Do people unironically want jobs?

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It was work from home 100% and I was using c#.
I learnt the language on the job as one language is pretty much like another. Especially two oop languages.

I didn't have anything strict happen, like being monitored or my time being tracked.

I put in the work and got good results. Shame I lost it due to mental health issues.(not caused by the job)

I enjoyed it because programming is enjoyable...plus the relaxed environment.

I think the work world - as well as ever-lengthening hours - are a kind of arms race where whoever works their employees harder and pays less beats the company who doesn't do those things, especially if all other things are equal.

People want to work not just for being able to pay bills but for status. A lot of people want any excuse they can find to treat anyone whose not them as utterly inferior and social rules in place where they can force that person into being a social foot stool. In that sense people work and try to get higher status jobs not only for having their own roof over their heads or to save up for the kids' college funds but also so they aren't being constantly dominated and ratioed by anyone who feels like they have the status-right to abuse them.

This is also part of why I worry about UBI. If most of us end up on UBI and everyone wants to not only be superior to everyone else but demands that other people acknowledge their 'by birth' superiority and supplicates to them, the social world is probably going to be very abusive and violent, even significantly more so than it is now. I'd also figure the prison population, even in the US where it's already huge, might double or triple.

How could UBI even be a thing.if nobody wanted to work to contribute to it?

Robots are a long time away from making any significant changes and what about people who can't be replaced by robots like carpenters and electricians? Should they get significantly more pay because they would be part of an increasingly small number of people who have to work?

A lot of jobs are fairly longish hours by nature too. Blue collar and weirdly banking and advanced medicals seem to be long weeks.

People generally want to work for several reasons besides the obvious money.

It gives people a sense of purpose and identity. That was generally true in the 70s also.

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I think work is like a vitamin - too little or too much becomes unpleasant and makes people ill, but the right amount is good.
Jobs on the other hand are rather more than just work. There are questions of who's calling the shots, who you're working for, whether or not the remuneration is fair, the working conditions, and whether or not the job traps you (long hours for barely enough pay to live on so that you're took exhausted and pushed for time to find a way to anything better). The work I did when I had a job wasn't the source of much displeasure to me, it was the other stuff that bothered me. Certain bosses sometimes turned what could have been a good experience into a bad one.

Interesting,

When I was a stay at home mom with no paid work I got very tired and deeply resented the cooking And housework, which I could never convince my Dh were completely separate from the job of “mom” which I loved!

Currently I am a teacher in a nonprofit program working for near poverty level wages. (One of our teachers is leaving this year because she can’t afford decent housing - she is renting a friend’s basement.) I would do most of my job for free if I had no need of currency. They pay me to: take attendance, keep records, grade assignments, write evaluations of students, end classes on time, stick to my subject, communicate with parents, enforce arbitrary rules and guidelines, and attend useless meetings. I am bad at some of those things because I do not like them.