Update list of "Diagnosis" choices to include ND etc.
* Have autism - Diagnosed
* Have autism - Undiagnosed
* Not sure if I have it or not
* Family member with autism
* Autism spectrum
* Neurodivergent
* Neurotypical
Neurodiversity also includes ADHD, Hyperlexia, FAS, Tourette's, and other neurodevelopmental conditions.
Is that what you're suggesting with the word Neurodivergent, or are you using it as a synonym for Autism?
From your list I wouldn't know which ones to choose.
Have Autism - Diagnosed ✅ (Level 2)
Family Member with Autism ✅
Autism Spectrum ✅
Neurodivergent ✅ (ASD, ADHD, Synaesthesia, Hyperlexia)
Are you suggesting people should get more than one choice?
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i was about 12 when i was diagnosed with autism even tho i was non verbal up until i was 8 but it was the 70s and my parents were also in denial
This thread made me do a search on how many people on this forum have Aspergers but I couldn't find the answer I was looking for, but I did find this thread from 2013 and I'm a little confused now as you posted in that thread that you are self-diagnosed.
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i was about 12 when i was diagnosed with autism even tho i was non verbal up until i was 8 but it was the 70s and my parents were also in denial
This thread made me do a search on how many people on this forum have Aspergers but I couldn't find the answer I was looking for, but I did find this thread from 2013 and I'm a little confused now as you posted in that thread that you are self-diagnosed.
i didnt know if i was officially diagnosed or not until i found out by my doctor that autism was on my medical records
i always knew i was autistic since i was a teenager but didnt know i had a official diagnosis
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Have diagnosis of autism.
Have a neurotypical son.
i was about 12 when i was diagnosed with autism even tho i was non verbal up until i was 8 but it was the 70s and my parents were also in denial
This thread made me do a search on how many people on this forum have Aspergers but I couldn't find the answer I was looking for, but I did find this thread from 2013 and I'm a little confused now as you posted in that thread that you are self-diagnosed.
i didnt know if i was officially diagnosed or not until i found out by my doctor that autism was on my medical records
i always knew i was autistic since i was a teenager but didnt know i had a official diagnosis
I was just reading up on childhood diagnosis vs. adult as well. ^
I saw a thread where you said you were diagnosed at age 4.
Was it 4 or 12, or self-diagnosed?
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=398891&start=16#p8832663
Did they determine you were "Moderate" back in the 1970s?
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i was about 12 when i was diagnosed with autism even tho i was non verbal up until i was 8 but it was the 70s and my parents were also in denial
This thread made me do a search on how many people on this forum have Aspergers but I couldn't find the answer I was looking for, but I did find this thread from 2013 and I'm a little confused now as you posted in that thread that you are self-diagnosed.
i didnt know if i was officially diagnosed or not until i found out by my doctor that autism was on my medical records
i always knew i was autistic since i was a teenager but didnt know i had a official diagnosis
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my parents recognised something was wrong at 4 because i wasnt talking
i dont remember its all confusing even for me
i didnt have a very close relationship with my family..apart from my dad when i was grown up but we didnt really talk about autism then
then he sadly passed away from cancer
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Have diagnosis of autism.
Have a neurotypical son.
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I've been searching your post history and can see that. After thinking about it, I would feel that my parents gaslit me if they withheld a diagnosis. If I had been diagnosed as a child, my life may have turned out more positively.
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With reference to the link you'd posted earlier, of a similar request, I'd compiled the following list at that time.
It's probably not complete, and my apologies for not naming the source of some quotes from that thread.
I don't feel inclined to cross-reference with this newer thread - the reason will doubtless become clear as the list is viewed and the scale of the request understood.
![Wink :wink:](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
See: viewtopic.php?t=393666
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- Autistic (diagnosed)
- Autistic (undiagnosed or self-diagnosed)
- Other neurodivergent
- Not sure if autistic or not
- Neurotypical
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- Have Asperger's (diagnosed)
- Have autism (diagnosed)
- Self-diagnosed ASD
- Suspect I have an ASD
- Have some other neurological disorder/disability
- Neurotypical (no neurological disorders/disabilities)
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ASD:
- Autistic: formally identified
- Autistic: self-identified
- Unsure or awaiting diagnosis
Other:
- Brain Injury
- PTSD
- ADHD
- OCD
- Tourette's Syndrome
- Dyslexia / Dyspraxia / Hyperlexia
There should be the option of selecting more than one response.
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I forgot to add parents and family members of people who are ND, as a choice. ^
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What about prosopragnosia?
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Add to "Other" as these are common comorbids
- Depression
- Bi-Polar
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I'd appreciate it if Asperger's stays an option. I was diagnosed with it, not ASD. & my medical files are still coded with that from the DSM4.
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Other comorbid or neurodivergent conditions:
- Mutism
- Agoraphobia
- Sensory Processing Disorder
- Synaesthesia
I think it's preferable to have a list of choices for "Other" instead of just a blank box. The choices might prompt members to identify a range of conditions they may have forgotten to add on their own.
At the end of the list there could still be a box for Other / Please Explain.
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Perhaps there could be a selection list for Autism Spectrum choices and a separate multiple choice for ND non-AS comorbidities? And any comorbidities that fall outside ND could go in the "About Yourself" section of the Profile.
Perhaps the Diagnosis field could include all of the pre-DSM-5 choices plus "Autism Spectrum" for folk with only a nonspecific DSM-5 diagnosis?
