdad wrote:
I think the idea is to clone extinct animals (which is theoretically feasible). Top contender at the moment is the woolly mammoth which the embryo can be inserted in a female African elephant.
Or any other recently-extinct species.
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But if we clone humans then I can think of other females whom would be great to make "take home" clones
Marie Curie (intelligence) or Marilyn Monroe (sex appeal)?



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21 Mar 2022, 3:46 pm

^In a broad sense, they sort of tried that in the movie "Weird Science."



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21 Mar 2022, 3:47 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
^In a broad sense, they sort of tried that in the movie "Weird Science."
Pun noted.



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21 Mar 2022, 3:52 pm

Fnord wrote:
In your desperation to find means to attack me, you have ignored one obvious fact: The Halo Trust cleared those landmines, not Diana.  She, like every other "leader", only advocated for action to be taken, but did not take part in any of the dirty and dangerous action herself.


desperation to attack, lol are you challenging me for drama queen? :mrgreen:

from halo trusts page:

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The landmine issue shot to international prominence in 1997 when Princess Diana walked through one of HALO’s minefields in Angola. Shortly after her visit, the Ottawa Mine Ban Treaty was signed, calling for all countries to unite to rid the world of landmines.

https://www.halotrust.org/about-us/who- ... r-history/

btw yes the evidence of her role in this is vague, and the treaty did not get far.., but you are the one acting as if there is proof she did nothing. Do you have a source?



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21 Mar 2022, 3:57 pm

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yes the evidence of her role in this is vague, but you are the one acting as if there is proof she did nothing. Do you have a source?
It is a well-known fact that one cannot prove a negative assertion; however, I hold up the lack of evidence supporting any claim she did more than walk a cleared path through a minefield as default evidence she did none of the dirty and dangerous work of actually removing even one single mine.

Face it: Her sole purpose in this endeavor was in providing a celebrity face to a social cause -- nothing more.



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21 Mar 2022, 4:25 pm

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21 Mar 2022, 4:38 pm

The_Znof wrote:
https://yourstory.com/herstory/2019/08/princess-diana-humanitarian-crusader-royal/amp
:roll:

"She passionately fought for the ban of landmines" -- Again, there is no evidence to support the idea she was more than the celebrity face of the anti-landmine movement.

"She worked ardently for HIV/AIDS awareness" -- A celebrity face to the HIV/AIDS Awareness movement.

"She helped the young and homeless" -- A celebrity face, et cetera.  I have dished up food for the homeless at a local shelter, AND I have even taken in people who would otherwise have been homeless, AND have given those people enough of a boost for them to lead healthy, self-sufficient lives.

"She advocated for awareness of leprosy" -- A celebrity face, et cetera.

"She was not afraid to speak her mind or break protocol" -- Irrelevant, as anyone can speak their mind and/or break protocol.

Face it, while Diana was a popular celebrity whose image became attached to several worthy causes, she never actually DID anything to help others (except her children).  She was likely just a face and a name to the people running those causes, and completely unworthy of being "resurrected" as a clone.



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21 Mar 2022, 4:42 pm

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"She helped the young and homeless" -- A celebrity face, et cetera.  I have dished up food for the homeless at a local shelter, AND I have even taken in people who would otherwise have been homeless, AND have given those people enough of a boost for them to lead healthy, self-sufficient lives.



Last time you mentioned this you said [or at least strongly implied] they all robbed you., which is it?



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21 Mar 2022, 4:43 pm

The_Znof wrote:
Fnord wrote:
"She helped the young and homeless" -- A celebrity face, et cetera.  I have dished up food for the homeless at a local shelter, AND I have even taken in people who would otherwise have been homeless, AND have given those people enough of a boost for them to lead healthy, self-sufficient lives.
Last time you mentioned this you said they all robbed you., which is it?
Link, please?