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Offered for Optional Discussion:
- Have Aspergers/ASD-1 - Diagnosed
- Have Aspergers/ASD-1 - Undiagnosed
- Not sure if I have it or not
- Family member with Aspergers/ASD-1
- Other autism spectrum disorder
- Neurotypical
- Neurodiverse - not on the spectrum
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Occasionally I will say "on the autism spectrum," but never just "on the spectrum."
After all, the word "spectrum" has many meanings, most of them totally unrelated to autism. IMO we have no right to commandeer that word as referring only to ourselves.
If it is an discussion in a space like this I figure adding the word “autism” is not necessary. I rarely use “spectrum” in another context.
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With reference to the link you'd posted earlier, of a similar request, I'd compiled the following list at that time.
It's probably not complete, and my apologies for not naming the source of some quotes from that thread.
I don't feel inclined to cross-reference with this newer thread - the reason will doubtless become clear as the list is viewed and the scale of the request understood.
![Wink :wink:](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
See: viewtopic.php?t=393666
========
- Autistic (diagnosed)
- Autistic (undiagnosed or self-diagnosed)
- Other neurodivergent
- Not sure if autistic or not
- Neurotypical
========
- Have Asperger's (diagnosed)
- Have autism (diagnosed)
- Self-diagnosed ASD
- Suspect I have an ASD
- Have some other neurological disorder/disability
- Neurotypical (no neurological disorders/disabilities)
========
ASD:
- Autistic: formally identified
- Autistic: self-identified
- Unsure or awaiting diagnosis
Other:
- Brain Injury
- PTSD
- ADHD
- OCD
- Tourette's Syndrome
- Dyslexia / Dyspraxia / Hyperlexia
There should be the option of selecting more than one response.
========
I forgot to add parents and family members of people who are ND, as a choice. ^
========
What about prosopragnosia?
========
Add to "Other" as these are common comorbids
- Depression
- Bi-Polar
========
I'd appreciate it if Asperger's stays an option. I was diagnosed with it, not ASD. & my medical files are still coded with that from the DSM4.
========
Other comorbid or neurodivergent conditions:
- Mutism
- Agoraphobia
- Sensory Processing Disorder
- Synaesthesia
I think it's preferable to have a list of choices for "Other" instead of just a blank box. The choices might prompt members to identify a range of conditions they may have forgotten to add on their own.
At the end of the list there could still be a box for Other / Please Explain.
========
Perhaps there could be a selection list for Autism Spectrum choices and a separate multiple choice for ND non-AS comorbidities? And any comorbidities that fall outside ND could go in the "About Yourself" section of the Profile.
Perhaps the Diagnosis field could include all of the pre-DSM-5 choices plus "Autism Spectrum" for folk with only a nonspecific DSM-5 diagnosis?
========
Offered for Optional Discussion:
- Have Aspergers/ASD-1 - Diagnosed
- Have Aspergers/ASD-1 - Undiagnosed
- Not sure if I have it or not
- Family member with Aspergers/ASD-1
- Other autism spectrum disorder
- Neurotypical
- Neurodiverse - not on the spectrum
What about undiagnosed brain injuries?
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
I feel like I might have one from trying to read this list or pick a solution.
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Occasionally I will say "on the autism spectrum," but never just "on the spectrum."
After all, the word "spectrum" has many meanings, most of them totally unrelated to autism. IMO we have no right to commandeer that word as referring only to ourselves.
I must have missed this post, thanks for pointing it out ASPartOfMe.
I think 'commandeer' is a bit strong. As you said, words often have different meanings, and they can also get redefined with each new generation, remember when 'bad' actually meant bad
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I feel like I might have one from trying to read this list or pick a solution.
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The simplest solution might just be a simple "describe it yourself" one-line text entry.
A pre-defined list is clearly not going to suit everyone, but the alternative should not be a 30-foot list containing every type, sub-type or variation known to humanity.
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1. We would need a really complicated page to cover all the choices Cornflake found!
2. Fill in the blank would probably solve the problem.
3. Would fill in the blank lead to inconsistency? Inconsistency could be a problem for anyone trying to use the diagnosis info. (I don't know if anyone else has used it but I did when I created a graph.)
4. Would a combination of solutions be possible? An updated multiple choice list that includes the major choices and better aligns with DSM-5 plus legacy DSM-4 diagnoses and also the WP landing page. But add a choice of "Other" which comes with a fill in the blank field, a blank field only available if you choose "Other".
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Personally, I'd prefer just the one-line blank field for a description - at least it would provide an opportunity to be precise..
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An always-available fill-in field that was separate from the multiple choice?
And it occurred to me that if the multiple choices were retained then perhaps they should be pick as many as apply. Some folk here could use that.
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Sorry...my mind wanders...
If diagnosis becomes just a blank field, there are probably folk who would need more than one line.
It occurs to me that replacing the current mechanism for self-reporting your diagnosis would likely invalidate all of the diagnosis info already entered. Existing members might not realize their information had been lost; long-gone members wouldn't care but anyone who is as fond of information as I am would hate to see data ditched and then never replaced.
The least disruptive thing might to do might be to do as little as possible while resolving the current deficiencies. Sticking to a mostly cosmetic modification could resolve those deficiencies without trashing all the data already in the system. For instance, this. Select-all-that-apply would be an improvement even if nothing else is changed—though it would also be an improvement with some mostly cosmetic change, like my suggestion.
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